Prophecy is hard to follow

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  • #784969
    Wakeup
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    Only Keras,journey And wakeup, can discus prophesies; because we have some understanding of bible prophesies.
    The rest here have not grown mature enough to go after solid meat. This is a fact that all should notice.
    Yet they like to join in the adults in conversation regarding strong meat.
    And showing off as if they understand what we are discussing.
    And even telling the adults how it should be interpreted. This I call pride, and pretence.

    They only love to discus the trivia things that have no edification to the truth.
    Just like babes playing with their toys; but know it all.
    They have all the knowledge of God And of His Son. No one can tell them anything anymore.
    They like to think that their cup is full with treasures from heaven.

    But the prophecy section appeared to be ignored; has gone stale; this is because they have not a clue about prophesies.
    This can be clearly seen. They have only understood 5% of the whole bible. And know it all, or act as if.
    Babes acting like fully matured adults. Babes wearing makeup, and high heels.
    Babes wearing jeans, wide belts, and rolled up sleeves; and ready to fight and get abusive.

    Looking like adults on the outside; but on the inside is hollow; spiritually empty.
    Speaking great colourful words in hypocrisy. Yes, I can see all this by the written scriptures.

    saiah 3:16 Moreover the LORD saith, Because the daughters of Zion are haughty, and walk with stretched forth necks and wanton eyes, walking and mincing as they go, and making a tinkling with their feet:
    Isaiah 3:17 Therefore the Lord will smite with a scab the crown of the head of the daughters of Zion, and the LORD will discover their secret parts.
    Isaiah 3:18 In that day the Lord will take away the bravery of their tinkling ornaments about their feet, and their cauls, and their round tires like the moon,
    Isaiah 3:19 The chains, and the bracelets, and the mufflers,
    Isaiah 3:20 The bonnets, and the ornaments of the legs, and the headbands, and the tablets, and the earrings,
    Isaiah 3:21 The rings, and nose jewels,
    Isaiah 3:22 The changeable suits of apparel, and the mantles, and the wimples, and the crisping pins,
    Isaiah 3:23 The glasses, and the fine linen, and the hoods, and the vails.
    Isaiah 3:24 And it shall come to pass, that instead of sweet smell there shall be stink; and instead of a girdle a rent; and instead of well set hair baldness; and instead of a stomacher a girding of sackcloth; and burning instead of beauty.
    Isaiah 3:25 Thy men shall fall by the sword, and thy mighty in the war.
    Isaiah 3:26 And her gates shall lament and mourn; and she being desolate shall sit upon the ground.

    wakeup.

    #784972
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,

    If you have yet to be reborn how can you claim to be an adult in understanding??

    #784974
    Camillia
    Participant

    Wakeup. you say you, keras and journey are the only three willing and able to discuss prophecy. Have not I and others also attempted to discuss prophecy? How can we discuss anything when the whole conversation is dominated by your personal views, without any attempts on your behalf to see things through another’s perspective. Just because you, keras and journey have agreement does not mean you are the only three here wishing to discuss prophecy. Perhaps your attitudes are putting people off joining in. Did you ever consider that?

    #784975
    Camillia
    Participant

    Belittling others as less than yourselves is not a very good trait Wakeup.

    #784976
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    lol wakeup.

    People do not discuss prophecy with you because you are biased to your view and no other view or additional information matters. Your mind seems made up already. But we are encouraged to watch and see the signs. If we already know it all now, then we wouldn’t need to do that.

    I like others I suspect like to discuss with people who are searching and objective or fair. What is your view BTW. Does it have a name or is it something you came up with yourself?

    If you have a topic dedicated to your view, link it from this topic and I will take a look and perhaps engage in conversation about it.

