My thoughts on the godhead

[Ed J]

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Psa 68:9  You, O God, sent a plentiful rain, by which You upheld Your inheritance when it was weary. Psa 68:10  Your flock has dwelt in it; You, O God, have prepared in Your goodness for the poor. Psa 68:11  The Lord gave the Word; the bearers of it were a great army. The Lord gave the Word, and when He was born He was called Jesus and yes, a great army bears that name!

Hi Oxy,

What English version is this you Post?
Do you read this English version on a regular basis?

Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Oxy]

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Quote (Oxy @ July 15 2010,18:22) Psa 68:9  You, O God, sent a plentiful rain, by which You upheld Your inheritance when it was weary. Psa 68:10  Your flock has dwelt in it; You, O God, have prepared in Your goodness for the poor. Psa 68:11  The Lord gave the Word; the bearers of it were a great army. The Lord gave the Word, and when He was born He was called Jesus and yes, a great army bears that name! Hi Oxy, What English version is this you Post? Do you read this English version on a regular basis? Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

I use the Modern King James Ed, along with 7 other versions including the old King James.

[Ed J]

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Quote (Oxy @ July 15 2010,18:22) Psa 68:9  You, O God, sent a plentiful rain, by which You upheld Your inheritance when it was weary. Psa 68:10  Your flock has dwelt in it; You, O God, have prepared in Your goodness for the poor. Psa 68:11  The Lord gave the Word; the bearers of it were a great army. The Lord gave the Word, and when He was born He was called Jesus and yes, a great army bears that name! Hi Oxy, What English version is this you Post? Do you read this English version on a regular basis? Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Hi Oxy,

Which one did you Post here?

Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[RokkaMan]

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Quote (Ed J @ July 15 2010,19:46) Quote (Oxy @ July 15 2010,18:22) Psa 68:9  You, O God, sent a plentiful rain, by which You upheld Your inheritance when it was weary. Psa 68:10  Your flock has dwelt in it; You, O God, have prepared in Your goodness for the poor. Psa 68:11  The Lord gave the Word; the bearers of it were a great army. The Lord gave the Word, and when He was born He was called Jesus and yes, a great army bears that name! Hi Oxy, What English version is this you Post? Do you read this English version on a regular basis? Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Hi Oxy, Which one did you Post here? Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

The Word of God is God Revealed.

Many people have attempted to reveal God through books, preaching and prophecy.

So yes, great is the army.

Jesus Christ, however, was the direct embodiment of The Word of God.

He was literally, Immanuel.

God With Us.

He revealed God in his personage.
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If Jesus revealed God perfectly, in which he did….

Then he truly 'IS' The Word of God manifested.

Does it make him God? No, absolutely not…

but to mimic God perfectly through obedience and abstinence of sin, makes him The Word of God.

God Revealed.
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No one has ever accomplished this feat except Jesus Christ.

[Ed J]

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Quote (Ed J @ July 15 2010,21:10) Quote (Ed J @ July 15 2010,19:46) Quote (Oxy @ July 15 2010,18:22) Psa 68:9  You, O God, sent a plentiful rain, by which You upheld Your inheritance when it was weary. Psa 68:10  Your flock has dwelt in it; You, O God, have prepared in Your goodness for the poor. Psa 68:11  The Lord gave the Word; the bearers of it were a great army. The Lord gave the Word, and when He was born He was called Jesus and yes, a great army bears that name! Hi Oxy, What English version is this you Post? Do you read this English version on a regular basis? Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Hi Oxy, Which one did you Post here? Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org The Word of God is God Revealed. Many people have attempted to reveal God through books, preaching and prophecy. So yes, great is the army.

Hi RokkaMan,

Perhaps then you can tell me who's 'version' this is?

Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Hi RM,
Of course you should not forget the wonderful human vessel for God as Spirit.

[NickHassan]

Hi RM,
So we should discern between Jesus the man, the son of man, and Jesus Christ [the anointed Jesus]

[RokkaMan]

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Hi RM, So we should discern between Jesus the man, the son of man, and Jesus Christ [the anointed Jesus]

huh?

[Ed J]

Quote (RokkaMan @ July 16 2010,17:26)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 16 2010,14:25) Hi RM, So we should discern between Jesus the man, the son of man, and Jesus Christ [the anointed Jesus] huh?

Hi RokkaMan,

What version did David post?
Since you're going to consider it truth?

Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Oxy]

Hi RM and everyone else, is Jesus God? That's a really good question. Lets look at that a bit closer:

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 He was in the beginning with God.

So we see that before Jesus was born He was the Word of God and was with God and was God. How can that be? Exactly the same way as our soul is with us and is us. (along with the flesh and our spirit of course)

Heb 2:9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honor, that He by the grace of God should taste death for all.

