One world government

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Georg … we meet again. You said:

“In the days of these kings/nations”, these nations are the “ten toes' how much time do you think we have left?

There is a segment within Christianity that believes in the concept of a “Revived Roman Empire” and that it was fulfilled in the formation of the EU … the “United States of Europe”.

What think ye?

March 4, 2010 at 11:20 am#325710

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selah

Nowhere in the Bible does it speak of a revival, or a resurrection of the Roman empire. What the Roman empire stood for, and all other empires was, a one world government; they all wanted to rule the whole world. That desire of course comes from Satan, as he has tried to take the rule away from God.
North America is a Continent with two nations, Europe is a Continent with many small nations. To form a EU is no different than what we already have, a united states. EU was formed to bring all the different nations together, to avoid conflict, to make trading easier, and travel.
Ever since Rome fell, there has not been a one world government, many attempts were made by the new kings of Europe, some were more successful then others; even the pope crowned some of them “Holy Roman emperor” because the pope saw himself as the real emperor of Rome.
Not until after WWI was the attempt made to create a new one world government, they called themselves, the LEAGUE OF NATION, but as the Bible said, it would last only a short time, Rev. 17:10, it lasted from 1918 – 1946.
The Bible also said that there would be an eighth beast coming out of the seven, v. 11, and it too will be destroyed. This eighth beast is what we have today, the UNITED NATION; it is the same beast as the seventh, it changed in name only.

Rev 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

What most people don't understand is, “ten”, is not the number of ten individuals, it is God's number of completion, of all included. One hour, meaning, a short time.

Rev 17:13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

See what it says, they have one mind, they all give their power to the beast, United Nation.
This government is mans last attempt to form a ONE world government, rule the world similar to the way the Roman s did, and we are in the process of accomplishing that under Obama.
The United Nation are the toes of the statue in Daniel

Dan 2:41 And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay.
Dan 2:44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

I will explain at another time what “setting up a kingdom” means.

Dan 2:34 Thou sawest till that a stone was cut out without hands, which smote the image upon his feet that were of iron and clay, and brake them to pieces.

If you have been watching the news, you will know that the world is in an self destruction mode right now.
How much time is left? I can only tell you what I read out of the Bible; Jesus said,

Mat 24:32 ¶ Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:

The Fig tree symbolises Israel, it put forth leaves in 1948.

Mat 24:33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
Mat 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

This generation began in 1948, the Bible tells us how long a generation is.

Psa 90:10 The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away.

Threescore years and ten, not much time left.

Georg

March 6, 2010 at 11:51 am#325711

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It really amazes me that, knowing we are in the “end time”; we hear it often enough mentioned by ministers of all denomination, and on top of that, Hollywood is giving us their version of the end time; that no one cares or dares, to ask questions.
Does any one realize that Obama is trying to get us into a ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT?
We, the US, are the only nation that has prevented that from happening already. Why? because we are the “ONLY” nation that has been governed so far, “off the people, by the people, for the people. All other nations are run by their governments.
Enjoy your freedom while you can.

Georg

March 10, 2010 at 6:08 am#325712

Participant

Georg,

If Obama is a key player as you say, what specific Revelation designation or identification do you believe he fits into?

March 10, 2010 at 6:56 am#325713

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selah

Rome was the last government that symbolised a “one world government”, it was “the beast that was, and was not”. Only after WWI, was the idea of a “one world government” implemented again by establishing the “LEAGUE OF NATION”. As prophesied, it did not last long, Rev. 17:10; out of “it” came the “UNITED NATION”, the eighth v. 11.
The attempt of the United Nation has been from the beginning, to rule the world by a “ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT”. The only Nation that has stood in the way of accomplishing that so far, is the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. We are a nation governed “of the people, by the people, and for the people”. All other nations are under the rule of “their government”. As you can see, Obama is trying to get US under the same umbrella.
This then fits right in what is written in

Ten is the number of completion, meaning, all included; the ten toes represent all the kings/nation, that belong to this government. It is mans last attempt to rule the world by this government/kings.
As you know from what is going on in the world, no government can rule their own nation, how can we expect them to rule the whole world?
It has been during the existence of these “kings” ten toes, that God has been setting up his kingdom.