    I have seen many theories come and go with few still standing. I have seen all manner of people being called the Antichrist, from Gorbachev, Bush, Obama, Kissinger, the Pope, etc. And of all the stuff I have seen, 99.9% of it has not happened. So I am hardly going to subscribe to your theory. After all, if we would do that, then we should subscribe to all the others too, and doing that means we would be washed about by every wind of doctrine. Or should we just pick your one out and say, well Wakeup, he has the truth? But why you? lol come on, take a look outside your world and see from other people’s perspective. In your world you are right. But so is every other view out there. Very few are objective and worthy enough to engage in conversation with.

    I went to school with some people who are now full on Conspiracy Theorists. Everything is a conspiracy to them, and they all seem to be against Israel for some reason. We need to be aware that when we reject truth are not listening from God, then we become open to delusions. I love prophecy, but I only discuss with people who treat it fairly and are not too narrow minded or arrogant in their views.

    I am aware of many end-time views out there, so what is your one called?

    #785007
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Hi Camellia.

    I am inviting you and others to go into prophesies,75% of the bible is about prophesies.
    It is most important to know prophesies.

    Isaiah 33:6 And wisdom and knowledge shall be the stability of thy times, and strength of salvation: the fear of the LORD is his treasure.

    As the scripture says; it is the stability of thy times. and the strength of SALVATION.
    I am encouraging you and others to have strength and salvation.

    If you really feel being belittled that is your problem, not mine.
    Christians should never have that kind of feelings. For we are like little children.

    Heads up and seek, and find. Be humble with no anger in your heart. Jesus was humbled to the max.

    Shalom
    wakeup

    #785008
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Hi t8.

    Prophesies are there to be searched, not just read, and let things go past, and wait until it is too late
    to prepare yourself for what is coming.

    You say no one is prepared to have a discussion with me? Is it because I am always ready to answer with scriptures?
    just because many have tried to interpret prophesies and have fallen short, does not mean that we should give up
    on prophesies. This is not the right thing to do.
    I did not realise that encouraging others to have strength in salvation could cause, blood pressure up.

    It is most important to know prophesies.

    Isaiah 33:6 And wisdom and knowledge shall be the stability of thy times, and strength of salvation: the fear of the LORD is his treasure

    You just call it my theory without any proof . Anything I explain can be called my theory, without any true discussions.
    using scriptures.
    To call all explanations just a personal theory is not proof. It is proving guilty without any evidence. I call it unfair judgement. Unrighteous judgement.

    Revelation 22:6 And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done.

    God is showing us; and we are just ignoring it because of others have failed? your salvation does not depend on others.

    Revelation 22:7 Behold, I come quickly:
    blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book.

    Not so blessed is he that ignore the sayings of the prophecy of this book.

    Shalom.
    wakeup.

    #785013
    Camillia
    Participant

    I am inviting you and others to go into prophesies,75% of the bible is about prophesies.
    It is most important to know prophesies.

    Isaiah 33:6 And wisdom and knowledge shall be the stability of thy times, and strength of salvation: the fear of the LORD is his treasure.

    As the scripture says; it is the stability of thy times. and the strength of SALVATION.
    I am encouraging you and others to have strength and salvation.

    I have been trying to. Most of my posts have been in the prophecy section.

    If you really feel being belittled that is your problem, not mine.
    Christians should never have that kind of feelings. For we are like little children.

    Saying this:

    Only Keras,journey And wakeup, can discus prophesies; because we have some understanding of bible prophesies.
    The rest here have not grown mature enough to go after solid meat. This is a fact that all should notice.
    Yet they like to join in the adults in conversation regarding strong meat.
    And showing off as if they understand what we are discussing.
    And even telling the adults how it should be interpreted. This I call pride, and pretence.

    Is arrogant.
    You are disrespecting anyone else here who happens to be, or may be, interested in prophecy by saying that only you and Keras and Journey are adult enough to discuss prophecy because only you (according to yourselves) have understanding. And Keras: Really? He ran away from my questions.

    Wakeup, we each already know what we think,feel and believe. We learn nothing new, from hearing our own voice.

