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Hi.
Iv read all the earliest church writtings, anti nicene, I found it interesting to see what they first believed , I still have them all printed out.
So from it (and theres alot of reading) I found out that,
There is one God almighty, and one Jesus.
One-ness was wrong
Believing Jesus was God Almighty was wrong.
etc.Also what Islam would say or Ebionites, Nazerenes was wrong
With all the ideas today, its better to go back to the earliest thoughts before things started to change.
I dont know who else here has studied them, the Orthodox church holds the writings close with the scriptures but they also read on past nicene where things changed.
I think later I'l get more info from them.
Philo is a Jew and John is a Jew and thus the roots of their philosophies are the same even though each individual had a different variation of that philosophy. I hold John's to be true as he preaches the true message of the New Covenant while Philo sought to bring understanding of the Jewish traditions to those who needed their knowledge of it reinforced or were being introduced to it.
If you wish to know Jewish traditions then Philo will give you one viewpoint but if you wish to enter the new Covenant John is one of those with the keys.
Quote (kejonn @ Aug. 03 2007,15:11) Mrs.IM,
Yes, scripture is always our first refuge but sometimes it helps to look to other sources to help gain an understanding of obscure passages. John 1 is unique in all of the Bible, so it stands apart and has many people speculating on it. But if you read the work of Philo, much of what was written in the Gospel of John becomes uncannily clearer. About Philo, from WikipediaPhilo (20 BC – 50 AD), known also as Philo of Alexandria and as Philo Judaeus And as Yedidia, was a Hellenized Jewish philosopher born in Alexandria, Egypt.
Philo used allegory to fuse and harmonize Greek philosophy and Judaism. His method followed the practices of both Jewish exegesis and Stoic philosophy. His work was not widely accepted. “The sophists of literalness,” as he calls them, “opened their eyes superciliously” when he explained to them the marvels of his exegesis. Philo's works were enthusiastically received by the early Christians, some of whom saw in him a cryptic Christian. His concept of the Logos as God's creative principle apparently influenced early Christology. To him Logos was God's “blueprint for the world”, a governing plan.
As you can see, Philo died before the first canonized book of the NT was said to be written. So his concept of Logos (Word) in relation to the God of Israel was developed well ahead of the Gospel of John. There is no telling if the writer of GofJ was influenced by Philo's work or if God inspired both to use the same concept of Logos. But one thing is certain: the other 3 Gospels make no mention of Logos.
Here is an interesting note:
Every time the NT refers to “words” or “things” it is translating from either the word: “rhema” or “logos”!
The word rhema is more of a discussion and the word “logos” is an expressed word!
The word logos is used thousands of times in the new testament! Look up “things” in strongs exhaustive concordance. God bless your studies, TK
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