Pentecost was jesus second coming

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ April 30 2010,16:13)

Quote (Ed J @ April 30 2010,15:44) Quote (terraricca @ April 30 2010,12:23) edj ….you may find yourself in deep trouble.he is the second in command were that leave you?? Hi Terraricca,        It's time you begin to learn more about (God=26) [26=יהוה] YÄ=26. (Heb.6:1-3) Rev.2:6-27 But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate. 27: He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the “tree of life”=101 (101=26th Prime #), which is in the midst of the paradise of God. The Nicolaitans were all about rank and command hierarchy; which also seems to interest you. Please try to learn this very important “Bible Truth”… Matt.20:25-28 But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them. 26 But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister; And whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant: Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many. Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ again if Christ is not the second in command ,prove it he is not and do not test my knowledge of scriptures against your, wen you bring verses of scriptures and twist them what are your intention; to show people your superiority in knowledge ,and by doing so lower anyone else around you?? that you may possess the spirit? you can not change the SPIRIT OF JESUS CHRIST.

Hi Terraricca,

How many “priests” do you know that are in charge of 'Military Command'?

Heb.5:5 So also Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest;
but he that said unto him, Thou art my Son, to day have I begotten thee.

Heb.2:17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his
brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things
pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.

Heb.7:26 For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless,
undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;

God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
Like David he is king and priest.
He will rule from the throne of David.

[Ed J]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 30 2010,18:15)

Hi ED, Like David he is king and priest. He will rule from the throne of David.

Hi Nick,

Please tell: How does all of what you say “square” with these verses…

I Samuel 8:5-7 And said unto him, Behold, thou(Samuel) art old, and thy sons walk not in thy ways:
now make us a king to judge us like all the nations. But the thing displeased Samuel,
when they said, Give us a king to judge us.  And Samuel prayed unto the LORD.
And the LORD said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people
in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but
they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them.

Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
Why would you be surprised that the house of Israel rejects the ways of God?

[Ed J]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 30 2010,22:09)

Hi ED, Why would you be surprised that the house of Israel rejects the ways of God?

Hi Nick,

That really isn't much of an answer, as a matter of fact it is more of a question.
Me being surprised or no does not belong in this question?

Why does the house of Israel reject the ways of their God?
Because they are looking for someone to fulfill their lustful expectations
instead of doing it God's way, which is to kill the ego! (Matt.16:24-27)

I notice patterns, and here is the reason for your reluctance to answer.
Your apprehension to answer questions is because (no names)…
first they ask you a question, then attack your genuine heartfelt reply calling it 'wrong'.
Shouldn't people ask questions based on wanting to learn something?

God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Elizabeth]

Quote (Elizabeth @ April 30 2010,17:24)

Hi Georg, As you conveniently disregard all 58 Bible verses (I gave as PROOF), how (knowing the name “Jesus”) does Rev.19:12 fit into 'your' formula… Rev.19:12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. And for that matter, how does this verse fit 'your formula' as well… Rev.2:17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna (what is the hidden manna; Georg?), and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it. Looking forward to your response! God bless Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org[/quote] Ed, it simply shows that you don't know who, or what, the Holy spirit is; it is God's Mind, his Holy Mind; by most referred to as “spirit”. Remember, Paul said, let this “mind” be in you which was also in Christ Jesus? Phil. 2:5. What “mind” do you think Paul was talking about? Paul also says there is a spirit in man, 1 Cor. 2:11; why does Paul call it a spirit? because it is the invisible part in us, just as a spirit being, you cant see it. All the scriptures you mentioned refer to the Holy Spirit/Mind of God. Hidden manna? eternal life. Jhn 6:47   Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.   Jhn 6:48   I am that bread of life.   Jhn 6:49   Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead.   Jhn 6:50   This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die.   Jhn 6:51   I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.   A new stone, a new name? Isa 56:5   Even unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a place and a name better than of sons and of daughters: I will give them an everlasting name, that shall not be cut off.   Georg

Hey Ed

You said you were so eager, looking forward to my response; have you now conveniently overlooked it?

Georg

[Ed J]

Quote (Elizabeth @ April 30 2010,23:48)