    Heads up and seek, and find. Be humble with no anger in your heart. Jesus was humbled to the max.

    I want to learn about Israel, and why Christians speak about it so much because I don’t look to some physical place, my heart is in heaven (my family are Jewish though). Explain that to me somebody, please.

    #785015
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Wakeup, I will engage you in discussion if you tell me the name of your theory so I can look it up and see what it entails.

    If you have already got a topic dedicated to it, then point me there instead.

    Cheers.

    I like to keep things tidy. I started an Islamic Beast theory in a topic and all conversation about that is there and we have discussed this.

    How about something similar for your theory?

    Start by giving its name. If you do not have one because it is your theory, then outline it in your first post.

    #785017
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Hi t8.

    The name would be All prophesies old and new, for they belong together.
    We can start with the book of revelation, if you like

    wakeup.

    #785021
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Hi camellia.

    You want to know about isreal? Go to prophesies, old and new.
    You can always join in our dicsussions re’ prophesies, and ask questions, and compere prophesies with prophesies.
    Without saying it is my opinion, or I am biased before checking it out.
    You can not just listen to your own voice, and consider the scriptures as of no use.
    The scriptures are there to seek.

    Isaiah 33:6 And wisdom and knowledge shall be the stability of thy times, and strength of salvation: the fear of the LORD is his treasure. (I have noticed of no fear of the Lord, because of many scriptures ignored).
    I and t8 will start discussing prophesies soon, hope you will join.[/color]

    wakeup.

    #785023
    terraricca
    Participant

    wakeup

    you never answered my question for now about two years ;

    here it is again; what does an apostate ,rebel ,that has rejected Jehovah God and now became a peoples nation (democracy)

    has no intention to become a theocracy ; and was totally rejected as per scriptures ;GOT TO DO IN PROPHECY ?in modern day?

    #785025
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Terra.

    Can you quote the scripture?

    wakeup.

    #785026
    terraricca
    Participant

    70 ad ,IS THE WRATH OF GOD ,

    IF YOU DENY ALL THE SCRIPTURES I HAVE TOLD AND GIVEN YOU ? AND SO ALWAYS ASK FOR THE SAME THING CONTINUOUSLY,

    #785029
    kerwin
    Participant

    Wakeup,

    I do not find your view rational.  I find God rational.

    #785030
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,

    Your vainglorious boasting about your abilities and knowledge does you no credit.

    #785049
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Terra.

    I agree that 70ad is the wrath of God upon His people.
    Since then God’s church have been corrupted by the god of this world(satan).
    The Roman church was set up; and from then on all her daughters were born; her off shoots.
    From then on, there is only desolation until the consummation.
    Desolation has peaked, the falling away is coming.(the apostasy),then the son of perdition will be revealed.
    Then the coming.

    wakeup.

    #785066
    terraricca
    Participant

    wup

    i have no more time to discuss this with you ,i have explain what i believe in scriptures about those things ,you don’t seem to care for it ;that’s fine you have your own view as i can see ,

    so have a nice trip on the clouds

    #785069
    keras
    Participant

    I do not post often on this forum, because the beliefs and attitudes of most of the posters here are too way out and  say: ‘I’m right and you’re wrong’.

    I have given my website – http://www.logostelos.info  for all who want to read free articles on Bible prophecy. I write out the passages for easy reading and use other scriptures to help explain what is prophesied.

    I do not find prophecy ‘hard to follow’, the great plan of God for His people is plain for anyone who makes the effort to read all of what is given. The essential requirement is to forget any teachings of man and just take the truth of scripture; literally in most cases.

    What is evident is that very soon God will take action to sort out the mess mankind has made on earth. Only then will the ‘eyes that are blind’ be opened and the confused gain understanding’. Isaiah 29:24

    If anyone has a specific question, I am happy to do my best to answer it, supporting my answer with scripture.

    #785070
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Terra.

    That was my take. Now you seem not to agree; fine.
    Now what is your take?

    wakeup.

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