Pentecost was jesus second coming

[Elizabeth]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 19 2010,15:21)

Hi Georg, So no more opinions based on one scripture if you want to be taken seriously. One might suggest something but at least two to give that idea substance.

Nick

Show me were I have NOT done that.

Georg

[Ed J]

Quote (Elizabeth @ Mar. 19 2010,14:32)

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 18 2010,15:03) Hi Georg, Is not your interpretation of facts, 'your opinion'? Ed J Ed How can an interpretation of FACTS be an opinion? Is the Bible God's opinion? Georg

Hi Georg,

Here is either David's interpretation of (Rev.6:2) the Facts or that of his visible organization (The JW's).
He's referring his interpretation of the facts concerning the rider of white horse in Rev.6:2.

Quote (david @ Feb. 22 2010,17:55)

As well, looking at the four horseman, I believe that the one on the white horse is Jesus, who conquers and goes forward to carry on war. (rev 6) He begins by warring against Satan and removing him from heaven.  Woe for the earth. (Rev 12)  These woes are shown in the horses that follow: war, death, etc.  This is of course the result of Satan being angry, here on earth, knowing he has a “short period of time.” When Christ came into kingly power, the “last days” of this world began.  For their to be last days, there would have to be a period of time.  In kingly power, the first thing Jesus did was remove Satan from heaven. Jesus foretold what would take place during these last days, this “conclusion of the world.” (mat 24) One thing he said would be done was the preaching of this good news.  This would of course take time. The reason people can't see the word parousia as it is, is because people want to see Jesus as a man.  But he is a powerful spirit, a king of kings.  His presense is discernable to his followers who are waiting for him.  Just as it was his followers who were the only ones who “saw” him go, it was his followers who were aware of his return.   As I said, first thing he did was throw satan to the earth.  What followed was world war, famine like never before, etc.   Today, many scoff:

Is their interpretation of Facts an opinion?

The interpretation of the Facts tell me all the rider's in Rev.6:2-8 represent Lucifer! The chariots in Zech.6:2-8 as well!
My interpretation of the Facts is that 'the horseman' represent Lucifer!. Is my interpretation of the Facts an opinion?
Your interpretation is: the rider in Rev.6:2 is the spirit of 'antichrist'. Is your interpretation of the Facts an opinion?

So our interpenetration of the Facts (concerning Rev.6:2) are similar, while David's are dissimilar.

So the question remains: is the interpretation of Facts an opinion? The point is made!
Until conclusively proven correct, the consensus would dictate they are all “opinions”!

God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Bump for Georg

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
Pentecost was the release of the Spirit of God and Christ among believers.

Jesus himself has not yet returned the way he was seen to leave[Acts1].

[Elizabeth]

Ed

Why are you telling me what david said; you were talking about my interpretation of facts, and I ask you,”is the Bible God's opinion?” remember?
Your interpretation of Rev. 6:2-8 are totally wrong. These horsemen do not appear one at a time, or at different times; they follow one after the other.
When Jesus begins to rule, Rev. 19:11, he will smite the earth with a double edged sword; that is symbolic for the word of God, no blood shed.
This rider on the white horse is the impostor, the Antichrist, also in Rev. 13:11. He has not brought us peace, in fact he is responsible for much of the blood shedding. Did he not sponsor and pay for the Crusades? did he not persecute, torture, and execute all who would not worship him? He has brought us war, the “RED” horse. And what is it that war brings when men have to go and fight wars? shortage of food; the “BLACK” horse. And what does shortage of food bring? sickness, disease, and death; the “PALE” horse.
You are also forgetting, Lucifer was his name before he rebelled, since then his name is Satan; the only way you can come close to saying these four horsemen “represent” Satan is, they do what Satan has set out to do, destroy mankind.
I don't see were you can say that your opinion come even close to my interpretation.
If you say the Bible are facts, and not God's opinion, then you're right; but what you have given us so far, what the scriptures mean; let just say, NO CIGAR.

Georg

[NickHassan]

Hi Georg,
So these are more of your opinions?

[Ed J]

Quote (Elizabeth @ Mar. 22 2010,15:05)

Ed When Jesus begins to rule, Rev. 19:11, he will smite the earth with a double edged sword; that is symbolic for the word of God, no blood shed. Georg

Hi Georg,

Jesus: 'you say' is “The Word” and also He smites with “The Word”?
Are you saying Jesus smites with himself? Your logic does not add up?
Your interpretation of Facts is merely 'your opinion'; nothing provable!

The rider in Rev.19:11 is the “HolySpirit”; “The Word” of God! (Re.19:16)
Why do I say this: it's the correct interpretation, because of Psalm 110:1-2…

Psalm 110:1-21 The LORD(יהוה YÄ-hä-vā) said unto my Lord(יהשוע YÄ-shü-ă),
                       Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
                       The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength(HolySpirit) out of Zion:
                       rule thou(HolySpirit) in the midst of thine enemies.

The rider (of Rev.19:11-16) is the rod of Jesus strength: The “HOLYSPIRIT”!
Jesus is sitting (in essence) doing nothing, while the “HolySpirit” is kicking dragon!

Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 22 2010,15:40)

Quote (Elizabeth @ Mar. 22 2010,15:05) Ed When Jesus begins to rule, Rev. 19:11, he will smite the earth with a double edged sword; that is symbolic for the word of God, no blood shed. Georg Hi Georg, Jesus: 'you say' is “The Word” and also He smites with “The Word”? Are you saying Jesus smites with himself? Your logic does not add up? Your interpretation of Facts is merely 'your opinion'; nothing provable! The rider in Rev.19:11 is the “HolySpirit”; “The Word” of God! (Re.19:16) Why do I say this: it's the correct interpretation, because of Psalm 110:1-2… Psalm 110:1-21 The LORD(יהוה YÄ-hä-vā) said unto my Lord(יהשוע YÄ-shü-ă),                        Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.                        The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength(HolySpirit) out of Zion:                        rule thou(HolySpirit) in the midst of thine enemies. The rider (of Rev.19:11-16) is the rod of Jesus strength: The “HOLYSPIRIT”! Jesus is sitting (in essence) doing nothing, while the “HolySpirit” is kicking dragon! Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17) יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

edj

i don't know why you willingly change the word for 'THE WORD'

word of God means the bible ,you know that but THE WORD “this is Christ,

so your comment on Georg does not stand.