Here (above) we see that Jesus was born as man, made a little lower than the angels, so no longer God. And then He prayed…..

Joh 17:5 And now Father, glorify Me with Yourself with the glory which I had with You before the world was.

In the beginning His glory was that He was with God and was God before the world was. Did His prayer get answered?

Yes it did! Rev 19:13 And He had been clothed in a garment dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God.

So yes, Jesus is God, even though for His time on earth He only represented God.

[Ed J]

Quote (Oxy @ July 18 2010,16:25)

Hi RM and everyone else, is Jesus God?  That's a really good question.  Lets look at that a bit closer: Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Joh 1:2  He was in the beginning with God. So we see that before Jesus was born He was the Word of God and was with God and was God.  How can that be?  Exactly the same way as our soul is with us and is us. (along with the flesh and our spirit of course) Heb 2:9  But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honor, that He by the grace of God should taste death for all. Here (above) we see that Jesus was born as man, made a little lower than the angels, so no longer God.  And then He prayed….. Joh 17:5  And now Father, glorify Me with Yourself with the glory which I had with You before the world was. In the beginning His glory was that He was with God and was God before the world was.  Did His prayer get answered? Yes it did!  Rev 19:13  And He had been clothed in a garment dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God. So yes, Jesus is God, even though for His time on earth He only represented God.

Hi Oxy,

What version are you Posting?

Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Oxy]

Told you already, Modern King James

[RokkaMan]

OXY I agree to some degree but not entirely.

I agree The Word of God is god, but it doesn't encompass the totality of God.

because the word of God, is shown to be…God Revealed to creation.

That means, The Word of God is as highly close to YHVH himself that creation can possibly perceive.

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Understanding that, The Word of God isn't YHVH himself in totality, but is in fact YHVH expressing (revealing) himself to creation.

So to understand Jesus began as The Word of God, he is God revealed to creation…but he isn't The Source himself, that is YHVH.

He comes from YHVH, he is a piece of the source but not the source itself.

Now when I say this I am referring to The Word of God…
Jesus Christ the man was The Word manifested…

so all this should be understood accordingly.

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Jesus was not God when he was on earth, rather he was a manifestation of God equivelant (argueably greater) to The Angel of the Lord in the OT.
———

But pre and post existence as The Word of God…he is, understood to be God Revealed but not exactly God himself.

———-

The best way to understand it, is how scripture explains it….

He is a reflection of YHVH…a reflection of an object doesn't have the full properties of an object, but it shows you all the object would like to reveal in that reflection.

So this doesn't make Jesus = to YHVH because he CAME FROM YHVH.

All his abilities and authority was given by YHVH.
He was crowned to be God for a while, for his sacrifice.

sounds like a way to spite satan imo.

but eventually we'll see Jesus/The Word of God giving everything back to YHVH himself so that God may be all in all.

[RokkaMan]

So we are to worship and adore Jesus for who he is…
The literal only begotten Son of God who gave his life for all mankind….

nothing more, nothing less.

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His death in fact was YHVH's statement that, YHVH would die for us.

because he put to death, his own image for us…

without his image, how could we even perceive his true existence?

How could we know God for who he really is?

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So if you're wondering the significance of Christ's death, it truly was YHVH's statement, that he would die for us.

[NickHassan]

Hi RM,
Are you not yet united to him?

[Oxy]

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OXY I agree to some degree but not entirely. I agree The Word of God is god, but it doesn't encompass the totality of God. because the word of God, is shown to be…God Revealed to creation. That means, The Word of God is as highly close to YHVH himself that creation can possibly perceive. ———- Understanding that, The Word of God isn't YHVH himself in totality, but is in fact YHVH expressing (revealing) himself to creation. So to understand Jesus began as The Word of God, he is God revealed to creation…but he isn't The Source himself, that is YHVH. He comes from YHVH, he is a piece of the source but not the source itself. Now when I say this I am referring to The Word of God… Jesus Christ the man was The Word manifested… so all this should be understood accordingly. ——— Jesus was not God when he was on earth, rather he was a manifestation of God equivelant (argueably greater) to The Angel of the Lord in the OT. ——— But pre and post existence as The Word of God…he is, understood to be God Revealed but not exactly God himself. ———- The best way to understand it, is how scripture explains it…. He is a reflection of YHVH…a reflection of an object doesn't have the full properties of an object, but it shows you all the object would like to reveal in that reflection. So this doesn't make Jesus = to YHVH because he CAME FROM YHVH. All his abilities and authority was given by YHVH. He was crowned to be God for a while, for his sacrifice. sounds like a way to spite satan imo. but eventually we'll see Jesus/The Word of God giving everything back to YHVH himself so that God may be all in all.

I totally agree with your post.

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