Quote (Elizabeth @ April 30 2010,17:24) Quote (Ed J @ April 30 2010,05:05) Hi Georg, As you conveniently disregard all 58 Bible verses (I gave as PROOF), how (knowing the name “Jesus”) does Rev.19:12 fit into 'your' formula… Rev.19:12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. And for that matter, how does this verse fit 'your formula' as well… Rev.2:17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna (what is the hidden manna; Georg?), and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it. Looking forward to your response! God bless Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Ed, it simply shows that you don't know who, or what, the Holy spirit is; it is God's Mind, his Holy Mind; by most referred to as “spirit”. Remember, Paul said, let this “mind” be in you which was also in Christ Jesus? Phil. 2:5. What “mind” do you think Paul was talking about? Paul also says there is a spirit in man, 1 Cor. 2:11; why does Paul call it a spirit? because it is the invisible part in us, just as a spirit being, you cant see it. All the scriptures you mentioned refer to the Holy Spirit/Mind of God. Hidden manna? eternal life. Jhn 6:47   Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.   Jhn 6:48   I am that bread of life.   Jhn 6:49   Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead.   Jhn 6:50   This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die.   Jhn 6:51   I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.   A new stone, a new name? Isa 56:5   Even unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a place and a name better than of sons and of daughters: I will give them an everlasting name, that shall not be cut off.   Georg Hey Ed You said you were so eager, looking forward to my response; have you now conveniently overlooked it? Georg

Hi Georg,

No; I didn't overlook it.
Thank you very much for answering my question to you!

God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
PS. I fixed your Post.

[Elizabeth]

Quote (Ed J @ April 30 2010,23:35)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 30 2010,22:09) Hi ED, Why would you be surprised that the house of Israel rejects the ways of God? Hi Nick, That really isn't much of an answer, as a matter of fact it is more of a question. Me being surprised or no does not belong in this question? Why does the house of Israel reject the ways of their God? Because they are looking for someone to fulfill their lustful expectations instead of doing it God's way, which is to kill the ego! (Matt.16:24-27) I notice patterns, and here is the reason for your reluctance to answer. Your apprehension to answer questions is because (no names)… first they ask you a question, then attack your genuine heartfelt reply calling it 'wrong'. Shouldn't people ask questions based on wanting to learn something? God bless Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

No Ed, it was because of this.

Hbr 3:17 But with whom was he grieved forty years? was it not with them that had sinned, whose carcases fell in the wilderness?

Hbr 3:18 And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not?

Hbr 3:19 So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.

Rom 9:31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.

Rom 9:32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;

I like your last sentence, would it not be great if you do that?

Georg

[Elizabeth]

Quote (Ed J @ April 30 2010,23:57)

Quote (Elizabeth @ April 30 2010,23:48) Quote (Elizabeth @ April 30 2010,17:24) Quote (Ed J @ April 30 2010,05:05) Hi Georg, As you conveniently disregard all 58 Bible verses (I gave as PROOF), how (knowing the name “Jesus”) does Rev.19:12 fit into 'your' formula… Rev.19:12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. And for that matter, how does this verse fit 'your formula' as well… Rev.2:17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna (what is the hidden manna; Georg?), and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it. Looking forward to your response! God bless Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Ed, it simply shows that you don't know who, or what, the Holy spirit is; it is God's Mind, his Holy Mind; by most referred to as “spirit”. Remember, Paul said, let this “mind” be in you which was also in Christ Jesus? Phil. 2:5. What “mind” do you think Paul was talking about? Paul also says there is a spirit in man, 1 Cor. 2:11; why does Paul call it a spirit? because it is the invisible part in us, just as a spirit being, you cant see it. All the scriptures you mentioned refer to the Holy Spirit/Mind of God. Hidden manna? eternal life. Jhn 6:47   Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.   Jhn 6:48   I am that bread of life.   Jhn 6:49   Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead.   Jhn 6:50   This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die.   Jhn 6:51   I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.   A new stone, a new name? Isa 56:5   Even unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a place and a name better than of sons and of daughters: I will give them an everlasting name, that shall not be cut off.   Georg Hey Ed You said you were so eager, looking forward to my response; have you now conveniently overlooked it? Georg Hi Georg, No; I didn't overlook it. Thank you very much for answering my question to you! God bless Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org PS. I fixed your Post.

Question, what do you mean by; “I fixed your post?”

Georg

[Ed J]

Quote (Elizabeth @ May 01 2010,00:05)

Quote (Ed J @ April 30 2010,23:35) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 30 2010,22:09) Hi ED, Why would you be surprised that the house of Israel rejects the ways of God? Hi Nick, That really isn't much of an answer, as a matter of fact it is more of a question. Me being surprised or no does not belong in this question? Why does the house of Israel reject the ways of their God? Because they are looking for someone to fulfill their lustful expectations instead of doing it God's way, which is to kill the ego! (Matt.16:24-27) I notice patterns, and here is the reason for your reluctance to answer. Your apprehension to answer questions is because (no names)… first they ask you a question, then attack your genuine heartfelt reply calling it 'wrong'. Shouldn't people ask questions based on wanting to learn something? God bless Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org No Ed, it was because of this. Hbr 3:17   But with whom was he grieved forty years? was it not with them that had sinned, whose carcases fell in the wilderness?   Hbr 3:18   And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not?   Hbr 3:19   So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.   Rom 9:31   But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.   Rom 9:32   Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;   I like your last sentence, would it not be great if you do that? Georg

Hi Georg,

My questions may be as simple as wanting to clarify someones view; this too is learning!

