Muslims teach differently than bodhitharta

[Ed J]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 14 2012,01:03)

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 13 2012,17:45) Hi BD, So then you consider the 'hadiths' to be uninspired; correct? B'shem YHVH The hadits are called the “sayings of the prophet” they are based on heresay and no where are they called inspired to my knowledge. They may very well be inspired but the Quran does not imply that it is somehow lacking whereas to depend on Hadiths. In the Hadiths themselves Muhammad is reported as saying anything that you hear that is conflict with the Quran always obey the Quran

Hi BD,

Who differentiated all the various recitations of Mohammed?
Are you beginning to see that none of it is inspired yet?

B'shem
YHVH

[Ed J]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 14 2012,01:05)

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 08 2012,15:44) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 30 2012,12:42) ED you believe that God had a relationship with Mary? Hi BD, Not a sexual one, YHVH has a relationship with all of his children. B'shem YHVH So then ED why do you insist that God had a child with his own child(Mary)? You see how blasphemous you sound, you are basically accusing God of Incest, right?

Hi BD, what part on non-sexual do you not understand?

Dost thou believe on the Son of God ? (John 9:35-38)

Original Word: υἱός, οῦ, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: huios
Phonetic Spelling: (hwee-os')
Short Definition: a son, descendent
Definition: a son, descendent.

B'shem
YHVH

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 14 2012,01:18)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 14 2012,01:03) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 13 2012,17:45) Hi BD, So then you consider the 'hadiths' to be uninspired; correct? B'shem YHVH The hadits are called the “sayings of the prophet” they are based on heresay and no where are they called inspired to my knowledge. They may very well be inspired but the Quran does not imply that it is somehow lacking whereas to depend on Hadiths. In the Hadiths themselves Muhammad is reported as saying anything that you hear that is conflict with the Quran always obey the Quran Hi BD, Who differentiated all the various recitations of Mohammed? Are you beginning to see that none of it is inspired yet? B'shem YHVH

It doesn't matter if the Hadiths are inspired because they are not the Quran, did I just not explain that to you? I don't study hadiths.

For instance you assume that all of Pauls writings are inspired but why?

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 14 2012,01:20)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 14 2012,01:05) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 08 2012,15:44) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 30 2012,12:42) ED you believe that God had a relationship with Mary? Hi BD, Not a sexual one, YHVH has a relationship with all of his children. B'shem YHVH So then ED why do you insist that God had a child with his own child(Mary)? You see how blasphemous you sound, you are basically accusing God of Incest, right? Hi BD, what part on non-sexual do you not understand? Dost thou believe on the Son of God ? (John 9:35-38) Original Word: υἱός, οῦ, ὁ Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine Transliteration: huios Phonetic Spelling: (hwee-os') Short Definition: a son, descendent Definition: a son, descendent. B'shem YHVH

do you insist that God had a child with his own child(Mary)?

You should answer the question

How else does someone have a Mother and a Father literally unless it is sexual, please tell me.

[Ed J]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 14 2012,04:18)

For instance you assume that all of Pauls writings are inspired but why?

Hi BD,

Because he had YHVH residing inside him unlike your false prophet!
2 Corinthians 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with
idols(prostrating to the kaaba)? for ye are the temple of the living God;
as God(YHVH) hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them;
and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

B'shem
YHVH

[Ed J]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 14 2012,04:20)

You should answer the question How else does someone have a Mother and a Father literally unless it is sexual, please tell me.

Hi BD,

Here is the biblical the account for you (Keep asking questions, that's how you learn!) …

Matt 1:18,20 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph,
before they came together(consummated the marriage), she was found with child of the HolySpirit.

But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a dream,
saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife:
for that which is conceived in her is of the HolySpirit. (Luke 1:35)

And [the angel Gabriel] answered and said unto her, The HolySpirit shall come upon thee,
and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that
holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

B'shem
YHVH

[Ed J]

Hi BD,

Apparently the angel Gabriel changed his mind,
or YOUR FALSE PROPHET was really listening to satan!
Prob.3:33 The curse of YHVH is in the house of the wicked.

Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel
unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. ('alah' in the bible means 'curse'!)

