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Quote (Oxy @ July 12 2010,18:47) Ed? Nick? lol, oh well. So how does one achieve such a belief? And what should I have faith in?
Hi Oxy,There is no such thing as no faith. Either
you will have faith in God or something else.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi Ed, that wasn't really the question. If I remember correctly the conversation was about how one obtains the faith that comes by hearing.
Quote (Oxy @ July 14 2010,19:39) Hi Ed, that wasn't really the question. If I remember correctly the conversation was about how one obtains the faith that comes by hearing.
Hi Oxy,Keep asking questions Oxy, that's how you learn! (Matt.7:7 / 2Tm.2:13)
Faith is: Action based upon belief sustained by confidence.
You get confidence based on YHVH's proven track record,
and confidence produces righteous actions, understand?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Oxy @ July 14 2010,20:14) Sorry, but how do I put that into practice?
Hi Oxy,Please clarify your question?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi Oxy,
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I explained that to you four Posts up —Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgYou said:
Faith is: Action based upon belief sustained by confidence.
You get confidence based on YHVH's proven track record,
and confidence produces righteous actions, understand?What is the track record you are talking about? I'm presuming you mean the Scriptures?
But the Scriptures say Rom 10:17 Then faith is of hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.
I READ the Scriptures, but I HEAR the Word.. the same Word that became flesh and was called Jesus.
Quote (Oxy @ July 14 2010,20:32) You said:
Faith is: Action based upon belief sustained by confidence.
You get confidence based on YHVH's proven track record,
and confidence produces righteous actions, understand?What is the track record you are talking about? I'm presuming you mean the Scriptures?
But the Scriptures say Rom 10:17 Then faith is of hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.
I READ the Scriptures, but I HEAR the Word.. the same Word that became flesh and was called Jesus.
Amen.Quote (Oxy @ July 14 2010,20:32) You said:
Faith is: Action based upon belief sustained by confidence.
You get confidence based on YHVH's proven track record,
and confidence produces righteous actions, understand?What is the track record you are talking about? I'm presuming you mean the Scriptures?
But the Scriptures say Rom 10:17 Then faith is of hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.
I READ the Scriptures, but I HEAR the Word.. the same Word that became flesh and was called Jesus.
Hi Oxy,The reason you are confused is you believe “The Word” to be something other than Scriptures!
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgI am not at all confused by what I believe Ed, I am however totally confused as to what you believe and how it works. My Bible tells me that the Word became flesh. I have not yet read where Mary gave birth to a book.
Quote (Oxy @ July 15 2010,17:23) I am not at all confused by what I believe Ed, I am however totally confused as to what you believe and how it works. My Bible tells me that the Word became flesh. I have not yet read where Mary gave birth to a book.
Hi Oxy,The “HolySpirit” (in essence) wrote The Bible,
which is the expression of himself: “The Word”.The HolySpirit also first (after Adam's fall) became flesh in Jesus,
now in “ALL BELIEVERS” IN HIM!! (Matt.10:20 / Mark 13:11 / Luke 12:12)Romans 8:16-17 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit,
that we are the children of God: And if children, then heirs;
heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we
suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
Does this help your understanding of the “HolySpirit”?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ July 15 2010,19:43) Quote (Oxy @ July 15 2010,17:23) I am not at all confused by what I believe Ed, I am however totally confused as to what you believe and how it works. My Bible tells me that the Word became flesh. I have not yet read where Mary gave birth to a book.
Hi Oxy,The “HolySpirit” (in essence) wrote The Bible,
which is the expression of himself: “The Word”.The HolySpirit also first (after Adam's fall) became flesh in Jesus,
now in “ALL BELIEVERS” IN HIM!! (Matt.10:20 / Mark 13:11 / Luke 12:12)Romans 8:16-17 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit,
that we are the children of God: And if children, then heirs;
heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we
suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
Does this help your understanding of the “HolySpirit”?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
No Ed, it does not help my understanding, but it does show me that I need to enlighten you. I was going to say dear brother, but I still don't know if you have been born again.The Holy Spirit did NOT write the Bible. It was written by man under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, then it was translated by men who wrote in the preface that they did their best with the interpretation.