Mind you it says “setting up”, that does not mean ruling yet.
I believe Obama will succeed in his attempt to bring us in to that circle, as scary as that may sound. America will not be the same; we will have chaos, to put it mildly; but it will not only be the U.S., it will be world wide. On top of that we will have to deal with natures disasters; how will those in need be helped, and by whom?

Jer 25:29 For, lo, I begin to bring evil on the city which is called by my name, and should ye be utterly unpunished? Ye shall not be unpunished: for I will call for a sword upon all the inhabitants of the earth, saith the LORD of hosts.

The city called by God's name is Jerusalem; it talks about the third tribulation on the Jews; if God will punish them for their evil, will he leave the rest of the world go unpunished? he will not.

Jer 25:30 ¶ Therefore prophesy thou against them all these words, and say unto them, The LORD shall roar from on high, and utter his voice from his holy habitation; he shall mightily roar upon his habitation; he shall give a shout, as they that tread the grapes, against all the inhabitants of the earth.

“Against ALL the inhabitants of the earth”.
If that does not frighten you, I don't know what would.

Jer 25:32 ¶ Thus saith the LORD of hosts, Behold, evil shall go forth from nation to nation, and a great whirlwind shall be raised up from the coasts of the earth.

Jer 25:33 And the slain of the LORD shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth: they shall not be lamented, neither gathered, nor buried; they shall be dung upon the ground.

Does “as in the days of Noah” come to mind? I understand now why Jesus said that.

Georg

March 11, 2010 at 6:03 am#325714

Participant

Georg,

I have had to alter my scenario more than a few times over the last 30 years as things have developed. You may have to do the same.

I think most commentators would agree that the UN is weak and without teeth.

Whereas the EU is far stronger and growing, and has a military arm within its structure.

I believe it was formed in the same year that Israel became a nation “in a day”. 1946.

It's first meeting, which consisted of 6 member nations, was held in the Vatican.

Not only that, but like Daniel noted, when it became ten a little horn would rise up among the ten … not in addition to them.

Daniel told us that this little horn was diverse from all the others.

This little horn was the Vatican Kingdom (a sovereign nation in itself) and most definitely diverse from all the other ten kingdoms.

The leader of that little horn was no other than John Paul II, and the whole world followed after the beast.

When we say “Roman Catholic” we are actually saying Roman Universal. And it surely has spread its tentacles into all parts of the world.

Be prepared to change Georg.
I am still prepared to change some of my scenario as events of the last days come to pass.

March 11, 2010 at 7:20 am#325715

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selah

The UN was formed in 1946, right after the collapse of the League of Nation.
Israel became a Nation again in 1948.
As you can see, the EU is about to collapse, just as the US is.

Dan 7:7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.

This beast/king/government is Rome. Ten is not a number of ten individuals, it is the number of all included.

Dan 7:24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

Out of all the kings of Rome, another shall arise, which will be different; how would he be different? He would not conquer with an army, he would conquer the world with lies, by deceit, with threads, by the superstition of the people. Yes, he is the pope, the Antichrist.

Dan 7:8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

Who were the three horns/kings plucked up by the roots? The three Germanic barbarian kings, the Vandals, the Heruli, and the Ostrogoth.

As long as you have an open mind, you will understand.

Georg

March 12, 2010 at 12:03 am#325716

Participant

Georg,

My mistake about Israel becoming a nation, it was 1948 as you said, and I believe it was May 13 … is that correct?

The EEC (EU) held its first meeting of the six original members in the Vatican in 1946. The six consisted of France, W. Germany, Italy, Belgium, Netherlands, Luxembourg.

The Treaty Of Rome (also held within the walls of the Vatican Kingdom) was signed on March 25, 1957.

You have claimed that the EU is about to collapse as is the US.

Georg, be careful what you predict. If these two things do not come to pass, should Christians consider you to be a false prophet?

Based upon Revelation's description of Mystery, Babylon, I have made the claim that this great city described in Revelation is Vatican City, and that God is going to destroy it, and it is to be an everlasting, burning witness to the world of God's power and of His prophecy.

If this does not come to pass, I am ready to be called a false prophet, are you?

March 12, 2010 at 1:15 am#325717

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selah

What I said about the EU and the US is not prophesying, it is observation from what I see and hear on TV news. Although it does fit right in with what is written in Daniel.