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 22 2010,15:46)

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 22 2010,15:40) Quote (Elizabeth @ Mar. 22 2010,15:05) Ed When Jesus begins to rule, Rev. 19:11, he will smite the earth with a double edged sword; that is symbolic for the word of God, no blood shed. Georg Hi Georg, Jesus: 'you say' is “The Word” and also He smites with “The Word”? Are you saying Jesus smites with himself? Your logic does not add up? Your interpretation of Facts is merely 'your opinion'; nothing provable! The rider in Rev.19:11 is the “HolySpirit”; “The Word” of God! (Re.19:16) Why do I say this: it's the correct interpretation, because of Psalm 110:1-2… Psalm 110:1-21 The LORD(יהוה YÄ-hä-vā) said unto my Lord(יהשוע YÄ-shü-ă),                        Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.                        The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength(HolySpirit) out of Zion:                        rule thou(HolySpirit) in the midst of thine enemies. The rider (of Rev.19:11-16) is the rod of Jesus strength: The “HOLYSPIRIT”! Jesus is sitting (in essence) doing nothing, while the “HolySpirit” is kicking dragon! Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17) יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj i don't know why you willingly change the word for 'THE WORD' word of God means the bible ,you know that but THE WORD “this is Christ, so your comment on Georg does not stand.

Hi Terraricca,

“The Word” in John 1:1 is also “The Word” in Rev.19:13: [ο λογος] Hō Lōgôs.

“The Word” is the HolySpirit, not Jesus; religion has been lying to you!
The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate except
distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit.

My comment is “Bible Truth” and does indeed stand as TRUTH!
2Peter 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man:
but holy men of God spake as they were moved(inspired) by the HolySpirit.
The “HolySpirit” is responsable for writing “The Bible”=63; “The Word” of “YHVH”=63!

Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 22 2010,16:11)

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 22 2010,15:46) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 22 2010,15:40) Quote (Elizabeth @ Mar. 22 2010,15:05) Ed When Jesus begins to rule, Rev. 19:11, he will smite the earth with a double edged sword; that is symbolic for the word of God, no blood shed. Georg Hi Georg, Jesus: 'you say' is “The Word” and also He smites with “The Word”? Are you saying Jesus smites with himself? Your logic does not add up? Your interpretation of Facts is merely 'your opinion'; nothing provable! The rider in Rev.19:11 is the “HolySpirit”; “The Word” of God! (Re.19:16) Why do I say this: it's the correct interpretation, because of Psalm 110:1-2… Psalm 110:1-21 The LORD(יהוה YÄ-hä-vā) said unto my Lord(יהשוע YÄ-shü-ă),                        Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.                        The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength(HolySpirit) out of Zion:                        rule thou(HolySpirit) in the midst of thine enemies. The rider (of Rev.19:11-16) is the rod of Jesus strength: The “HOLYSPIRIT”! Jesus is sitting (in essence) doing nothing, while the “HolySpirit” is kicking dragon! Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17) יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj i don't know why you willingly change the word for 'THE WORD' word of God means the bible ,you know that but THE WORD “this is Christ, so your comment on Georg does not stand. Hi Terraricca, “The Word” in John 1:1 is also “The Word” in Rev.19:13: [ο λογος] Hō Lōgôs. “The Word” is the HolySpirit, not Jesus; religion has been lying to you! The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate except distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit. My comment is “Bible Truth” and does indeed stand as TRUTH! 2Peter 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved(inspired) by the HolySpirit. The “HolySpirit” is responsable for writing “The Bible”=63; “The Word” of “YHVH”=63! Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17) יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

edj

you right in both verses it is th WORD =Jesus
not the Holy spirit.

There is no mback up to your understanding in the scriptures that i know,or seen.

if you have any show me ,if you send me to another site or one of your books, no good

i am a simple men ,a few scriptures will do ,i do reed.

[Elizabeth]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 22 2010,15:40)

is not the Holy Spirit of God, kit is Jes Quote (Elizabeth @ Mar. 22 2010,15:05) Ed When Jesus begins to rule, Rev. 19:11, he will smite the earth with a double edged sword; that is symbolic for the word of God, no blood shed. Georg Hi Georg, Jesus: 'you say' is “The Word” and also He smites with “The Word”? Are you saying Jesus smites with himself? Your logic does not add up? Your interpretation of Facts is merely 'your opinion'; nothing provable! The rider in Rev.19:11 is the “HolySpirit”; “The Word” of God! (Re.19:16) Why do I say this: it's the correct interpretation, because of Psalm 110:1-2… Psalm 110:1-21 The LORD(יהוה YÄ-hä-vā) said unto my Lord(יהשוע YÄ-shü-ă),                        Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.                        The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength(HolySpirit) out of Zion:                        rule thou(HolySpirit) in the midst of thine enemies. The rider (of Rev.19:11-16) is the rod of Jesus strength: The “HOLYSPIRIT”! Jesus is sitting (in essence) doing nothing, while the “HolySpirit” is kicking dragon! Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17) יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

