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- July 27, 2007 at 8:48 pm#80749elaine1809Participant
What I found on this subject I will like to share with you:
I have learned from scriptures that whatever comes out of GOD'S mouth won't come back without results: Isahia 55:11; Isahia 46:10; also learned that God does not Change his personality Malachi 3:6; also, that His original purpose for mankind it is still the same: it did not drastically changed because of Adam and Eve's sin. The earth was created by HIM especifically for humankind: Genesis 1:28-29; Psalm 104:5-35; Psalm 119:90; Isahia 45:18; Psalm 115:16. We can see how our Creator mentions, throughout the scriptures, HIS DIVINE purpose to give his MEEK[obedient] people the EARTH FOR EVER. Psalms 25:13; 37:9,22 – 34. The meek one will posses the earth: Mathew 5:5; Psalm 25:13, 37:9-34; Isahia 65:21-25. Also, Read REV 11:18. In Luke 12:32; Rev 14:1-4; 1Cor. 15:40-53; Rev. 5:9,10; Psalms 45:16; Isahia 32:1; 1Pet.1:23; John 3:3; Rev 7:3,4; Luke 22:28-30 God talks about the 144 thousand that will reign with Jesus over the whole Earth for ever. The 144 thousand out of the tribes of Israel will be transformed into heavenly bodies and will reign with Jesus over the rest of mankind on paradise Earth. comments?July 27, 2007 at 8:51 pm#80750NickHassanParticipantHi and welcome E1,
Good post.
One of the most popular myths of the world is that the final destiny of man is in heaven.July 27, 2007 at 9:34 pm#80751elaine1809ParticipantThank you, I used to belong to Jehovas Witnesses religion[baptized] But I dont believe everything they believe. as a matter of fact I am considered an apostate to them because I question everything they take for granted. In my opinion, they are the closest to the truth [as i know it]. They were the ones who show me THE FACTS about pagan holydays, tritnity etc. they were pivital in my life search for the truth. They have a lot of factual and hystory based knowledge about scriptures, but some of their core concepts and believes I do not find scriptural but man made. and that is why I am not with them. I want to worship our CREATOR without any manmade costumes involved.
July 27, 2007 at 9:35 pm#80752IM4TruthParticipantElaine 1809 and Nick You are right Nick, but there are also those multitudes of Rev. 7:9-17. Do you believe that those are spirit beings or flesh and body? I wonder about them. Are they not those that were killed because of what they believed. First by the Romans and then by the Cath. Church. That is what I believe, the main reason why they compromised when Constantine made the Universal Christian Church. They then adopted all the Holidays from the Pagans because it was more popular, and also changed the calendar. If you go to Germany you can still find the torture chambers under the Churches. They made Museums out of them.
Mrs.IM4TruthJuly 27, 2007 at 9:39 pm#80753elaine1809ParticipantSorry I did not know that it was going to be almost impossible to read my post in this light color blue I chose. I fixed it! I am from Puerto Rico have 5 teenage children and of course my first language is spanish so pardon my bad grammar in English. Thank you for answering my first post
July 27, 2007 at 9:44 pm#80754NickHassanParticipantHi E1,
Rev 7
' 1And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.2And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
3Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.
4And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
5Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand.
6Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Nephthalim were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses were sealed twelve thousand.
7Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand.
8Of the tribe of Zabulon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand.
9After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
10And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.
11And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,
12Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.
13And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
14And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
15Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.
16They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat.
17For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.'
The chapter starts with reference to earth.
Is this scene on earth?July 27, 2007 at 10:16 pm#80755TimothyVIParticipantQuote (elaine1809 @ July 28 2007,09:39) Sorry I did not know that it was going to be almost impossible to read my post in this light color blue I chose. I fixed it! I am from Puerto Rico have 5 teenage children and of course my first language is spanish so pardon my bad grammar in English. Thank you for answering my first post
Welcome Elaine,
What bad grammar?Tim
July 27, 2007 at 10:18 pm#80756elaine1809ParticipantHi I believe based on the reading , that these are the meek ones the ones that are going to inherit the paradise earth. note that it says that they came out of the great tribulation[ this is what the majority of churches refer to as the rapsody, or armaggedon. note that it says that it was “a great crowd that nobody was able to number” I am assuming millions of people. Notice on verses 16 and 17.it clearly refers to humans that have been suffering in this world. tha same ones that Jesus refers to in Mathew6:20:23. also, look at REv.21:1-4. notice that on verse 3 it says that GOD is with mankind and HE will RESIDE with them. comments? hope this helps
July 27, 2007 at 10:26 pm#80757elaine1809Participanttahnkyou TIM but there will be bad grammar soon in the near future
July 27, 2007 at 10:29 pm#80758Not3in1ParticipantWelcome Elaine!
I do believe we have a handful of women now on this site…..there for a while, I was outnumbered.
English is my first language and I still have bad grammar – no excuse for me.
July 27, 2007 at 10:36 pm#80759elaine1809ParticipantThank you Not3in1!! nice to meet you
July 27, 2007 at 10:41 pm#80760elaine1809ParticipantHi Nick I guess this scene is somewhere between heaven and earth… I dont know what you are asking.
July 27, 2007 at 10:55 pm#80761Adam PastorParticipantQuote (elaine1809 @ July 27 2007,23:18) Hi I believe based on the reading , that these are the meek ones the ones that are going to inherit the paradise earth. note that it says that they came out of the great tribulation[ this is what the majority of churches refer to as the rapsody, or armaggedon. note that it says that it was “a great crowd that nobody was able to number” I am assuming millions of people. Notice on verses 16 and 17.it clearly refers to humans that have been suffering in this world. tha same ones that Jesus refers to in Mathew6:20:23. also, look at REv.21:1-4. notice that on verse 3 it says that GOD is with mankind and HE will RESIDE with them. comments? hope this helps
Greetings ElaineSeeing that Spanish is your first language,
I recommend you have a look at some of the articles on the following page … may help to answer some of your questions.July 29, 2007 at 2:31 pm#80762acertainchapParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ July 28 2007,08:51) Hi and welcome E1,
Good post.
One of the most popular myths of the world is that the final destiny of man is in heaven.
Is THE most popular.February 5, 2008 at 1:59 am#80763NickHassanParticipant4.94
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