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- May 13, 2010 at 7:45 pm#191827SimplyForgivenParticipant
As I am seeing more and more, that Nick Hassan has questioned every single point mentioned, and than judges one and than thats it.
Answering one question from Nick, leads to a rebuttle of another question from nick which becomes the unending cycle of questions and more questions.
For those who call themselves anti-trins, do ya has a community i guess, accpet Nick arguements, or do ya enjoy
his riducule of other peoples ideas? Do you think its fair the way he argues, without expressing ideas to also argue back. Its like saying the sky is blue, and he answeres why? and i say because of this and that, and he says why? but? if?Do you see his points as a valid arguement?
Do you see him as part of the anti trinitarion view?Here is a small study on Nick
1) He will always say hi
2)He will than ask a question,
3) He will ignore arguements, and points that are directly at him, and pick and choose qoutes
4) He rarely expresses his ideas
5) when he does he never brings claims for his ideas
6) He claims that are those that are lost
7) but he doesnt care enough to show them the way to truth
8) He is willing to only take parts of scripture
9) He has never expressed a full idea in a thread
10) If he is right, does he care that he believes that im going to hell?I guess this goes back to my basic point, not that im condemning him in any way, I have much love for the brother,
but it makes me think, lets say im wrong, and im believed to go to hell,
Why doesnt Nick care? If he says that He loves God, and has a communion with God and the holy scriptures, why isnt he willing to come help me?
The reason there are debates here, because everyone is scared for there very soul, because if they are wrong about a truth that they held as the center of their life, than there is a chance of Hell.
And if everyone is right than that too is also wrong, because not all contradicting statments can be true,
What if everyone is wrong and only God is right, and we only believe in him, and we humble ourselves to His Truth.
Jesus said for us to denie ourselves, Matthew 16:24
Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.follow Christ….
What do ya think,
With much love, i really hope im not insulting everyone.
I pray that God can help us all. Because he loves everysingle one of us.
May 13, 2010 at 8:28 pm#191828NickHassanParticipantHi SF,
Should we start a thread on you?May 13, 2010 at 8:32 pm#191829NickHassanParticipantHi,
The Spirit is the teacher and Scripture is the truth.
We are just moderators assisting in the the search of sacred scripture
Those unwisely settled on weak foundations need questions as they are not ready for answers.Is this not so?
May 13, 2010 at 8:40 pm#191830SimplyForgivenParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 14 2010,08:28) Hi SF,
Should we start a thread on you?
Hi,
The Spirit is the teacher and Scripture is the truth.
We are just moderators assisting in the the search of sacred scripture
Those unwisely settled on weak foundations need questions as they are not ready for answers.Is this not so?
you can if you must.Explain your point.
What is your foundation?You havent answered any of my questions why?
May 13, 2010 at 8:42 pm#191831NickHassanParticipantHi SF,
Vessels are not important.
Entry to the kingdom is what enables.May 13, 2010 at 8:45 pm#191832SimplyForgivenParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 14 2010,08:42) Hi SF,
Vessels are not important.
Entry to the kingdom is what enables.
How can i enter, if whom says have the truth, cannot express himself.May 13, 2010 at 8:48 pm#191833NickHassanParticipantHi SF,
Then search the scriptures.
Mt6, Jn3, Jn10, acts 2 and the rest of Acts will help.May 13, 2010 at 8:50 pm#191834SimplyForgivenParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 14 2010,08:48) Hi SF,
Then search the scriptures.
Mt6, Jn3, Jn10, acts 2 and the rest of Acts will help.
And i have read the scriptures many times,Now that you mentioned that, Last night and the night before,
I happend to literally read all those scriptures you mentioned.So what is your point with that?
I have read it.
now what?
May 13, 2010 at 8:51 pm#191835NickHassanParticipantHi SF,
What did they teach you?
How did you respond?May 13, 2010 at 8:55 pm#191836NickHassanParticipantHi SF,
Scripture is the wisdom of God.[Lk11]
God promises to give wisdom to all who ask[Jas1]
The words of scripture are spirit and life to those who love them.
Man cannot live on bread alone but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.God can help you.
May 13, 2010 at 8:56 pm#191837SimplyForgivenParticipantLol thats my point,
Than why do we disagree?May 13, 2010 at 8:59 pm#191838Worshipping JesusParticipantQuote (SimplyForgiven @ May 13 2010,16:40) Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 14 2010,08:28) Hi SF,
Should we start a thread on you?
Hi,
The Spirit is the teacher and Scripture is the truth.
We are just moderators assisting in the the search of sacred scripture
Those unwisely settled on weak foundations need questions as they are not ready for answers.Is this not so?
you can if you must.Explain your point.
What is your foundation?You havent answered any of my questions why?
SFNick will not engage in any serious dialogue.
This is what I know of Nick.
- He believes Jesus was God and then ceased to be God and now is a mere man like us in everyway.
- He believes that Jesus was born again at the Jordan.
- He believes that the Holy Spirit is not a person but rather a “finger of God”.
- He believes the scriptures are corrupt and that Matt 28:19 is not inspired but was added to the text.
- He believes in a hell where men will be tormented for ever and ever.
- He believes that a man must be water baptised to be saved and recieve the Spirit.
- He believes there are “other gods” spoken of in scripture of which Jesus is one of them.
- He believes Jesus became the Begotten Son of God at the Jordan baptism.
Thats all I can think of at the moment.
Blessings WJ
May 13, 2010 at 9:01 pm#191839NickHassanParticipantHi WJ,
Wrong on several matters.
Where does scripture teach trinity?May 13, 2010 at 9:03 pm#191840Worshipping JesusParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 13 2010,17:01) Hi WJ,
Wrong on several matters.
Where does scripture teach trinity?
NHWhich matters? Have you changed your views? I have had these discussions with you in depth in the past!
Enlighten us!
WJ
May 13, 2010 at 9:06 pm#191841SimplyForgivenParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 14 2010,09:01) Hi WJ,
Wrong on several matters.
Where does scripture teach trinity?
Teach Nick, TeachMay 13, 2010 at 9:17 pm#191842NickHassanParticipantHi SF,
No let men take scripture seriously and seek the teaching Spirit of truth[1Jn2]May 13, 2010 at 9:31 pm#191843NickHassanParticipantHi WJ,
We learn as we walk.
Have you learned to teach what is written?trinity is not written
May 13, 2010 at 9:50 pm#191844Worshipping JesusParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 13 2010,17:31) Hi WJ,
We learn as we walk.
Have you learned to teach what is written?trinity is not written
NHA Trinity is written. But you do not accept the masters word or the inspiration of the scriptures.
Mattew 28:19
WJ
May 13, 2010 at 9:54 pm#191845NickHassanParticipantHi WJ,
How does that verse teach any form of trinity and where are the supporting verses?May 13, 2010 at 10:03 pm#191846Worshipping JesusParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 13 2010,17:54) Hi WJ,
How does that verse teach any form of trinity and where are the supporting verses?
NHWhy should I give you any explanation on a verse you believe is invalid? You and T can hold hands as you get the white out and blot it out of your Bible!
WJ
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