I just have to say something here.
Ed!  Rev, 19:13  is not the Holy Spirit of God it is Jesus the Word.  Which goes along with John 1:1 and in verse 14 He became flesh and dwelt among us.  Not the Holy Spirit.  Such nonsense.  I just can't believe that>>>>>>>
Rev. 19:16 Says this
“And on His robe and on His thigh a name is written:
KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.  That is Jesus and not God's Holy Spirit.  I don't know much of History, but I do know that one.  King of Kings and Lord of Lords.  Everybody knows that……..except you?  Be for real…You are such a confused dud,  
   
Irene

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 22 2010,16:38)

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 22 2010,16:11) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 22 2010,15:46) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 22 2010,15:40) Quote (Elizabeth @ Mar. 22 2010,15:05) Ed When Jesus begins to rule, Rev. 19:11, he will smite the earth with a double edged sword; that is symbolic for the word of God, no blood shed. Georg Hi Georg, Jesus: 'you say' is “The Word” and also He smites with “The Word”? Are you saying Jesus smites with himself? Your logic does not add up? Your interpretation of Facts is merely 'your opinion'; nothing provable! The rider in Rev.19:11 is the “HolySpirit”; “The Word” of God! (Re.19:16) Why do I say this: it's the correct interpretation, because of Psalm 110:1-2… Psalm 110:1-21 The LORD(יהוה YÄ-hä-vā) said unto my Lord(יהשוע YÄ-shü-ă),                        Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.                        The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength(HolySpirit) out of Zion:                        rule thou(HolySpirit) in the midst of thine enemies. The rider (of Rev.19:11-16) is the rod of Jesus strength: The “HOLYSPIRIT”! Jesus is sitting (in essence) doing nothing, while the “HolySpirit” is kicking dragon! Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17) יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj i don't know why you willingly change the word for 'THE WORD' word of God means the bible ,you know that but THE WORD “this is Christ, so your comment on Georg does not stand. Hi Terraricca, “The Word” in John 1:1 is also “The Word” in Rev.19:13: [ο λογος] Hō Lōgôs. “The Word” is the HolySpirit, not Jesus; religion has been lying to you! The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate except distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit. My comment is “Bible Truth” and does indeed stand as TRUTH! 2Peter 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved(inspired) by the HolySpirit. The “HolySpirit” is responsable for writing “The Bible”=63; “The Word” of “YHVH”=63! Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17) יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj you right in both verses it is th WORD  =Jesus not the Holy spirit. There is no mback up to your understanding in the scriptures that i know,or seen. if you have any show me ,if you send me to another site or one of your books, no good i am a simple men ,a few scriptures will do ,i do reed.

Hi T

You must blatantly disregard ALL these verses to hold onto the false belief that you hold dear…

Luke 8:11 “The seed” is “the word“ of God.
Hebrews 7:28 For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but
the word(TheSeed “IS” HolySpirit) of the oath, which was since the law,
maketh the Son(Jesus Christ), who is consecrated for evermore.

Luke 8:11 Now the parable is this: The Seed is The Word of God.
Luke 8:15 But that on the good ground are they, which in an honest and good heart,
               having heard The Word, keep it, and bring forth fruit with patience.
Rom.9:8 …children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: (“Jesus“=74 AND “Fruit“=74)
                but the CHILDREN OF THE PROMISE are counted for The Seed.
John 12:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die,
                 it abides alone: but if [Jesus=74] dies, [He] will bring forth much fruit=74.

           

                “The Seed” is “The Word”! (Luke 8:11)
     
John 14:24 He that loveth me (Jesus) not keepeth not my (Jesus) sayings: and
                 The Word which ye hear is not mine, but The Father's which sent me.
Acts 19:20 So mightily grew The Word of God and prevailed.
Acts 12:24 The Word of God grew and multiplied.

Are you going to do as you say others do and disregard all these verses to keep the 'status quo”
“The Word” in each case here is [ο λογος] Hō Lōgôs, just as it is in John 1:1!
This is “Bible Truth”! When are you going to understand this?

Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (Elizabeth @ Mar. 22 2010,17:17)

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 22 2010,15:40) is not the Holy Spirit of God, kit is Jes Quote (Elizabeth @ Mar. 22 2010,15:05) Ed When Jesus begins to rule, Rev. 19:11, he will smite the earth with a double edged sword; that is symbolic for the word of God, no blood shed. Georg Hi Georg, Jesus: 'you say' is “The Word” and also He smites with “The Word”? Are you saying Jesus smites with himself? Your logic does not add up? Your interpretation of Facts is merely 'your opinion'; nothing provable! The rider in Rev.19:11 is the “HolySpirit”; “The Word” of God! (Re.19:16) Why do I say this: it's the correct interpretation, because of Psalm 110:1-2… Psalm 110:1-21 The LORD(יהוה YÄ-hä-vā) said unto my Lord(יהשוע YÄ-shü-ă),                        Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.                        The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength(HolySpirit) out of Zion:                        rule thou(HolySpirit) in the midst of thine enemies. The rider (of Rev.19:11-16) is the rod of Jesus strength: The “HOLYSPIRIT”! Jesus is sitting (in essence) doing nothing, while the “HolySpirit” is kicking dragon! Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17) יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org I just have to say something here. Ed!  Rev, 19:13  is not the Holy Spirit of God it is Jesus the Word.  Which goes along with John 1:1 and in verse 14 He became flesh and dwelt among us.  Not the Holy Spirit.  Such nonsense.  I just can't believe that>>>>>>>     Rev. 19:16 Says this “And on His robe and on His thigh a name is written: KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.  That is Jesus and not God's Holy Spirit.  I don't know much of History, but I do know that one.  King of Kings and Lord of Lords.  Everybody knows that……..except you?  Be for real…You are such a confused dud,   Irene

Hi Irene,

Why don't you believe “The Bible”=63, “The Word” of “YHVH”=63 instead of the systems of religion?
The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate except
distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit.