God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Elizabeth]

Quote (Ed J @ May 01 2010,00:12)

Quote (Elizabeth @ May 01 2010,00:05) Quote (Ed J @ April 30 2010,23:35) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 30 2010,22:09) Hi ED, Why would you be surprised that the house of Israel rejects the ways of God? Hi Nick, That really isn't much of an answer, as a matter of fact it is more of a question. Me being surprised or no does not belong in this question? Why does the house of Israel reject the ways of their God? Because they are looking for someone to fulfill their lustful expectations instead of doing it God's way, which is to kill the ego! (Matt.16:24-27) I notice patterns, and here is the reason for your reluctance to answer. Your apprehension to answer questions is because (no names)… first they ask you a question, then attack your genuine heartfelt reply calling it 'wrong'. Shouldn't people ask questions based on wanting to learn something? God bless Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org No Ed, it was because of this. Hbr 3:17   But with whom was he grieved forty years? was it not with them that had sinned, whose carcases fell in the wilderness?   Hbr 3:18   And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not?   Hbr 3:19   So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.   Rom 9:31   But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.   Rom 9:32   Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;   I like your last sentence, would it not be great if you do that? Georg Hi Georg, My questions may be as simple as wanting to clarify someones view; this too is learning! God bless Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

except you don't like being corrected, that's why you never ask questions, do you?

Georg

[Ed J]

Quote (Elizabeth @ May 01 2010,00:08)

Question, what do you mean by; “I fixed your post?” Georg

Hi Georg,

In the sixth Post from the top, you have my quote and yours in the same box listed as your quote.
In my response to you (one Post lower), I fixed it.

God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (Elizabeth @ May 01 2010,00:18)

except you don't like being corrected, that's why you never ask questions, do you? Georg

Hi Georg,

Could you clarify what you mean?

Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (Ed J @ May 01 2010,00:20)

Quote (Elizabeth @ May 01 2010,00:08) Question, what do you mean by; “I fixed your post?” Georg Hi Georg, In the sixth Post from the top, you have my quote and yours in the same box listed as your quote. In my response to you (one Post lower), I fixed it. God bless Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Did you miss this Post; Georg?

[Elizabeth]

Quote (Ed J @ May 01 2010,13:53)

Quote (Ed J @ May 01 2010,00:20) Quote (Elizabeth @ May 01 2010,00:08) Question, what do you mean by; “I fixed your post?” Georg Hi Georg, In the sixth Post from the top, you have my quote and yours in the same box listed as your quote. In my response to you (one Post lower), I fixed it. God bless Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Did you miss this Post; Georg?

NO

[Ed J]

Quote (Elizabeth @ May 01 2010,13:55)

Quote (Ed J @ May 01 2010,13:53) Quote (Ed J @ May 01 2010,00:20) Quote (Elizabeth @ May 01 2010,00:08) Question, what do you mean by; “I fixed your post?” Georg Hi Georg, In the sixth Post from the top, you have my quote and yours in the same box listed as your quote. In my response to you (one Post lower), I fixed it. God bless Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Did you miss this Post; Georg? NO

Did you see what I was talking about?

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ April 30 2010,18:03)

Quote (terraricca @ April 30 2010,16:13) Quote (Ed J @ April 30 2010,15:44) Quote (terraricca @ April 30 2010,12:23) edj ….you may find yourself in deep trouble.he is the second in command were that leave you?? Hi Terraricca,        It's time you begin to learn more about (God=26) [26=יהוה] YÄ=26. (Heb.6:1-3) Rev.2:6-27 But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate. 27: He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the “tree of life”=101 (101=26th Prime #), which is in the midst of the paradise of God. The Nicolaitans were all about rank and command hierarchy; which also seems to interest you. Please try to learn this very important “Bible Truth”… Matt.20:25-28 But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them. 26 But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister; And whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant: Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many. Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ again if Christ is not the second in command ,prove it he is not and do not test my knowledge of scriptures against your, wen you bring verses of scriptures and twist them what are your intention; to show people your superiority in knowledge ,and by doing so lower anyone else around you?? that you may possess the spirit? you can not change the SPIRIT OF JESUS CHRIST. Hi Terraricca, How many “priests” do you know that are in charge of 'Military Command'? Heb.5:5 So also Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest; but he that said unto him, Thou art my Son, to day have I begotten thee. Heb.2:17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people. Heb.7:26 For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens; God bless Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

edj

were do you get your bible ??

Heb 7:26 Such a high priest meets our need—one who is holy, blameless, pure, set apart from sinners, exalted above the heavens.

No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth.
Rev 14:4 These are those who did not defile themselves with women, for they kept themselves pure. They follow the Lamb wherever he goes. They were purchased from among men and offered as firstfruits to God and the Lamb.
Rev 14:5 No lie was found in their mouths; they are blameless.