B'shem
YHVH

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 14 2012,05:04)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 14 2012,04:18) For instance you assume that all of Pauls writings are inspired but why? Hi BD, Because he had YHVH residing inside him unlike your false prophet! 2 Corinthians 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols(prostrating to the kaaba)? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God(YHVH) hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. B'shem YHVH

Paul seemed to be confused about whether he has the Holy Spirit:

1.1 Corinthians 7:40
But she is happier if she so abide, after my judgment: and I think also that I have the Spirit of God.

Paul says that even food offered to Idols is not really a big deal:

1 Corinthians 8

1Now as touching things offered unto idols, we know that we all have knowledge. Knowledge puffeth up, but charity edifieth.

2And if any man think that he knoweth any thing, he knoweth nothing yet as he ought to know.

3But if any man love God, the same is known of him.

4As concerning therefore the eating of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is none other God but one.

But why in revelation is the idea chastised:

Revelation 2:14
But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication.

You have to read your bible

Genesis 12:8

King James Version (KJV)

8And he removed from thence unto a mountain on the east of Bethel, and pitched his tent, having Bethel on the west, and Hai on the east: and there he builded an altar unto the LORD, and called upon the name of the LORD.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 14 2012,01:18)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 14 2012,01:03) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 13 2012,17:45) Hi BD, So then you consider the 'hadiths' to be uninspired; correct? B'shem YHVH The hadits are called the “sayings of the prophet” they are based on heresay and no where are they called inspired to my knowledge. They may very well be inspired but the Quran does not imply that it is somehow lacking whereas to depend on Hadiths. In the Hadiths themselves Muhammad is reported as saying anything that you hear that is conflict with the Quran always obey the Quran Hi BD, Who differentiated all the various recitations of Mohammed? Are you beginning to see that none of it is inspired yet? B'shem YHVH

ED

You are the only one that keeps reciting Hadiths and stories about Muhammad and that's fine but notice that I only correct you with actual scripture whether it be from the Bible or the Quran you only keep throwing out propoganda and that's why you cannot win this debate you have lost this debate continuously even your heart is in the wrong place.

The real truth is that you know in your heart that Jesus is not the literal son of God but you are fighting what you know to be reality. Once you get that idea of literal sonship out of your head you can embrace Jesus in truth as the most righteous of servants otherwise you will never know Christ even if you prophesy and csat demons out in his name he will still say in the end (Luke 13:27)
But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.

[Ed J]

Quote (the main part of a bodhitharta quote @ 1)

get that idea of literal sonship out of your head

Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 14 2012,04:21)

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 14 2012,01:10) Hi BD, He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. (1 John 2:22) B'shem YHVH No actually he is anti-christ that deny God and His Christ.

Hi BD,

Sorry pal, but I will take the words of Scripture over what the spirit of antichrist says.

Original Word: “FATHER”
πατήρ, πατρός, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: patér
Phonetic Spelling: (pat-ayr')
Short Definition: father, Father, ancestor
Definition: father, (Heavenly) Father, ancestor, elder, senior.

Original Word: “SON”
υἱός, οῦ, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: huios
Phonetic Spelling: (hwee-os')
Short Definition: a son, descendent
Definition: a son, descendent.

B'shem
YHVH

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 14 2012,06:47)

Quote (the main part of a bodhitharta quote @ 1)   get that idea of literal sonship out of your head Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 14 2012,04:21) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 14 2012,01:10) Hi BD, He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. (1 John 2:22) B'shem YHVH No actually he is anti-christ that deny God and His Christ. Hi BD, Sorry pal, but I will take the words of Scripture over what the spirit of antichrist says. Original Word: “FATHER” πατήρ, πατρός, ὁ Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine Transliteration: patér Phonetic Spelling: (pat-ayr') Short Definition: father, Father, ancestor Definition: father, (Heavenly) Father, ancestor, elder, senior. Original Word: “SON” υἱός, οῦ, ὁ Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine Transliteration: huios Phonetic Spelling: (hwee-os') Short Definition: a son, descendent Definition: a son, descendent. B'shem YHVH

Okay, then we are all gods although God says that there is no God besides Him but the scripture says “Ye are gods”

[Ed J]

Hi BD,

         quran  =  Babylon

B'shem
YHVH

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 14 2012,18:43)

Hi BD,          quran  =  Babylon B'shem YHVH

That was in the Bible not the Quran, The Quran says there are no other gods

[Ed J]

Hi BD, ‘alah’ in the bible means ‘curse’.

