Pentecost was jesus second coming

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  • #199758
    NickHassan
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    Hi T,
    The death of Jesus did not magically absolve all sin.
    But it does allow men to come to God through and in Jesus

    #199776
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 25 2010,13:12)
    Hi T,
    The death of Jesus did not magically absolve all sin.
    But it does allow men to come to God through and in Jesus


    nick

    you say; in Jesus

    this i do not understand in my understanding because it make not sence ,how could you be in someone or someone in you.

    this is only possible if you are thinking and doing the samethings for the same reasons.

    and that s how i understand it.

    Pierre

    #199781
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    You are baptised into Christ[gal3.27]
    The Spirit of Christ is born into you[gal 4.19]
    You must be born again of water and the Spirit.[Jn3]

    Christ is in God and God is in him.[jn14.10]
    We are invited to join that unity.[jn17.21]

    #199807
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 25 2010,15:09)
    Hi T,
    You are baptised into Christ[gal3.27]
    The Spirit of Christ is born into you[gal 4.19]
    You must be born again of water and the Spirit.[Jn3]

    Christ is in God and God is in him.[jn14.10]
    We are invited to join that unity.[jn17.21]


    nick

    if you are baptize in the name of Christ,it is to do Gods will,this is what Jesus was preaching.

    if the will you have to do gods will equals the will of Christ as he was doing his father s will ,you have then the same spirit or will.

    a person is born again wen he or she commit himself to do Gods will and no longer the will of men of this world including himself.

    the baptism was for the Jews and so became a corner stone on witch they fall.

    i have not seen a person who is called by God to baptize ,

    so it as become a religious ritual more to secure proselytes than make disciples to the God in heaven.

    Pierre

    #199809
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    Yes your view is very popular these days with the teachings of scripture discarded by men.
    But the gospel is not to divide men from each other but to unite them.
    The way is the same in every generation and for all.

    #199870
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 25 2010,17:34)
    Hi T,
    Yes your view is very popular these days with the teachings of scripture discarded by men.
    But the gospel is not to divide men from each other but to unite them.
    The way is the same in every generation and for all.


    nick

    you did not answer any of those questions because you can not .

    and so you stand with what you do not understand,or do not want to see .

    Paul says that it is not the circumcision in the flesh that makes you a Jew but the circumcision of the heart,that is what God always wanted even from the Israelites.

    Pierre

    #199883
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    Yes.
    Baptism is the new circumcision.

    col 2.9-11

    #201823
    Ed J
    Participant

    Bump for Tim Kraft

    #201835
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,
    Of course Jesus never spoke of a SECOND COMING.
    But he did promise to be with his brothers till his return.

    #201897
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 06 2010,06:56)
    Hi,
    Of course Jesus never spoke of a SECOND COMING.
    But he did promise to be with his brothers till his return.


    Hi Nick,

    Where is 'your' Scriptural backing of 'your' assertion? (Isaiah 5:18-21) (Click Here)

    Isaiah 5:18-21 Woe unto them that draw iniquity with cords of vanity, and sin as it were with a cart rope:
    That say, Let him make speed, and hasten his work, that we may see it: and let
    the counsel of the Holy One of Israel draw nigh and come, that we may know it!

    Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light,
    and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter (Eccl.4:16)!

    Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!

    Ed J (Daniel 11:18 / Eccl.9:12-16)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #201899
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,
    But you are not an arbiter of truth.
    Neither should you take rejection of some of what you offer personally.
    Using a scriptural bludgeon against those who disagree and could assist you is not helpful for you or anyone.

    #201904
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,
    Do you read your words?
    Let scripture justify your ministry rather than offering personal guarantees

    #201910
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 06 2010,13:12)
    Hi ED,
    But you are not an arbiter of truth.
    Neither should you take rejection of some of what you offer personally.
    Using a scriptural bludgeon against those who disagree and could assist you is not helpful for you or anyone.


    Hi Nick,

    Your doing like Terraricca, offering opinions as opposition?
    Where is your Scriptural backing of your assertions?
    Post them so we can reason together. (Is.1:18)
    We can be helpful to others readers that way.

    Heb.4:12 For “The Word” of God is quick, and powerful,
    and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to
    the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and
    marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

    God bless
    Ed J (Rev.19:11-21)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #201912
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ July 06 2010,15:23)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 06 2010,13:12)
    Hi ED,
    But you are not an arbiter of truth.
    Neither should you take rejection of some of what you offer personally.
    Using a scriptural bludgeon against those who disagree and could assist you is not helpful for you or anyone.