Heb 6:20 where Jesus, who went before us, has entered on our behalf. He has become a high priest forever, in the order of Melchizedek

Rev 1:6 and has made us to be a kingdom and priests to serve his God and Father—to him be glory and power for ever and ever! Amen.
Rev 5:10 You have made them to be a kingdom and priests to serve our God,
and they will reign on the earth.”
Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years

Phil 2:10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,

this is except God. so Christ is the second higher in heaven.

there will be 144000 priest and one high priest Jesus
priests are servants of God.

[Elizabeth]

terraricca

Rev 5:10 You have made them to be a kingdom and priests to serve our God, and they will reign on the earth.”

The way this has been translated makes no sense; you have made “them” to be a kingdom? who is the kingdom? the priests?
Try this translation.

Rev 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

There will be “kings and priests” in God's kingdom; the 144000 are the kings, the great multitude are the priests.

Rev 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

Georg

[terraricca]

Quote (Elizabeth @ May 01 2010,23:36)

terraricca Rev 5:10 You have made them to be a kingdom and priests to serve our God, and they will reign on the earth.” The way this has been translated makes no sense; you have made “them” to be a kingdom? who is the kingdom? the priests? Try this translation. Rev 5:10   And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.   There will be “kings and priests” in God's kingdom; the 144000 are the kings, the great multitude are the priests. Rev 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; Georg

georg

all your comments and scriptures are in here;;
Mt 22:2 “The kingdom of heaven is like a king who prepared a wedding banquet for his son.
Mt 22:3 He sent his servants to those who had been invited to the banquet to tell them to come, but they refused to come.
Mt 22:4 “Then he sent some more servants and said, ‘Tell those who have been invited that I have prepared my dinner: My oxen and fattened cattle have been butchered, and everything is ready. Come to the wedding banquet.’
Mt 22:5 “But they paid no attention and went off—one to his field, another to his business.
Mt 22:6 The rest seized his servants, mistreated them and killed them.
Mt 22:7 The king was enraged. He sent his army and destroyed those murderers and burned their city.
Mt 22:8 “Then he said to his servants, ‘The wedding banquet is ready, but those I invited did not deserve to come.
Mt 22:9 Go to the street corners and invite to the banquet anyone you find.’
Mt 22:10 So the servants went out into the streets and gathered all the people they could find, both good and bad, and the wedding hall was filled with guests.
Mt 22:11 “But when the king came in to see the guests, he noticed a man there who was not wearing wedding clothes.
Mt 22:12 ‘Friend,’ he asked, ‘how did you get in here without wedding clothes?’ The man was speechless.
Mt 22:13 “Then the king told the attendants, ‘Tie him hand and foot, and throw him outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’
Mt 22:14 “For many are invited, but few are chosen.”

and more like this;;

Mt 20:1 “For the kingdom of heaven is like a landowner who went out early in the morning to hire men to work in his vineyard.
Mt 20:2 He agreed to pay them a denarius for the day and sent them into his vineyard.
Mt 20:3 “About the third hour he went out and saw others standing in the marketplace doing nothing.
Mt 20:4 He told them, ‘You also go and work in my vineyard, and I will pay you whatever is right.’
Mt 20:5 So they went.
“He went out again about the sixth hour and the ninth hour and did the same thing.
Mt 20:6 About the eleventh hour he went out and found still others standing around. He asked them, ‘Why have you been standing here all day long doing nothing?’
Mt 20:7 “ ‘Because no one has hired us,’ they answered.
“He said to them, ‘You also go and work in my vineyard.’
Mt 20:8 “When evening came, the owner of the vineyard said to his foreman, ‘Call the workers and pay them their wages, beginning with the last ones hired and going on to the first.’
Mt 20:9 “The workers who were hired about the eleventh hour came and each received a denarius.
Mt 20:10 So when those came who were hired first, they expected to receive more. But each one of them also received a denarius.
Mt 20:11 When they received it, they began to grumble against the landowner.
Mt 20:12 ‘These men who were hired last worked only one hour,’ they said, ‘and you have made them equal to us who have borne the burden of the work and the heat of the day.’
Mt 20:13 “But he answered one of them, ‘Friend, I am not being unfair to you. Didn’t you agree to work for a denarius?
Mt 20:14 Take your pay and go. I want to give the man who was hired last the same as I gave you.
Mt 20:15 Don’t I have the right to do what I want with my own money? Or are you envious because I am generous?’
Mt 20:16 “So the last will be first, and the first will be last

[Elizabeth]

terraricca

I'm beginning to wonder if you are really serious about all of this.
Again you avoid commenting on what I said, instead you give me allot of scriptures that have nothing to do with what I was talking about.
I'm having the feeling it is pointless to debate with you, you're becoming more like Ed.

Georg

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