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Quote (Wakeup @ June 21 2012,21:24) Quote (Ed J @ June 14 2012,12:11) Quote (Wakeup @ June 14 2012,08:22) Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 13 2012,07:33) Hi WU,
And the King will return and draw to himself all who are in him.
Nick.This is true.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,“And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.” (John 12:32)
This verse is true, are you suggesting it isn't true until some fictitious point in the future?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.I know what you are trying to show me,It does look contradictory doesnt it.
We must learn to discern the scriptures; not just read it.The scriptures also says that many will be cast into the lake of fire. So this means that not ALL will be saved.
Jesus words; WILL —DRAW— ALL MEN UNTO ME.(john 12:32.) draw means exactly what it says.(draw=pull=drag).
Many are called but a few chosen.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup, this appears to look contradictory as well…1 Cor 3:14-15 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Wakeup @ June 22 2012,04:24) Quote (Ed J @ June 14 2012,12:11) Quote (Wakeup @ June 14 2012,08:22) Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 13 2012,07:33) Hi WU,
And the King will return and draw to himself all who are in him.
Nick.This is true.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,“And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.” (John 12:32)
This verse is true, are you suggesting it isn't true until some fictitious point in the future?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.I know what you are trying to show me,It does look contradictory doesnt it.
We must learn to discern the scriptures; not just read it.The scriptures also says that many will be cast into the lake of fire. So this means that not ALL will be saved.
Jesus words; WILL —DRAW— ALL MEN UNTO ME.(john 12:32.) draw means exactly what it says.(draw=pull=drag).
Many are called but a few chosen.
wakeup.
wuQuote Jesus words; WILL —DRAW— ALL MEN UNTO ME.(john 12:32.) draw means exactly what it says.(draw=pull=drag). Many are called but a few chosen.
so many will be draw but FEW will be chosen why is that
?Quote (Ed J @ June 22 2012,16:35) Quote (Wakeup @ June 21 2012,21:24) Quote (Ed J @ June 14 2012,12:11) Quote (Wakeup @ June 14 2012,08:22) Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 13 2012,07:33) Hi WU,
And the King will return and draw to himself all who are in him.
Nick.This is true.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,“And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.” (John 12:32)
This verse is true, are you suggesting it isn't true until some fictitious point in the future?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.I know what you are trying to show me,It does look contradictory doesnt it.
We must learn to discern the scriptures; not just read it.The scriptures also says that many will be cast into the lake of fire. So this means that not ALL will be saved.
Jesus words; WILL —DRAW— ALL MEN UNTO ME.(john 12:32.) draw means exactly what it says.(draw=pull=drag).
Many are called but a few chosen.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup, this appears to look contradictory as well…1 Cor 3:14-15 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDj.It is a bit hard to understand what paul is trying to say here,but basically what he is saying is; that we have only one foundation to build on and that is jesus christ.
If our work(houshold included) is build on christ and suffer loss,we suffer material loss. but we will be saved.
But if our works(household) abide, this is a reward.
This is a good thing.
Every mans work will be revealed,what sort it is.It will be revealed by fire.In the day of judgement,all mans work will be revealed.Our household is build on gold ,silver and wood(material),but the foundation is still christ.
This is what I understand.wakeup.
Hi WU,
We who are in Christ must produce profit for our master's investment.
These works are only useful to Him when done by being led by the Spirit.
All other works will be burnt and we may be singed by that fire, but not lost.Quote (terraricca @ June 22 2012,16:39) Quote (Wakeup @ June 22 2012,04:24) Quote (Ed J @ June 14 2012,12:11) Quote (Wakeup @ June 14 2012,08:22) Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 13 2012,07:33) Hi WU,
And the King will return and draw to himself all who are in him.
Nick.This is true.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,“And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.” (John 12:32)
This verse is true, are you suggesting it isn't true until some fictitious point in the future?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.I know what you are trying to show me,It does look contradictory doesnt it.
