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Quote (Cubes @ July 07 2006,22:59) | Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 08 2006,03:44) | Hi cubes and kenrch, The Nephilim are not of God's original plan for creation it would seem. They are all the fruit of rebellion. Enoch suggests they are the demons of esrth and not in a prison but many will not accept such information. Would God offer salvation to them?? |
I can't see demons being preached to, no. But I can see hybrids being preached to IF they are not demons!
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Thanks Cubes,
The more we study this it seems to point that the sons of God were men (just as David said). There is no mention of monsters coming out of those sons of God. Genesis 6:5-7 confirms what you are saying. God repented that He made MAN. Nothing is said about a hybird. As I told Nick there is a another “theroy”. They say that the sons of God were the decendents of Seth and the daughters of men were CANAANITES. Mixing the sons of Seth, [who took the place of Able] with the decendents of Cain. Well the flood “destroyed” all flesh which would mean the sons of God ( the Sethites?) and also the Canaanites would have to been destroted. Seems (my idea) that Noah was a decended of Seth. So the decendents of Seth came over with the ark. Since Noah was pure then the Canaanites would have been wiped out. I don't know about that either. Anyways the Canaanites are in scripture after the flood, which would have ment that one of Noah's daughter in laws were part Canaanite. It doesn't fit for me. Maybe you see it differently and let me know what I don't see. They site this scripture as proof that the sons of God were men. Gen 4:26 And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enosh. Then began men to call upon the name of Jehovah. Here is part of the commentary: Two Hebrew terms. I. Nephilim; Hebrew “those who fall on” men; men of violence, robbers, tyrants; compare Gen_6:13, “the earth is filled with violence through them.” Applied to antediluvians (Gen_6:4). Distinct from the gibbowrim, “mighty men of old, men of renown,” the offspring of the intermarriage of the “sons of God” (the Sethites, Gen_4:26, margin” then men began to call themselves by the name of the Lord”; Deu_14:1-2; Psa_73:15; Pro_14:26; Hos_1:10; Rom_8:14) and the “daughters of men.” The Sethites, the church separated from the surrounding world lying in the wicked one, had been the salt of the earth; but when even they intermarried with the corrupted races around the salt lost its savor, there was no seasoning of the universal corruption; (compare Exo_34:16; Ezr_10:3-19; Neh_13:23-28; Deu_7:3; 1Ki_11:1-4;) a flood alone could sweep away the festering mass, out of which one godly seed alone, Noah, was saved. The problem is I “thought” God didn't call a people for Himself until Abraham. Gen 26:5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws
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Hi Ken:
We agree then that according to scripture, nothing was said about destroying the earth because of hybrids. That's one off the back burner, bro Kenrch! Genesis 6:5-7.
The next thing to look at is the SONS OF GOD. According to the blb.org KJV English Concordance, here are the renditions of all the exact OT mentions of the “Sons of God”:
Gen 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they [were] fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
Gen 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare [children] to them, the same [became] mighty men which [were] of old, men of renown.
Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.
Job 2:1 Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the LORD.
Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
All are references to angels. In the NT, all such references are to the redeemed that are born again by the Spirit of God. Fascinating, is it not?
So, as far as I am concerned, Genesis 6:2, 4 refer to angels and the Seth theory does not pan out.
Secondly, Canaan is a grandson of Noah by way of Ham. Noah didn't have any grandchildren until after the flood.
So Canaanites didn't exist at the time of the flood except potentially in the loins of Ham, and therefore could not have been wiped out then in the flood. After the flood is another story.
I agree that God first called a people to himself through Abraham and his Seed. Amen! And yes, Noah is descended from Seth. Genesis 5
SETH, Enos, CAINAN, Mahalaleel, Jared, ENOCH, Methuselah, Lamech, NOAH.