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Yes dear friends it that jolly time once again when “christians” celebrate the “sUn gods birthday”. Oh it's true but does it matter as long as we are celebrating Christ?
It matters to Christ. Calling a weed a rose does not make it a rose.
Jesus said: “For this I have been born, and for this I have come into the world, that I should bear witness to the truth.” (John 18:37)
Jesus was born to bear witness to the truth. And how does the world celebrate his birth? Humans have taken a pagan celebration and covered it with lies and called it a celebration to Christ (Christmas).
Remember when the Israelites made the golden calf and called it: “a festival to Jevovah.” It really wasn't a festival to Jehovah. It was idolatry.
Putting a Christian stamp on Paganism doesn't make the paganism disappear, but rather, it makes Christianity unclean.
Put poison in a glass of fresh water and the fresh water doesn't make the poison go away. It's still there.
Similarly, the Christmas tree, the holly, mistletoe, the giving of gifts, the date itself, are all connected to pagansim. Santa Claus has a pagan background and is a lie people tell their children. The date itself is a lie. The three wise men were actually an unspecified number of astrologers who arrive at the “house” where Jesus was staying some time later.Christmas has been around so long, people tend to not question it. This doesn't make it right. Jehovah knows and has seen the origins of these customs.
We are not commanded to celebrate his birth, but rather to remember his death, as that was why he came to earth, to provide the ransom sacrifice.
These were just some incoherent ramblings.
Quote (david @ Nov. 27 2005,22:37) It matters to Christ. Calling a weed a rose does not make it a rose.
Jesus said: “For this I have been born, and for this I have come into the world, that I should bear witness to the truth.” (John 18:37)
Jesus was born to bear witness to the truth. And how does the world celebrate his birth? Humans have taken a pagan celebration and covered it with lies and called it a celebration to Christ (Christmas).
Remember when the Israelites made the golden calf and called it: “a festival to Jevovah.” It really wasn't a festival to Jehovah. It was idolatry.
Putting a Christian stamp on Paganism doesn't make the paganism disappear, but rather, it makes Christianity unclean.
Put poison in a glass of fresh water and the fresh water doesn't make the poison go away. It's still there.
Similarly, the Christmas tree, the holly, mistletoe, the giving of gifts, the date itself, are all connected to pagansim. Santa Claus has a pagan background and is a lie people tell their children. The date itself is a lie. The three wise men were actually an unspecified number of astrologers who arrive at the “house” where Jesus was staying some time later.Christmas has been around so long, people tend to not question it. This doesn't make it right. Jehovah knows and has seen the origins of these customs.
We are not commanded to celebrate his birth, but rather to remember his death, as that was why he came to earth, to provide the ransom sacrifice.
These were just some incoherent ramblings.
Hi David,I couldn't agree more. As soon as the Spirit led me to that truth along with hell I stoped celebrating the holiday.
I like this scripture about the xmas tree:
Jer 10:1 Hear ye the word which the LORD speaketh unto you, O house of Israel:Jer 10:2 Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.
Jer 10:3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.
Jer 10:4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.Ijust wanted to post this because it is truth!
Hey Kenrch,
I haven't looked at this stuff for a while, but what I remember is that Druids used to worship evergreen trees. Holly and mistletoe are also plants that don't loose their greenage. (Is that a word?) They don't loose their leaves.
OK, let's take it back a step. In ancient times, people were much much more dependant on crops and the weather. They were very dependant on the sun. Many in fact worshipped it. When the days became shorter as the sun was out less and less, people became edgy, and they were quite superstitious.
Sympathetic magic, which is where you do one thing (I guess on a small scale) and it is supposed to happen on a larger scale is something they believed in. When the sun seemed to be dying, people would put candles up. They would cover their houses with light (in an effort to bring the sun back)
They held the evergreen tree as sacred because it didn't seem to die like most other plants during the winter.
Eventually, the candles made their ways onto the trees.Kenrch, what truth did you learn about hell?
Quote (david @ Nov. 27 2005,23:59) Hey Kenrch,
I haven't looked at this stuff for a while, but what I remember is that Druids used to worship evergreen trees. Holly and mistletoe are also plants that don't loose their greenage. (Is that a word?) They don't loose their leaves.
OK, let's take it back a step. In ancient times, people were much much more dependant on crops and the weather. They were very dependant on the sun. Many in fact worshipped it. When the days became shorter as the sun was out less and less, people became edgy, and they were quite superstitious.
Sympathetic magic, which is where you do one thing (I guess on a small scale) and it is supposed to happen on a larger scale is something they believed in. When the sun seemed to be dying, people would put candles up. They would cover their houses with light (in an effort to bring the sun back)
They held the evergreen tree as sacred because it didn't seem to die like most other plants during the winter.
Eventually, the candles made their ways onto the trees.Kenrch, what truth did you learn about hell?
David,
The bible doesn't support the doctrine of a firey hell. God is love not the devil.
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