The EU has nothing to do with the ten toes because it is not the eighth coming out of the seventh beast.

Rev 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

The EU is a trading block, not a world ruling government like the United Nation wants to be.
You are right, the Vatican, holy sea, is the whore of Rev. 17:1. That false religion is not the only one that will be destroyed, but she has been most influential all over the world.

Georg

March 25, 2010 at 7:18 am#325718

springbranchsoulja

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elizabeth or er george.. I strongly agree with you i have noticed and researched on obama and his sorroundings and from my point of view.. he does have plans for this country..just like you said

March 27, 2010 at 6:10 am#325719

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I wish every body could have watched “Hal Lindsey Report” today; you can still do on his web side.

Georg

March 29, 2010 at 10:03 pm#325720

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Quote (Elizabeth @ Mar. 27 2010,18:10)

I wish every body could have watched “Hal Lindsey Report” today; you can still do on his web side.

Georg

georg

how can this statment be true;??

Rev 18:24 In her was found the blood of prophets and of the saints,
and of all who have been killed on the earth.”

March 30, 2010 at 7:49 am#325721

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terraricca

Although the focus of Rev. 18 is on the present Babylon, “Roman Catholic Church”, in reality, “HER”, includes “ALL” false religion over the millenniums. “SHE” is responsible for much of the blood shed.
How many religions demanded human sacrifice?
How many wars were fought between different religious groups?
How many wars were fought in the name of Christ?
How many lost their lives because they did not agree with the teachings of the church, RCC?

Rev 18:21 ¶ And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.

The millstone symbolises not only the RCC, and her daughters, it represents “all” false religion. In the millennium Jesus will do away with all of them, never to be practised again.

Georg

March 30, 2010 at 4:53 pm#325722

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Quote (Elizabeth @ Mar. 30 2010,19:49)

terraricca

The millstone symbolises not only the RCC, and her daughters, it represents “all” false religion. In the millennium Jesus will do away with all of them, never to be practised again.

Georg

georg

it did not answer the question,

Rev 18:24 In her was found the blood of prophets and of the saints,
and of all who have been killed on the earth.———

now georg i do not try to argue ,i just like the scripture to be true in is statement.

and the roman catholic church cannot be responsible for the dead before it self appears.

i think

April 16, 2010 at 9:52 am#325724

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terraricca

Are you trying to take away the focus of the “one world government”?

Georg

April 20, 2010 at 3:31 am#325725

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Quote (Elizabeth @ April 16 2010,21:52)

terraricca

Are you trying to take away the focus of the “one world government”?

Georg

georg

no not it all,everything is so entwined that separation does not give truth.

April 20, 2010 at 11:23 am#325726

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Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 31 2010,04:53)

Quote (Elizabeth @ Mar. 30 2010,19:49)

terraricca

The millstone symbolises not only the RCC, and her daughters, it represents “all” false religion. In the millennium Jesus will do away with all of them, never to be practised again.

Georg

georg

it did not answer the question,

Rev 18:24 In her was found the blood of prophets and of the saints,
and of all who have been killed on the earth.———

now georg i do not try to argue ,i just like the scripture to be true in is statement.

and the roman catholic church cannot be responsible for the dead before it self appears.

i think

Then why did you bring this up? what is the connection?

Georg

April 20, 2010 at 11:22 pm#325723

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Quote (Elizabeth @ April 20 2010,23:23)

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 31 2010,04:53)

Quote (Elizabeth @ Mar. 30 2010,19:49)

terraricca

The millstone symbolises not only the RCC, and her daughters, it represents “all” false religion. In the millennium Jesus will do away with all of them, never to be practised again.

Georg

georg

it did not answer the question,

Rev 18:24 In her was found the blood of prophets and of the saints,
and of all who have been killed on the earth.———

now georg i do not try to argue ,i just like the scripture to be true in is statement.

and the roman catholic church cannot be responsible for the dead before it self appears.

i think

Then why did you bring this up? what is the connection?

Georg

georg

revelation 17 and 18 deals with about the same thing so i pointed out that scriptures should be true,

the expression of false religion only point out the finger to someone else,but anything away from God is false.

April 21, 2010 at 4:03 am#325727