1) Here are the FACTS, according to The Bible…

“The Word”(Holy Spirit) became fully flesh(in Jesus) at Jesus baptism by John;
In Luke 4:1 He(Holy Spirit) led Jesus into the wilderness  and in Luke 4:14 He(Holy Spirit)
caused Jesus to return from the wilderness! In Matt.26:39,42 He(Holy Spirit)
made Jesus aware that he(Jesus) would have to die on a cross for the sins of mankind!
This is how “The Word”(Jesus’ Father) was made flesh, and dwelt among us. (John 14:9 / John 1:14)

John 3:34 For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God:
    for God giveth not the [HolySpirit] by measure unto him(Jesus Christ).
After Jesus baptism, you can no longer give a % of how much HolySpirit was in Jesus!

2) Let’s look at the beginning of Jesus (physical) life from the standpoint of genetics.

Science suggests that blood in the fetus comes from the father’s genetics.
That would mean “Jesus” had “GOD Blood” running through his veins.
To put this in scientific terms (according to facts written in the Bible),
that would mean Jesus at his birth was ½(50%) HOLYSPIRIT (Jesus’ FATHER Matt.1:18 / Matt.1:20),
¼(25%) from the tribe JUDAH (Mary’s Father’s tribe Luke 3:23-33) and
¼(25%) from the tribe of LEVI (Mary’s Mother’s tribe Luke 1:5).
That would make Jesus “a Prophet”(Luke 3:31), “a Priest”(Luke 1:5),
but the most important of all these, the “Son of GOD”( Matt.1:18 / Matt.1:20 / Luke 1:35)!

Acts 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock,
over the which the HolySpirit hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God,
which he(HolySpirit) hath purchased with his(HolySpirit's) own [God blood=74] (shed from Jesus'=74 veins).
It’s the shedding of Jesus’ “God blood” that removes sin (Heb.9:22).
“GOD The Father” raised Jesus back from the dead (Gal.1:1); for our Justification. (Rom.4:25)

Witnessing to the world in behalf of…
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! (Psalm 45:17)
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 22 2010,17:18)

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 22 2010,16:38) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 22 2010,16:11) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 22 2010,15:46) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 22 2010,15:40) Quote (Elizabeth @ Mar. 22 2010,15:05) Ed When Jesus begins to rule, Rev. 19:11, he will smite the earth with a double edged sword; that is symbolic for the word of God, no blood shed. Georg Hi Georg, Jesus: 'you say' is “The Word” and also He smites with “The Word”? Are you saying Jesus smites with himself? Your logic does not add up? Your interpretation of Facts is merely 'your opinion'; nothing provable! The rider in Rev.19:11 is the “HolySpirit”; “The Word” of God! (Re.19:16) Why do I say this: it's the correct interpretation, because of Psalm 110:1-2… Psalm 110:1-21 The LORD(יהוה YÄ-hä-vā) said unto my Lord(יהשוע YÄ-shü-ă),                        Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.                        The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength(HolySpirit) out of Zion:                        rule thou(HolySpirit) in the midst of thine enemies. The rider (of Rev.19:11-16) is the rod of Jesus strength: The “HOLYSPIRIT”! Jesus is sitting (in essence) doing nothing, while the “HolySpirit” is kicking dragon! Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17) יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj i don't know why you willingly change the word for 'THE WORD' word of God means the bible ,you know that but THE WORD “this is Christ, so your comment on Georg does not stand. Hi Terraricca, “The Word” in John 1:1 is also “The Word” in Rev.19:13: [ο λογος] Hō Lōgôs. “The Word” is the HolySpirit, not Jesus; religion has been lying to you! The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate except distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit. My comment is “Bible Truth” and does indeed stand as TRUTH! 2Peter 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved(inspired) by the HolySpirit. The “HolySpirit” is responsable for writing “The Bible”=63; “The Word” of “YHVH”=63! Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17) יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj you right in both verses it is th WORD  =Jesus not the Holy spirit. There is no mback up to your understanding in the scriptures that i know,or seen. if you have any show me ,if you send me to another site or one of your books, no good i am a simple men ,a few scriptures will do ,i do reed. Hi T You must blatantly disregard ALL these verses to hold onto the false belief that you hold dear… Luke 8:11 “The seed” is “the word“ of God. Hebrews 7:28 For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word(TheSeed “IS” HolySpirit) of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son(Jesus Christ), who is consecrated for evermore. Luke 8:11 Now the parable is this: The Seed is The Word of God. Luke 8:15 But that on the good ground are they, which in an honest and good heart,                having heard The Word, keep it, and bring forth fruit with patience. Rom.9:8 …children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: (“Jesus“=74 AND “Fruit“=74)                 but the CHILDREN OF THE PROMISE are counted for The Seed. John 12:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die,                  it abides alone: but if [Jesus=74] dies, [He] will bring forth much fruit=74.                             “The Seed” is “The Word”! (Luke 8:11)       John 14:24 He that loveth me (Jesus) not keepeth not my (Jesus) sayings: and                  The Word which ye hear is not mine, but The Father's which sent me. Acts 19:20 So mightily grew The Word of God and prevailed. Acts 12:24 The Word of God grew and multiplied. Are you going to do as you say others do and disregard all these verses to keep the 'status quo” “The Word” in each case here is [ο λογος] Hō Lōgôs, just as it is in John 1:1! This is “Bible Truth”! When are you going to understand this? Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17) 117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

edj

i checked your approache to those scriptures ,but you mixing two things;

a)THE WORD Jn1;1 is Jesus Christ and also in Rev 19

b)the word Luke 8;11.is the good news of the kingdom
the message ,the gospel of the apostles,

so a) and b) are totally different from each other.

the Holy spirit is something the father gives to those he choose.it is not a being,could be many things it is from him , from his qualities of powers.

