Proof jesus is god from paul's mouth?

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 03 2009,16:22)
    Hi WJ,
    So why do you say the Son of God is also God?


    NH

    Was Moses the “Only Son of God”? Why do you say your Father is also “Human”?

    WJ

    #144100
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WJ,
    Do you not know the beloved Son of God?
    God is well pleased with him.

    #144104
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WJ,
    If God publically declared Jesus to be His son several times why do you say he is rather God?
    Are you stronger than God?

    #144107

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 03 2009,16:32)
    Hi WJ,
    Do you not know the beloved Son of God?
    God is well pleased with him.


    NH

    Yes I know him and look for him like the Apostle Paul does…

    while we wait for the blessed hope–the glorious appearing of “our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ, Titus 2:13

    How about you?

    WJ

    #144108
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WJ,
    So aligning with God's voice has never been a worry?

    #144109

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 03 2009,16:38)
    Hi WJ,
    If God publically declared Jesus to be His son several times why do you say he is rather God?
    Are you stronger than God?


    Hi NH

    If your Father publically declares you to be his Son is he declaring that you are not human?

    God is a title NH and doesn't describe Identity! For we know that men make for themselves “false gods” which are not gods at all!

    Now what do you do with the scriptures that declare Jesus is God?

    Oh, thats right you have some white out!

    WJ

    #144110

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 03 2009,16:48)
    Hi WJ,
    So aligning with God's voice has never been a worry?


    NH

    So aligning ones self with the scriptures is not aligning with his voice?

    Or is it just what scriptures we choose?

    WJ

    #144111
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WJ,

    “This is my son in whom I am well pleased “seems clear.

    Listen to him

    #144112

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 03 2009,16:52)
    Hi WJ,

    “This is my son in whom I am well pleased “seems clear.

    Listen to him


    NH

    while we wait for the blessed hope–the glorious appearing of “our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ, Titus 2:13

    And that is not clear?

    WJ

    #144113
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WJ,
    I suppose when you earn a living doing it saying other things seems OK to you?

    #144114

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 03 2009,16:53)
    Hi WJ,
    I suppose when you earn a living doing it saying other things seems OK to you?


    NH

    And I suppose when you reject scriptures to you that is alright!

    #144115
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WJ,
    Do you have trouble understanding the swords of God that he spoke about Jesus
    ” This is my son”?
    Or is it convenient to find other verses you think contradict him for the sake of your job?

    #144116

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 03 2009,17:05)
    Hi WJ,
    Do you have trouble understanding the swords of God that he spoke about Jesus
    ” This is my son”?
    Or is it convenient to find other verses you think contradict him for the sake of your job?


    NH

    I do not have any contradictions. Apparently you do!

    Why do you only accept some scriptures and not all?

    If you do not accept all the scriptures then what right do you have to condemn others for not agreeing with you and your theology?

    WJ

    #144124
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WJ,
    So you agree with God that Jesus is His Son?
    Why do you teach a trinity god then?

    #144136
    KangarooJack
    Participant

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 04 2009,07:50)
    Jodi

    Quote (Jodi Lee @ Sep. 03 2009,13:03)

    WOW, you just don't get it?

    Exodus 7:1 So the Lord said to Moses: “See, I have made you as God to Pharaoh, and Aaron your brother shall be your prophet.

    YHWH made Moses a god by giving Moses His POWERS!


    No, you just don’t get it. Moses was “a god” to Pharaoh and that is it!

    Wow, and you think that Moses had “Powers”? Are you the same one that says that “Jesus’ didn’t do anything on his own? Where is the scripture that says “Moses powers” opened the Red Sea? No Moses was a man like you and I and was simply a servant called by YHWH to carry out his will! I see where you guys are coming from now, you see Moses just like Pharaoh did, as some sort of “a god”!

    Polytheism!

    Quote (Jodi Lee @ Sep. 03 2009,13:03)
    WJ, was the Pharaoh believing in a FALSE mighty one,


    Yep, because Moses wasn’t “a god” at all, and YHWH nor any of his followers said he was, did they? But in your mind and in the mind of Pharaoh apparently he was!

    Quote (Jodi Lee @ Sep. 03 2009,13:03)
    did Moses NOT perform signs and wonders?


    Nope, YHWH performed them, Moses was the servant of YHWH!

    Quote (Jodi Lee @ Sep. 03 2009,13:03)
    Do the scriptures lie, or do you just fail to understand the word god?


    I might ask you the same thing?

    What part of YHWH’s words do you not believe?

    “Now concerning everything which I have said to you, be on your guard; and “DO NOT MENTION THE NAME OF OTHER GODS, NOR LET THEM BE HEARD FROM YOUR MOUTH. Exod 23:13

    WJ


    TO KEITH:

    Keith,
    I can't believe this! These people actually believe that Moses was greater than Jesus. Not only this, but they reject new testament revelation.

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    For this One [Jesus] has been counted worthy of more glory than Moses, inasmuch as He who built the house has more honor than the house. 4 For every house is built by someone, but He who built all things is God.(Hberews 3:3-4)


    It says that Jesus is “counted worthy” of more glory than Moses. If Jodi can allow Moses to be her God then why not Jesus too? ???

    thinker

    #144137
    KangarooJack
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 04 2009,08:22)
    Hi WJ,
    So why do you say the Son of God is also God?


    While you're at it Nick ask the same thing of Jodi in reference to Moses. Don't discriminate.

    thinker

    #144138
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi TT,
    Why not answer?

    #144139
    KangarooJack
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 04 2009,09:05)
    Hi WJ,
    Do you have trouble understanding the swords of God that he spoke about Jesus
    ” This is my son”?
    Or is it convenient to find other verses you think contradict him for the sake of your job?


    Jesus was God's Son by decree (Psalm 2; Romans 1:1-3). It has no reference to His supposed inferiority but rather His OFFICE.

    thinker

    #144140
    KangarooJack
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 04 2009,10:42)
    Hi TT,
    Why not answer?


    So you have no problem with Jodi's view that Moses was God but the thought of Jesus being God keeps you awake at night? ???

    thinker

    #144141
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi TT,
    Where does Jodi say that?

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