The Holy Spirit has NEVER become flesh and certainly was not Jesus, but He (the Holy Spirit) did indwell Jesus from the time of His baptism.
And like I have said so many times, my Bible tells me that the Word became FLESH.
Jesus never called the Scriptures the Word, so why do you? He referred to them as the Scriptures, it is written and the words of God (when it quoted Him).
Quote (Oxy @ July 15 2010,18:08) Quote (Ed J @ July 15 2010,19:43) Quote (Oxy @ July 15 2010,17:23) I am not at all confused by what I believe Ed, I am however totally confused as to what you believe and how it works. My Bible tells me that the Word became flesh. I have not yet read where Mary gave birth to a book.
Hi Oxy,The “HolySpirit” (in essence) wrote The Bible,
which is the expression of himself: “The Word”.The HolySpirit also first (after Adam's fall) became flesh in Jesus,
now in “ALL BELIEVERS” IN HIM!! (Matt.10:20 / Mark 13:11 / Luke 12:12)Romans 8:16-17 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit,
that we are the children of God: And if children, then heirs;
heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we
suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
Does this help your understanding of the “HolySpirit”?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
No Ed, it does not help my understanding, but it does show me that I need to enlighten you. I was going to say dear brother, but I still don't know if you have been born again.The Holy Spirit did NOT write the Bible. It was written by man under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, then it was translated by men who wrote in the preface that they did their best with the interpretation.
The Holy Spirit has NEVER become flesh and certainly was not Jesus, but He (the Holy Spirit) did indwell Jesus from the time of His baptism.
And like I have said so many times, my Bible tells me that the Word became FLESH.
Jesus never called the Scriptures the Word, so why do you? He referred to them as the Scriptures, it is written and the words of God (when it quoted Him).
Hi Oxy,Psalm 68:11: The Lord gave the word: great
was the company of those that published it.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgWhat do you say of the times when Paul said things like.. 1Co 7:12 But to the rest I speak, not the Lord, If any brother has a wife who does not believe, and she is pleased to dwell with him, do not let him put her away.
If Paul said it and the Lord didn't, is it still Scripture?
Psa 68:9 You, O God, sent a plentiful rain, by which You upheld Your inheritance when it was weary.
Psa 68:10 Your flock has dwelt in it; You, O God, have prepared in Your goodness for the poor.
Psa 68:11 The Lord gave the Word; the bearers of it were a great army.The Lord gave the Word, and when He was born He was called Jesus and yes, a great army bears that name!
Quote (Oxy @ July 15 2010,18:20) What do you say of the times when Paul said things like.. 1Co 7:12 But to the rest I speak, not the Lord, If any brother has a wife who does not believe, and she is pleased to dwell with him, do not let him put her away. If Paul said it and the Lord didn't, is it still Scripture?
Hi Oxy,Obviously the verse you posted is The Apostle Paul's (Shaool) opinion.
But that doesn't change Isaiah 38:5-8…
It's what YHVH said and it's written in “The Bible”
SO THE WORD IS IN THE BIBLE!!!!!!!!!!! WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!Isaiah 38:4: Then came “The Word” of The LORD to Isaiah, saying,
“Go, and say to Hezekiah, Thus saith the LORD, the God of David thy father,
I have heard thy prayer, I have seen thy tears: behold, I will add unto thy days fifteen years.
And I will deliver thee and this city out of the hand of the king of Assyria: and I will defend this city.
And this shall be a sign unto thee from the LORD, that the LORD will do this thing that he hath spoken;
Behold, I will bring again the shadow of the degrees, which is gone down in the sun dial of Ahaz,
ten degrees backward. So the sun returned ten degrees, by which degrees it was gone down.“Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
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