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 22 2010,17:33)

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 22 2010,17:18) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 22 2010,16:38) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 22 2010,16:11) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 22 2010,15:46) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 22 2010,15:40) Quote (Elizabeth @ Mar. 22 2010,15:05) Ed When Jesus begins to rule, Rev. 19:11, he will smite the earth with a double edged sword; that is symbolic for the word of God, no blood shed. Georg Hi Georg, Jesus: 'you say' is “The Word” and also He smites with “The Word”? Are you saying Jesus smites with himself? Your logic does not add up? Your interpretation of Facts is merely 'your opinion'; nothing provable! The rider in Rev.19:11 is the “HolySpirit”; “The Word” of God! (Re.19:16) Why do I say this: it's the correct interpretation, because of Psalm 110:1-2… Psalm 110:1-21 The LORD(יהוה YÄ-hä-vā) said unto my Lord(יהשוע YÄ-shü-ă),                        Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.                        The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength(HolySpirit) out of Zion:                        rule thou(HolySpirit) in the midst of thine enemies. The rider (of Rev.19:11-16) is the rod of Jesus strength: The “HOLYSPIRIT”! Jesus is sitting (in essence) doing nothing, while the “HolySpirit” is kicking dragon! Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17) יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj i don't know why you willingly change the word for 'THE WORD' word of God means the bible ,you know that but THE WORD “this is Christ, so your comment on Georg does not stand. Hi Terraricca, “The Word” in John 1:1 is also “The Word” in Rev.19:13: [ο λογος] Hō Lōgôs. “The Word” is the HolySpirit, not Jesus; religion has been lying to you! The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate except distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit. My comment is “Bible Truth” and does indeed stand as TRUTH! 2Peter 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved(inspired) by the HolySpirit. The “HolySpirit” is responsable for writing “The Bible”=63; “The Word” of “YHVH”=63! Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17) יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj you right in both verses it is th WORD  =Jesus not the Holy spirit. There is no mback up to your understanding in the scriptures that i know,or seen. if you have any show me ,if you send me to another site or one of your books, no good i am a simple men ,a few scriptures will do ,i do reed. Hi T You must blatantly disregard ALL these verses to hold onto the false belief that you hold dear… Luke 8:11 “The seed” is “the word“ of God. Hebrews 7:28 For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word(TheSeed “IS” HolySpirit) of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son(Jesus Christ), who is consecrated for evermore. Luke 8:11 Now the parable is this: The Seed is The Word of God. Luke 8:15 But that on the good ground are they, which in an honest and good heart,                having heard The Word, keep it, and bring forth fruit with patience. Rom.9:8 …children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: (“Jesus“=74 AND “Fruit“=74)                 but the CHILDREN OF THE PROMISE are counted for The Seed. John 12:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die,                  it abides alone: but if [Jesus=74] dies, [He] will bring forth much fruit=74.                             “The Seed” is “The Word”! (Luke 8:11)       John 14:24 He that loveth me (Jesus) not keepeth not my (Jesus) sayings: and                  The Word which ye hear is not mine, but The Father's which sent me. Acts 19:20 So mightily grew The Word of God and prevailed. Acts 12:24 The Word of God grew and multiplied. Are you going to do as you say others do and disregard all these verses to keep the 'status quo” “The Word” in each case here is [ο λογος] Hō Lōgôs, just as it is in John 1:1! This is “Bible Truth”! When are you going to understand this? Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17) 117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj i checked your approache to those scriptures ,but you mixing two things; a)THE WORD Jn1;1 is Jesus Christ and also in Rev 19 b)the word Luke 8;11.is the good news of the kingdom   the message ,the gospel of the apostles, so  a)  and b) are totally different from each other. the Holy spirit is something th e father gives to those he choose.it is not a being,could be many things it is from him , from his qualities of powers.

Hi T

Every single one of those verses are [ο λογος] Hō Lōgôs, just as in John 1:1!
But you declare them to (falsely) carry different meanings?
You are doing exactly what you say others do!
I give you the verses and you ignore them.

Matt.4:4: But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone,
              but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

You remind me of when I tell the religious 'the rapture' doctrine is the doctrine of the devil!
There 'sacred cow' is 'the rapture' and yours is believing a false doctrine about John 1:1!
It's too bad you refuse to believe, especially when you asked and I produced “The Truth” for you!

Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Elizabeth]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 22 2010,17:26)