We must learn to discern the scriptures; not just read it.The scriptures also says that many will be cast into the lake of fire. So this means that not ALL will be saved.
Jesus words; WILL —DRAW— ALL MEN UNTO ME.(john 12:32.) draw means exactly what it says.(draw=pull=drag).
Many are called but a few chosen.
wakeup.
wuQuote Jesus words; WILL —DRAW— ALL MEN UNTO ME.(john 12:32.) draw means exactly what it says.(draw=pull=drag). Many are called but a few chosen.
so many will be draw but FEW will be chosen why is that
?
Terra.Because only the few are genuine true worshippers that follow the lamb wheresoever he goes.REv.14:4.
wakeup.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 24 2012,08:20) Hi Ed,
All the rudiments will be burned up.
Nick.2Pet.3:10. But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night:(to the sleepers and ignorant only),in which the heavens shall pass away with GREAT NOICE,and the elements(the sun,planets) shall melt with fervent heat; THE EARTH ALSO AND THE WORKS that are therein(cities etc.)shall be burned up.
This is the renewing of the earth; the cleansing of all what mankind has created,under the earth,under the sea.
the sun and planets have been poluted by man because of the worshipping.All this will happen after gog and his followers has been destroyed; not at the coming.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ June 24 2012,06:05) Quote (terraricca @ June 22 2012,16:39) Quote (Wakeup @ June 22 2012,04:24) Quote (Ed J @ June 14 2012,12:11) Quote (Wakeup @ June 14 2012,08:22) Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 13 2012,07:33) Hi WU,
And the King will return and draw to himself all who are in him.
Nick.This is true.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,“And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.” (John 12:32)
This verse is true, are you suggesting it isn't true until some fictitious point in the future?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.I know what you are trying to show me,It does look contradictory doesnt it.
We must learn to discern the scriptures; not just read it.The scriptures also says that many will be cast into the lake of fire. So this means that not ALL will be saved.
Jesus words; WILL —DRAW— ALL MEN UNTO ME.(john 12:32.) draw means exactly what it says.(draw=pull=drag).
Many are called but a few chosen.
wakeup.
wuQuote Jesus words; WILL —DRAW— ALL MEN UNTO ME.(john 12:32.) draw means exactly what it says.(draw=pull=drag). Many are called but a few chosen.
so many will be draw but FEW will be chosen why is that
?
Terra.Because only the few are genuine true worshippers that follow the lamb wheresoever he goes.REv.14:4.
wakeup.
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Quote (Ed J @ June 02 2014,18:19) For Wakeup
Whom God has drawn HE also will sanctify.Many are called, and many also set aside to go through a test.
And many will also fail the test. For straight and NARROW is the path to salvation.The broad way leads to death.wakeup.
Hi WU,
Yes the way is repentance, rebirth, daily submission to the Lord, forgiving, feeding on scripture to transform the mind, asking , seeking, knocking and walking in the Spirit.
We are given the grace and ability to become sons of GodQuote (Nick Hassan @ June 04 2014,00:26) Hi WU,
Yes the way is repentance, rebirth, daily submission to the Lord, forgiving, feeding on scripture to transform the mind, asking , seeking, knocking and walking in the Spirit.
We are given the grace and ability to become sons of God
Nicklove for God will take care of all the other things
Quote (Wakeup @ June 02 2014,23:57) Quote (Ed J @ June 02 2014,18:19) For Wakeup
Whom God has drawn HE also will sanctify.Many are called, and many also set aside to go through a test.
And many will also fail the test. For straight and NARROW is the path to salvation.The broad way leads to death.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,You place too much significance on your time here.
God's Kingdom has been here a long time before you came along.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi Nick,
Jesus second coming was at Pentecost in spirit form – thus the arrival of God's Kingdom.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ June 04 2014,18:33) Hi Nick, Jesus second coming was at Pentecost in spirit form – thus the arrival of God's Kingdom.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Read Hebrews 9:28 and John 14:23
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