The ‘quranic god’ is the false god satan, read Gal. 1:8 and 2Cor. 11:14.
“though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you
than that which we have preached unto you, let him(al-lah) be accursed.”
“no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light“

B'shem
YHVH

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 14 2012,23:39)

Hi BD, ‘alah’ in the bible means ‘curse’. The ‘quranic god’ is the false god satan, read Gal. 1:8 and 2Cor. 11:14. “though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him(al-lah) be accursed.” “no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light“ B'shem YHVH

ED

The person who said

Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light

Admitted to being a murderer and opressor of followers of Christ and then suddenly appeared to be transformed into an angel of light himself plus he claims to have been greeted on the road with a great light not ever having met Jesus somehow “knew” that it was Jesus talking to him.

You see ED the problem is everything is so flexible and unclear in most of the Bible it doesn't have the same clarity of The Quran and this is why God sent the Quran down, to dispell alot of the confusion that people like you are wracked with everyday.

The Catholic Church delivered the Bible to you and yet you are not Catholic and condemn them so you condemn your own spiritual heritage thinking you could simply make it up to be suitable to you and mostly everyone on this site that is Christian does the same thing until you accept the Catholic church and its contribution and the Protestants for their contribution and on and on you will forever remain lost, confused and arrogant about nothing

[Ed J]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 15 2012,06:15)

You see ED the problem is everything is so flexible and unclear in most of the Bible it doesn't have the same clarity of The Quran and this is why God sent the Quran down, to dispell alot of the confusion that people like you are wracked with everyday.

FALSE,

The 'book of fraud' is reported to have been given by Gabriel, but it was really delivered by satan!
It's vital to understand that the 'book of fraud'(=quran book) teaches against The Gospel's message.

Gal.1:6-9 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you
into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there
be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we,
or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have
preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any
man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

2Cor.11:14-15 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Therefore it is no great thing if [Satan's ministers] also be transformed as the
ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

B'shem
YHVH

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 16 2012,00:29)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 15 2012,06:15) You see ED the problem is everything is so flexible and unclear in most of the Bible it doesn't have the same clarity of The Quran and this is why God sent the Quran down, to dispell alot of the confusion that people like you are wracked with everyday. FALSE, The 'book of fraud' is reported to have been given by Gabriel, but it was really delivered by satan! It's vital to understand that the 'book of fraud'(=quran book) teaches against The Gospel's message. Gal.1:6-9 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. 2Cor.11:14-15 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if [Satan's ministers] also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. B'shem YHVH

ED

who was that written about? It was written almost 700 years before the Quran was sent down so who could he have been talking about? Who in that day was preaching a different Gospel then Paul?

Do you even know?

[Ed J]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 16 2012,04:47)

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 16 2012,00:29) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 15 2012,06:15) You see ED the problem is everything is so flexible and unclear in most of the Bible it doesn't have the same clarity of The Quran and this is why God sent the Quran down, to dispell alot of the confusion that people like you are wracked with everyday. FALSE, The 'book of fraud' is reported to have been given by Gabriel, but it was really delivered by satan! It's vital to understand that the 'book of fraud'(=quran book) teaches against The Gospel's message. Gal.1:6-9 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. 2Cor.11:14-15 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if [Satan's ministers] also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. B'shem YHVH ED who was that written about? It was written almost 700 years before the Quran was sent down so who could he have been talking about? Who in that day was preaching a different Gospel then Paul? Do you even know?

Hi BD,

John 14:30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you:
for the prince of this world (Muhammad) cometh,
and hath nothing in me. (THE FALSE PROPHET)

“he(Muhammad had two horns like a lamb(shiite and sunni),
and he(Muhammad) spake as a dragon(al-lah)” (Rev.13:11,18)
He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. (1John 2:22)

B'shem
YHVH

[shimmer]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 15 2012,08:15)

You see ED the problem is everything is so flexible and unclear in most of the Bible it doesn't have the same clarity of The Quran and this is why God sent the Quran down, to dispell alot of the confusion that people like you are wracked with everyday.

Bod,

Jesus is standing at the door and knocking.
The door is the heart.

With what you said above,

The trouble with the Quran compared to the Bible is, the Bible says nothing definate about the punishment of sinners.  When you analyze the text, it is death (Permanant death) which is the wages of sin.

However, the Quran says hell is the punishment of the dead, and there is no way around what it says, and what it says is not humane.

The God of the Old Testement and the Father of Jesus in the New is love Bod.

[shimmer]

Bod, please put away your Quran and return to Jesus.

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