Quote (Elizabeth @ Mar. 22 2010,17:17) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 22 2010,15:40) is not the Holy Spirit of God, kit is Jes Quote (Elizabeth @ Mar. 22 2010,15:05) Ed When Jesus begins to rule, Rev. 19:11, he will smite the earth with a double edged sword; that is symbolic for the word of God, no blood shed. Georg Hi Georg, Jesus: 'you say' is “The Word” and also He smites with “The Word”? Are you saying Jesus smites with himself? Your logic does not add up? Your interpretation of Facts is merely 'your opinion'; nothing provable! The rider in Rev.19:11 is the “HolySpirit”; “The Word” of God! (Re.19:16) Why do I say this: it's the correct interpretation, because of Psalm 110:1-2… Psalm 110:1-21 The LORD(יהוה YÄ-hä-vā) said unto my Lord(יהשוע YÄ-shü-ă),                        Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.                        The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength(HolySpirit) out of Zion:                        rule thou(HolySpirit) in the midst of thine enemies. The rider (of Rev.19:11-16) is the rod of Jesus strength: The “HOLYSPIRIT”! Jesus is sitting (in essence) doing nothing, while the “HolySpirit” is kicking dragon! Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17) יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org I just have to say something here. Ed!  Rev, 19:13  is not the Holy Spirit of God it is Jesus the Word.  Which goes along with John 1:1 and in verse 14 He became flesh and dwelt among us.  Not the Holy Spirit.  Such nonsense.  I just can't believe that>>>>>>>     Rev. 19:16 Says this “And on His robe and on His thigh a name is written: KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.  That is Jesus and not God's Holy Spirit.  I don't know much of History, but I do know that one.  King of Kings and Lord of Lords.  Everybody knows that……..except you?  Be for real…You are such a confused dud,   Irene Hi Irene, Why don't you believe “The Bible”=63, “The Word” of “YHVH”=63 instead of the systems of religion? The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate except distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit. 1) Here are the FACTS, according to The Bible… “The Word”(Holy Spirit) became fully flesh(in Jesus) at Jesus baptism by John; In Luke 4:1 He(Holy Spirit) led Jesus into the wilderness  and in Luke 4:14 He(Holy Spirit) caused Jesus to return from the wilderness! In Matt.26:39,42 He(Holy Spirit) made Jesus aware that he(Jesus) would have to die on a cross for the sins of mankind! This is how “The Word”(Jesus’ Father) was made flesh, and dwelt among us. (John 14:9 / John 1:14) John 3:34 For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God:     for God giveth not the [HolySpirit] by measure unto him(Jesus Christ). After Jesus baptism, you can no longer give a % of how much HolySpirit was in Jesus! 2) Let’s look at the beginning of Jesus (physical) life from the standpoint of genetics. Science suggests that blood in the fetus comes from the father’s genetics. That would mean “Jesus” had “GOD Blood” running through his veins. To put this in scientific terms (according to facts written in the Bible), that would mean Jesus at his birth was ½(50%) HOLYSPIRIT (Jesus’ FATHER Matt.1:18 / Matt.1:20), ¼(25%) from the tribe JUDAH (Mary’s Father’s tribe Luke 3:23-33) and ¼(25%) from the tribe of LEVI (Mary’s Mother’s tribe Luke 1:5). That would make Jesus “a Prophet”(Luke 3:31), “a Priest”(Luke 1:5), but the most important of all these, the “Son of GOD”( Matt.1:18 / Matt.1:20 / Luke 1:35)! Acts 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the HolySpirit hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he(HolySpirit) hath purchased with his(HolySpirit's) own [God blood=74] (shed from Jesus'=74 veins). It’s the shedding of Jesus’ “God blood” that removes sin (Heb.9:22). “GOD The Father” raised Jesus back from the dead (Gal.1:1); for our Justification. (Rom.4:25) Witnessing to the world in behalf of… 117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! (Psalm 45:17) Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

You are so funny thinking that you know it all.  For your information we don't belong to NO ORGANAZATION.  We know how wrong they are, and you are too.  Saying that The King of Kings and Lord of Lords is the Spirit of the Father Jehovah.  That is laughable…….   And Jesus was not the firstborn of all creation either what you think, wrong.  He was the Word of God and was God and in verse 14 became flesh, not the Spirit of God.  Rev. 3:14 t tells the story too.
John 8:59 read it… I am not about to write all down..Jesus said Himself that He came down from Heaven to do the will of His Father.  And God send Him another Scripture. I could go on, but I am not wasting my time with you.  You will not change until Christ returns, then you better change or you dead….
Irene

[Ed J]

Quote (Elizabeth @ Mar. 22 2010,18:46)

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 22 2010,17:26) Quote (Elizabeth @ Mar. 22 2010,17:17) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 22 2010,15:40) is not the Holy Spirit of God, kit is Jes Quote (Elizabeth @ Mar. 22 2010,15:05) Ed When Jesus begins to rule, Rev. 19:11, he will smite the earth with a double edged sword; that is symbolic for the word of God, no blood shed. Georg Hi Georg, Jesus: 'you say' is “The Word” and also He smites with “The Word”? Are you saying Jesus smites with himself? Your logic does not add up? Your interpretation of Facts is merely 'your opinion'; nothing provable! The rider in Rev.19:11 is the “HolySpirit”; “The Word” of God! (Re.19:16) Why do I say this: it's the correct interpretation, because of Psalm 110:1-2… Psalm 110:1-21 The LORD(יהוה YÄ-hä-vā) said unto my Lord(יהשוע YÄ-shü-ă),                        Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.                        The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength(HolySpirit) out of Zion:                        rule thou(HolySpirit) in the midst of thine enemies. The rider (of Rev.19:11-16) is the rod of Jesus strength: The “HOLYSPIRIT”! Jesus is sitting (in essence) doing nothing, while the “HolySpirit” is kicking dragon! Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17) יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org I just have to say something here. Ed!  Rev, 19:13  is not the Holy Spirit of God it is Jesus the Word.  Which goes along with John 1:1 and in verse 14 He became flesh and dwelt among us.  Not the Holy Spirit.  Such nonsense.  I just can't believe that>>>>>>>     Rev. 19:16 Says this “And on His robe and on His thigh a name is written: KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.  That is Jesus and not God's Holy Spirit.  I don't know much of History, but I do know that one.  King of Kings and Lord of Lords.  Everybody knows that……..except you?  Be for real…You are such a confused dud,   Irene Hi Irene, Why don't you believe “The Bible”=63, “The Word” of “YHVH”=63 instead of the systems of religion? The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate except distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit. 1) Here are the FACTS, according to The Bible… “The Word”(Holy Spirit) became fully flesh(in Jesus) at Jesus baptism by John; In Luke 4:1 He(Holy Spirit) led Jesus into the wilderness  and in Luke 4:14 He(Holy Spirit) caused Jesus to return from the wilderness! In Matt.26:39,42 He(Holy Spirit) made Jesus aware that he(Jesus) would have to die on a cross for the sins of mankind! This is how “The Word”(Jesus’ Father) was made flesh, and dwelt among us. (John 14:9 / John 1:14) John 3:34 For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God:     for God giveth not the [HolySpirit] by measure unto him(Jesus Christ). After Jesus baptism, you can no longer give a % of how much HolySpirit was in Jesus! 2) Let’s look at the beginning of Jesus (physical) life from the standpoint of genetics. Science suggests that blood in the fetus comes from the father’s genetics. That would mean “Jesus” had “GOD Blood” running through his veins. To put this in scientific terms (according to facts written in the Bible), that would mean Jesus at his birth was ½(50%) HOLYSPIRIT (Jesus’ FATHER Matt.1:18 / Matt.1:20), ¼(25%) from the tribe JUDAH (Mary’s Father’s tribe Luke 3:23-33) and ¼(25%) from the tribe of LEVI (Mary’s Mother’s tribe Luke 1:5). That would make Jesus “a Prophet”(Luke 3:31), “a Priest”(Luke 1:5), but the most important of all these, the “Son of GOD”( Matt.1:18 / Matt.1:20 / Luke 1:35)! Acts 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the HolySpirit hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he(HolySpirit) hath purchased with his(HolySpirit's) own [God blood=74] (shed from Jesus'=74 veins). It’s the shedding of Jesus’ “God blood” that removes sin (Heb.9:22). “GOD The Father” raised Jesus back from the dead (Gal.1:1); for our Justification. (Rom.4:25) Witnessing to the world in behalf of… 117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! (Psalm 45:17) Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org You are so funny thinking that you know it all.  For your information we don't belong to NO ORGANAZATION.  We know how wrong they are, and you are too.  Saying that The King of Kings and Lord of Lords is the Spirit of the Father Jehovah.  That is laughable…….   And Jesus was not the firstborn of all creation either what you think, wrong.  He was the Word of God and was God and in verse 14 became flesh, not the Spirit of God.  Rev. 3:14 t tells the story too. John 8:59 read it… I am not about to write all down..Jesus said Himself that He came down from Heaven to do the will of His Father.  And God send Him another Scripture. I could go on, but I am not wasting my time with you.  You will not change until Christ returns, then you better change or you dead…. Irene

