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- July 17, 2009 at 2:13 am#137851bodhithartaParticipant
Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 17 2009,14:03) Hui BD,
But you have no truck with Israel do you?
Abraham is the root of Israel in Abraham there is no Jew or gentile this is the true faith, this is Islam(Submission to God)July 17, 2009 at 2:21 am#137852942767ParticipantQuote (bodhitharta @ July 17 2009,12:09) Quote (942767 @ July 17 2009,11:52) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 16 2009,16:23) Quote (942767 @ July 16 2009,16:21) Hi BD: The following verses are central to Christianity, and if you are a Christian, you would believe God's testimony regarding Him giving his Son to be the propitation for our sins.
Quote Jhn 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: Jhn 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Jhn 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
Jhn 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Jhn 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
Jhn 3:20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
Jhn 3:21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
If you are preaching another gospel other than this one, no, you aren't a Christian. You can be. God loves you and so do I, but without the blood to wash away your sins, no, you aren't a Christian.
Love in Christ,
Marty
What if you really love Jesus more then your own salvation?
Hi BD:Do you? How then do you show your love for him?
Love in Christ,
Marty
By being truthful and being bold about it.There is no need to shed blood for atonement, NONE
You don't understand the scriptures. And there is no where in the entire Bible where the shedding of innocent human blood is condoned.
If you are preparing to be a bishop and you are talking about the rituals of sacrifice and atonement I suggest you study the scriptures your knowledge in that area is severely lacking.
God even taught the Israelites that when they were away from their land or captives that they shall give the sacrifice of their lips and face Jerusalem and ask for forgiveness.
Study, Study, Study
Hi BD:Well now, let me see, if God installs me as a Bishop which is an overseer in the church, and confirms what I am teaching with miracles and signs and wonders following, should I believe Him or you relative to my qualifications?
Love in Christ,
MartyJuly 17, 2009 at 2:32 am#137855bodhithartaParticipantQuote (942767 @ July 17 2009,14:21) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 17 2009,12:09) Quote (942767 @ July 17 2009,11:52) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 16 2009,16:23) Quote (942767 @ July 16 2009,16:21) Hi BD: The following verses are central to Christianity, and if you are a Christian, you would believe God's testimony regarding Him giving his Son to be the propitation for our sins.
Quote Jhn 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: Jhn 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Jhn 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
Jhn 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Jhn 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
Jhn 3:20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
Jhn 3:21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
If you are preaching another gospel other than this one, no, you aren't a Christian. You can be. God loves you and so do I, but without the blood to wash away your sins, no, you aren't a Christian.
Love in Christ,
Marty
What if you really love Jesus more then your own salvation?
Hi BD:Do you? How then do you show your love for him?
Love in Christ,
Marty
By being truthful and being bold about it.There is no need to shed blood for atonement, NONE
You don't understand the scriptures. And there is no where in the entire Bible where the shedding of innocent human blood is condoned.
If you are preparing to be a bishop and you are talking about the rituals of sacrifice and atonement I suggest you study the scriptures your knowledge in that area is severely lacking.
God even taught the Israelites that when they were away from their land or captives that they shall give the sacrifice of their lips and face Jerusalem and ask for forgiveness.
Study, Study, Study
Hi BD:Well now, let me see, if God installs me as a Bishop which is an overseer in the church, and confirms what I am teaching with miracles and signs and wonders following, should I believe Him or you relative to my qualifications?
Love in Christ,
Marty
Look Marty,I don't want to diminish you or your faith in anyway for with me satan shall not have his way.
I have been allowed to do miracles and God has confirmed my teachings with signs and wonders. You should believe God over me every time.
Your doctrine is not what is drawing God to you it is you and your devotion. God knows He can work with your heart and mind over time according to your devotion.
I have been instructed to approach you a certain way because of certain sensitivities you possess, so keep in mind we must discuss what we discuss without you feeling resentment or uncertainty.
You have a strong will to love and that is what is acceptable to the Lord God.
God Bless you Always!
July 17, 2009 at 2:33 am#137856NickHassanParticipantHi BD,
So your spirit tells you to criticise Jesus and the servants of God?July 17, 2009 at 2:39 am#137858bodhithartaParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ July 17 2009,14:33) Hi BD,
So your spirit tells you to criticise Jesus and the servants of God?
