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- April 10, 2015 at 10:57 am#793469bodhithartaParticipant
There is no “god of this world” There is only God Almighty, where did you go wrong?
April 10, 2015 at 10:59 am#793470bodhithartaParticipantHi Nick
Is this why you think there are all these gods and why you think ALLAH is not God Almighty, bet to realize the Shema of Israel
April 10, 2015 at 11:04 am#793471NickHassanParticipantHi BD,
If you do not recognise the god of this world perhaps you should.
Scripture does
April 10, 2015 at 11:12 am#793472kerwinParticipantBodhithara,
The god of this world is the god those of the world worship. From what I see it is not God Almighty. Their God is a false God just as the gods of Egypt were.
April 10, 2015 at 11:24 am#793479kerwinParticipantNick,
Hi KW,
Who gave you the right to evaluate and apportion blame to sins?
The Spirit gives that authority by some things are so obvious that even a non believer can see them.
You already know Jesus taught us to seek God’s righteousness and his kingdom.
April 10, 2015 at 11:46 am#793485NickHassanParticipantHi KW,
Should we consult you about the seriousness of any sin?
Real sin is unbelief.
Jn 16.9
April 10, 2015 at 4:19 pm#793499bodhithartaParticipantHi Kerwin
The god of this world is the god those of the world worship. From what I see it is not God Almighty. Their God is a false God just as the gods of Egypt were.
I agree that there are false gods but when a person uses the term “god” for something or someone without the acknowledgement that they are indeed “false gods” I don’t even acknowledge their entire comment because there are no TRUE “gods, There is no god but GOD
April 10, 2015 at 4:50 pm#793502NickHassanParticipantHi BD,
You have been drawn away to serve another god.
As this God is not the God of the Jews it would be false-true?
April 10, 2015 at 5:30 pm#793510kerwinParticipantNick,
Hi KW,
Should we consult you about the seriousness of any sin?
Real sin is unbelief.
Jn 16.9
Sin is the fruit of the flesh(carnal) or soulish nature of man.
Christians can overcome it by living by the Spirit of God.
They receive and live by the Spirit.
You should read my post better as I avoided wording them in a way to show that God does not necessarily see one sin as greater than another but I treat phantasy as a lesser sin than actually do it. That is because I would rather a man fantasize about a murder than actually commit it but it would be far better if he did not even fantasize about it.
April 10, 2015 at 5:39 pm#793511kerwinParticipantBodhitharta,
In the way Scripture uses statement “god of this world” it would be blaspheme if applied to the one true God. It is speaking of the one the soulish worship and perhaps even one who “created” the world of sin by first tempting Eve and then through her Adam to sin.
April 10, 2015 at 6:30 pm#793514NickHassanParticipantHi KW,
You persist in categorising sins.
Leave it to God.
April 10, 2015 at 6:40 pm#793516kerwinParticipantNick,
God did categorize sins under the the Law of Mosses but all sin is lawbreaking.
April 10, 2015 at 7:18 pm#793521NickHassanParticipantHi KW,
But when did you get given the job?
Jn 16.9
April 10, 2015 at 9:22 pm#793531NickHassanParticipantHi,
The old and new testaments teach that none of his bones were broken.
But BD asks
“Is it possible to have a crucifixion without breaking any bone in the hand or feet?”
Should logic be our teacher?
April 10, 2015 at 11:31 pm#793534kerwinParticipantNick,
I did not say I was given the job.
Why are you serving the devil?
You are looking for sin where it does not exist.
It is wise to remove the beam from your own eye.
Islam is a false teaching but Trinitarianism is a false teaching that also blasphemes God. If you want to pick and choose the False Prophet of the last days they make a much better candidate. Ed clearly suffers from Islamophobia as he makes accusation based on his fear and not evidence. I doubt either the teachings of Islam or the Trinity are the teachings of the False Prophet of Revelations. The False Prophet could come and teach salvation through medicine or any other teaching is against Christ and is easily swallowed by those that love darkness.
Do you agree with his accusations?