Hi Irene,

Jesus returned at “Pentecost”.
You believe in Jesus having a preexistence, what makes you 'think' I don't?

God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 22 2010,17:52)

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 22 2010,17:33) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 22 2010,17:18) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 22 2010,16:38) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 22 2010,16:11) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 22 2010,15:46) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 22 2010,15:40) Quote (Elizabeth @ Mar. 22 2010,15:05) Ed When Jesus begins to rule, Rev. 19:11, he will smite the earth with a double edged sword; that is symbolic for the word of God, no blood shed. Georg Hi Georg, Jesus: 'you say' is “The Word” and also He smites with “The Word”? Are you saying Jesus smites with himself? Your logic does not add up? Your interpretation of Facts is merely 'your opinion'; nothing provable! The rider in Rev.19:11 is the “HolySpirit”; “The Word” of God! (Re.19:16) Why do I say this: it's the correct interpretation, because of Psalm 110:1-2… Psalm 110:1-21 The LORD(יהוה YÄ-hä-vā) said unto my Lord(יהשוע YÄ-shü-ă),                        Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.                        The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength(HolySpirit) out of Zion:                        rule thou(HolySpirit) in the midst of thine enemies. The rider (of Rev.19:11-16) is the rod of Jesus strength: The “HOLYSPIRIT”! Jesus is sitting (in essence) doing nothing, while the “HolySpirit” is kicking dragon! Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17) יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj i don't know why you willingly change the word for 'THE WORD' word of God means the bible ,you know that but THE WORD “this is Christ, so your comment on Georg does not stand. Hi Terraricca, “The Word” in John 1:1 is also “The Word” in Rev.19:13: [ο λογος] Hō Lōgôs. “The Word” is the HolySpirit, not Jesus; religion has been lying to you! The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate except distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit. My comment is “Bible Truth” and does indeed stand as TRUTH! 2Peter 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved(inspired) by the HolySpirit. The “HolySpirit” is responsable for writing “The Bible”=63; “The Word” of “YHVH”=63! Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17) יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj you right in both verses it is th WORD  =Jesus not the Holy spirit. There is no mback up to your understanding in the scriptures that i know,or seen. if you have any show me ,if you send me to another site or one of your books, no good i am a simple men ,a few scriptures will do ,i do reed. Hi T You must blatantly disregard ALL these verses to hold onto the false belief that you hold dear… Luke 8:11 “The seed” is “the word“ of God. Hebrews 7:28 For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word(TheSeed “IS” HolySpirit) of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son(Jesus Christ), who is consecrated for evermore. Luke 8:11 Now the parable is this: The Seed is The Word of God. Luke 8:15 But that on the good ground are they, which in an honest and good heart,                having heard The Word, keep it, and bring forth fruit with patience. Rom.9:8 …children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: (“Jesus“=74 AND “Fruit“=74)                 but the CHILDREN OF THE PROMISE are counted for The Seed. John 12:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die,                  it abides alone: but if [Jesus=74] dies, [He] will bring forth much fruit=74.                             “The Seed” is “The Word”! (Luke 8:11)       John 14:24 He that loveth me (Jesus) not keepeth not my (Jesus) sayings: and                  The Word which ye hear is not mine, but The Father's which sent me. Acts 19:20 So mightily grew The Word of God and prevailed. Acts 12:24 The Word of God grew and multiplied. Are you going to do as you say others do and disregard all these verses to keep the 'status quo” “The Word” in each case here is [ο λογος] Hō Lōgôs, just as it is in John 1:1! This is “Bible Truth”! When are you going to understand this? Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17) 117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj i checked your approache to those scriptures ,but you mixing two things; a)THE WORD Jn1;1 is Jesus Christ and also in Rev 19 b)the word Luke 8;11.is the good news of the kingdom   the message ,the gospel of the apostles, so  a)  and b) are totally different from each other. the Holy spirit is something the father gives to those he choose.it is not a being,could be many things it is from him , from his qualities of powers. Hi T Every single one of those verses are [ο λογος] Hō Lōgôs, just as in John 1:1! But you declare them to (falsely) carry different meanings? You are doing exactly what you say others do! I give you the verses and you ignore them. Matt.4:4: But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone,               but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. You remind me of when I tell the religious 'the rapture' doctrine is the doctrine of the devil! There 'sacred cow' is 'the rapture' and yours is believing a false doctrine about John 1:1! It's too bad you refuse to believe, especially when you asked and I produced “The Truth” for you! Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17) יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Hi ED,
When did you become the oracle of truth for men?