If I give you the scriptures then I do nothing.July 17, 2009 at 2:41 am#137859NickHassanParticipantHi BD,
Except misunderstand them and try to use them as a weapon against the Spirit of God Who wrote them through men.July 17, 2009 at 2:53 am#137862bodhithartaParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ July 17 2009,14:41) Hi BD,
Except misunderstand them and try to use them as a weapon against the Spirit of God Who wrote them through men.
Not everything written was inspired by God. God did not inspire Paul to call Christ accursed and he even admitted it.If your devotion was to God instead of fractured you would see the truth.
July 17, 2009 at 2:56 am#137865NickHassanParticipantHi BD,
You obsession with opposing the work of Christ in Paul is not healthyJuly 17, 2009 at 3:04 am#137870bodhithartaParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ July 17 2009,14:56) Hi BD,
You obsession with opposing the work of Christ in Paul is not healthy
If I show you the scriptures you should not be at odds with me.July 17, 2009 at 4:09 am#137876942767ParticipantHi BD:
You say:
Quote I have been instructed to approach you a certain way because of certain sensitivities you possess, so keep in mind we must discuss what we discuss without you feeling resentment or uncertainty. By whom have you been instructed to approach me in a certain way because of certain sensitivities?
Love in Christ,
MartyJuly 18, 2009 at 4:28 am#137936bodhithartaParticipantQuote (942767 @ July 17 2009,16:09) Hi BD: You say:
Quote I have been instructed to approach you a certain way because of certain sensitivities you possess, so keep in mind we must discuss what we discuss without you feeling resentment or uncertainty. By whom have you been instructed to approach me in a certain way because of certain sensitivities?
Love in Christ,
Marty
Marty,By the instruction of God Almighty.
July 18, 2009 at 5:47 pm#137971KangarooJackParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ July 17 2009,14:33) Hi BD,
So your spirit tells you to criticise Jesus and the servants of God?
Nick,
Kinda like you except you don't criticize Jesus.thinker
July 18, 2009 at 7:15 pm#137981NickHassanParticipantHi TT,
Which of the proven servants of God have I criticised?
One of the prophets or apostles perhaps?
Never that I recall.July 20, 2009 at 12:09 am#138091942767ParticipantQuote (bodhitharta @ July 18 2009,16:28) Quote (942767 @ July 17 2009,16:09) Hi BD: You say:
Quote I have been instructed to approach you a certain way because of certain sensitivities you possess, so keep in mind we must discuss what we discuss without you feeling resentment or uncertainty. By whom have you been instructed to approach me in a certain way because of certain sensitivities?
Love in Christ,
Marty
Marty,By the instruction of God Almighty.
Hi BD:Well, if God has instructed you to do this or that, do as God instructed you. I don't feel any resentment over any thing that we have discussed. I have shared the truth with you out of my love for you. My desire is God's very best for you and your family.
Love in Christ,
MartyJuly 23, 2009 at 4:30 pm#138547KangarooJackParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ July 19 2009,07:15) Hi TT,
Which of the proven servants of God have I criticised?
One of the prophets or apostles perhaps?
Never that I recall.
So you are the judge of who is or is not a “proven” servant of God?thinker
July 23, 2009 at 9:08 pm#138591bodhithartaParticipantQuote (thethinker @ July 24 2009,04:30) Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 19 2009,07:15) Hi TT,
Which of the proven servants of God have I criticised?
One of the prophets or apostles perhaps?
Never that I recall.
So you are the judge of who is or is not a “proven” servant of God?thinker
Nick is being stupid in this regard. Who could know who is a servant of God?July 23, 2009 at 9:14 pm#138594NickHassanParticipantHi BD,
Carnal men imagine they are all sorts of things.July 23, 2009 at 9:16 pm#138598bodhithartaParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ July 24 2009,09:14) Hi BD,
Carnal men imagine they are all sorts of things.
Yes, you are correct but only God knows for sure.July 23, 2009 at 10:27 pm#138633NickHassanParticipantHi BD,
So living in hope tinged with doubt is sufficient for you?July 23, 2009 at 11:04 pm#138641bodhithartaParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ July 24 2009,10:27) Hi BD,
So living in hope tinged with doubt is sufficient for you?
Paul says:
Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.Is Paul right?
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