April 11, 2015 at 1:36 am#793538bodhithartaParticipantHi Kerwin
Islam is a false teaching but Trinitarianism is a false teaching that also blasphemes God. If you want to pick and choose the False Prophet of the last days they make a much better candidate. Ed clearly suffers from Islamophobia as he makes accusation based on his fear and not evidence. I doubt either the teachings of Islam or the Trinity are the teachings of the False Prophet of Revelations. The False Prophet could come and teach salvation through medicine or any other teaching is against Christ and is easily swallowed by those that love darkness.
When you came to the conclusion that Islam was a false teaching, how did you arrive at that conclusion?
For instance Jews consider it valid and do believe that Muslims worship the same God that they Worship
which is the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob as well as Moses.do you view the Jews as condemned? as they do not accept ANY part of Christianity, yet we know they worship God properly according to Jesus himself
April 11, 2015 at 1:48 am#793542bodhithartaParticipantHi,
The old and new testaments teach that none of his bones were broken.
But BD asks
“Is it possible to have a crucifixion without breaking any bone in the hand or feet?”
Should logic be our teacher?
The easiest explanation is he wasn’t crucified or killed in what you consider the prophecy see the context
Psalm 34
19 Many are the afflictions of the righteous, But the LORD delivers him out of them all.
20He keeps all his bones, Not one of them is broken.
21Evil shall slay the wicked, And those who hate the righteous will be condemned.…Do you see that “Evil shall slay the wicked” we know that Jesus was not wicked so who did evil, slay? Notice it says “and those who hate the righteous” They plotted against Jesus because he was righteous but God delivered him.
Surah 3:54-55
54And (the unbelievers) plotted and planned, and Allah too planned, and the best of planners is Allah.
55Behold! Allah said: “O Jesus! I will take thee and raise thee to Myself and clear thee (of the falsehoods) of those who blaspheme; I will make those who follow thee superior to those who reject faith, to the Day of Resurrection: Then shall ye all return unto me, and I will judge between you of the matters wherein ye dispute.
April 11, 2015 at 1:54 am#793543bodhithartaParticipantHi nick
Hi BD,
You have been drawn away to serve another god.
As this God is not the God of the Jews it would be false-true?
They say: “Become Jews or Christians if ye would be guided (To salvation).” Say thou: “Nay! (I would rather) the Religion of Abraham the True, and he joined not gods with Allah.”
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #135)
And We brought the Children of Israel (with safety) across the sea, and they came upon a people devoted to some of their idols (in worship). They said: “O Musa (Moses)! Make for us an ilah (a god) as they have alihah (gods).” He said: “Verily, you are a people who know not (the Majesty and Greatness of Allah and what is obligatory upon you, i.e. to worship none but Allah Alone, the One and the Only God of all that exists).”
( سورة الأعراف , Al-Araf, Chapter #7, Verse #138)
April 11, 2015 at 2:13 am#793547bodhithartaParticipantHi BD,
Yes
That day.
gen 5.5
ps 90.4
2 peter 3.8
Genesis5:5 Thus all the days that Adam lived were 930 years, and he died.
If he died the same day why is it written “ALL THE DAYS” the truth is he didn’t die that day because God forgave him
Then learnt Adam from his Lord words of inspiration, and his Lord Turned towards him; for He is Oft-Returning, Most Merciful.
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #37)
2 peter 3.8 But do not overlook this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
Your solution was that God was talking about 1000 years as a day, the problem with your explanation is Adam and Eve would not be able to comprehend 1000 years as a day and when Adam was hiding he was hiding ON THE DAY he ate the fruit so he knew exactly what “ON THAT DAY” meant, the truth is God gave him respite just as with Cain no vengence was carried out on him either.
Ps 90.4 same answer doesn’t apply to Adam
April 11, 2015 at 6:35 am#793554kerwinParticipantBodhitharta,
The world was created in six nights and days and yet earth itself had no day until God separated its the day its night on the Fourth Night and Day. It seems that God’s “day” is when God says it is a day. The 1000 year argument is to presumptuous as it assumes every time God states a day he means a thousand years
Despite that fact that the Sun and moon are lit on the Fourth Night and Day in order to rule over the Day and the Night respectively many insist the days of creation were basic a 24 hour period because that is the length of the night and day they know and that is what they were taught.
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