[Elizabeth]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 22 2010,15:40)

Quote (Elizabeth @ Mar. 22 2010,15:05) Ed When Jesus begins to rule, Rev. 19:11, he will smite the earth with a double edged sword; that is symbolic for the word of God, no blood shed. Georg Hi Georg, Jesus: 'you say' is “The Word” and also He smites with “The Word”? Are you saying Jesus smites with himself? Your logic does not add up? Your interpretation of Facts is merely 'your opinion'; nothing provable! The rider in Rev.19:11 is the “HolySpirit”; “The Word” of God! (Re.19:16) Why do I say this: it's the correct interpretation, because of Psalm 110:1-2… Psalm 110:1-21 The LORD(יהוה YÄ-hä-vā) said unto my Lord(יהשוע YÄ-shü-ă),                        Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.                        The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength(HolySpirit) out of Zion:                        rule thou(HolySpirit) in the midst of thine enemies. The rider (of Rev.19:11-16) is the rod of Jesus strength: The “HOLYSPIRIT”! Jesus is sitting (in essence) doing nothing, while the “HolySpirit” is kicking dragon! Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17) יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Ed

You're dumber than I thought you were.
The rider in Rev. 19:11 is the holy spirit; now there is a new one. How many times did you have to role the dice to come up with that?
The Holy Spirit wearing many crowns?
The Holy spirits vesture dipped in blood?
The Holy Spirits name is called “the Word of God?”
The Holy Spirit has a name written on his thigh, “KING OF KINGS, and LORD OF LORDS?”
Aren't you at least a little bit embarrassed?

Georg

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 22 2010,17:18)

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 22 2010,16:38) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 22 2010,16:11) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 22 2010,15:46) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 22 2010,15:40) Quote (Elizabeth @ Mar. 22 2010,15:05) Ed When Jesus begins to rule, Rev. 19:11, he will smite the earth with a double edged sword; that is symbolic for the word of God, no blood shed. Georg Hi Georg, Jesus: 'you say' is “The Word” and also He smites with “The Word”? Are you saying Jesus smites with himself? Your logic does not add up? Your interpretation of Facts is merely 'your opinion'; nothing provable! The rider in Rev.19:11 is the “HolySpirit”; “The Word” of God! (Re.19:16) Why do I say this: it's the correct interpretation, because of Psalm 110:1-2… Psalm 110:1-21 The LORD(יהוה YÄ-hä-vā) said unto my Lord(יהשוע YÄ-shü-ă),                        Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.                        The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength(HolySpirit) out of Zion:                        rule thou(HolySpirit) in the midst of thine enemies. The rider (of Rev.19:11-16) is the rod of Jesus strength: The “HOLYSPIRIT”! Jesus is sitting (in essence) doing nothing, while the “HolySpirit” is kicking dragon! Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17) יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj i don't know why you willingly change the word for 'THE WORD' word of God means the bible ,you know that but THE WORD “this is Christ, so your comment on Georg does not stand. Hi Terraricca, “The Word” in John 1:1 is also “The Word” in Rev.19:13: [ο λογος] Hō Lōgôs. “The Word” is the HolySpirit, not Jesus; religion has been lying to you! The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate except distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit. My comment is “Bible Truth” and does indeed stand as TRUTH! 2Peter 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved(inspired) by the HolySpirit. The “HolySpirit” is responsable for writing “The Bible”=63; “The Word” of “YHVH”=63! Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17) יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj you right in both verses it is th WORD  =Jesus not the Holy spirit. There is no mback up to your understanding in the scriptures that i know,or seen. if you have any show me ,if you send me to another site or one of your books, no good i am a simple men ,a few scriptures will do ,i do reed. Hi T You must blatantly disregard ALL these verses to hold onto the false belief that you hold dear… Luke 8:11 “The seed” is “the word“ of God. Hebrews 7:28 For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word(TheSeed “IS” HolySpirit) of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son(Jesus Christ), who is consecrated for evermore. Luke 8:11 Now the parable is this: The Seed is The Word of God. Luke 8:15 But that on the good ground are they, which in an honest and good heart,                having heard The Word, keep it, and bring forth fruit with patience. Rom.9:8 …children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: (“Jesus“=74 AND “Fruit“=74)                 but the CHILDREN OF THE PROMISE are counted for The Seed. John 12:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die,                  it abides alone: but if [Jesus=74] dies, [He] will bring forth much fruit=74.                             “The Seed” is “The Word”! (Luke 8:11)       John 14:24 He that loveth me (Jesus) not keepeth not my (Jesus) sayings: and                  The Word which ye hear is not mine, but The Father's which sent me. Acts 19:20 So mightily grew The Word of God and prevailed. Acts 12:24 The Word of God grew and multiplied. Are you going to do as you say others do and disregard all these verses to keep the 'status quo” “The Word” in each case here is [ο λογος] Hō Lōgôs, just as it is in John 1:1! This is “Bible Truth”! When are you going to understand this? Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17) 117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

edj

the verses you quote are the ones i use to show that the word ;WORD; some times refers to the written word and some times to the WORD OF GOD =Jesus ,Jesus being the spoken word of God ,the first born of creation ,

but i guess you start to go in a way that takes you away from scriptures and therefore you can't see what others see,

because i do not see what you see either.

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