    Hi Nick,

    Your doing like Terraricca, offering opinions as opposition?
    Where is your Scriptural backing of your assertions?
    Post them so we can reason together. (Is.1:18)
    We can be helpful to others readers that way.

    Heb.4:12 For “The Word” of God is quick, and powerful,
    and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to
    the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and
    marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

    God bless
    Ed J (Rev.19:11-21)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    Mt 21:42 Jesus said to them, “Have you never read in the Scriptures:
    “ ‘The stone the builders rejected
    has become the capstone;
    the Lord has done this,
    and it is marvelous in our eyes’

    Mt 22:29 Jesus replied, “You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God.

    the scriptures are useful to bring us to the faith in Christ;Jn 5:39 You diligently study the Scriptures because you think that by them you possess eternal life. These are the Scriptures that testify about me,

    Ac 17:11 Now the Bereans were of more noble character than the Thessalonians, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true

    Ac 18:28 For he vigorously refuted the Jews in public debate, proving from the Scriptures that Jesus was the Christ.
    Ro 1:2 the gospel he promised beforehand through his prophets in the Holy Scriptures
    Ro 15:4 For everything that was written in the past was written to teach us

    1Co 15:3 For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance : that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures,
    1Co 15:4 that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures,
    2Ti 3:15 and how from infancy you have known the holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus.
    2Pe 3:16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction

    Da 9:2 in the first year of his reign, I, Daniel, understood from the Scriptures, according to the word of the LORD given to Jeremiah the prophet, that the desolation of Jerusalem would last seventy years.

    this is what scripture knowledge does if you study it.

    Pierre

    #201927
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ July 06 2010,15:36)
    edj

    Mt 21:42 Jesus said to them, “Have you never read in the Scriptures:
    “ ‘The stone the builders rejected
    has become the capstone;
    the Lord has done this,
    and it is marvelous in our eyes’

    Mt 22:29 Jesus replied, “You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God.

    the scriptures are useful to bring us to the faith in Christ;Jn 5:39 You diligently study the Scriptures because you think that by them you possess eternal life. These are the Scriptures that testify about me,

    Ac 17:11 Now the Bereans were of more noble character than the Thessalonians, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true

    Ac 18:28 For he vigorously refuted the Jews in public debate, proving from the Scriptures that Jesus was the Christ.
    Ro 1:2 the gospel he promised beforehand through his prophets in the Holy Scriptures
    Ro 15:4 For everything that was written in the past was written to teach us

    1Co 15:3 For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance : that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures,
    1Co 15:4 that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures,
    2Ti 3:15 and how from infancy you have known the holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus.
    2Pe 3:16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction

    Da 9:2 in the first year of his reign, I, Daniel, understood from the Scriptures, according to the word of the LORD given to Jeremiah the prophet, that the desolation of Jerusalem would last seventy years.

    this is what scripture knowledge does if you study it.

    Pierre


    Hi Terraricca,

    Those are GREAT Scriptures; but they have NOTHING to do with
    what neither I nor Nick Hassan are talking about in this Thread?
    Why'd you Post them; it would be nice if you explained yourself?

    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #201939
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,
    And you do not offer opinion?

    #201943
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 06 2010,19:45)
    Hi ED,
    And you do not offer opinion?


    Hi Nick,

    I offer Scriptural backing to each and every “point” I make.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #201945
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,
    We are not meant to use scripture to justify our beliefs but rather let scripture teach.
    One verse justifications are the basis of most of the denominations.
    Christ is not divided and scripture deserves respect.

    It is truth and it can be proven by repetition.[2cor13.1]

    #201949
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 06 2010,20:25)
    Hi ED,
    We are not meant to use scripture to justify our beliefs but rather let scripture teach.
    One verse justifications are the basis of most of the denominations.
    Christ is not divided and scripture deserves respect.

    It is truth and it can be proven by repetition.[2cor13.1]


    Hi Nick,

    Did not the Apostle Paul quote Scripture is his letters to the Churches?
    The points I make “are” repeated over and over in the Scriptures.
    I don't base anything on one verse alone, nor should anyone.

    God bless
    Ed J (Isaiah 60:13-15)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #201954
    Tim Kraft
    Participant

    Could someone tell me what a bump is? TK

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