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CO,
This is what is says
“Mt 15
“24But
he
answered
and
said,
I
am
not
sent
but
unto
the
lost
sheep
of
the
house
of
Israel. ”I cannot read that as saying his teachings are restricted to Israel but you can?
It goes far beyond what to words say to read it that way and doing such things is inadvisable.
When you add words to his you step outside any authority those words give.
Quote (chosenone @ Jan. 23 2009,08:14) NH.
I'll repeat the question. Nick, what is your opinion on what Matt.15:24 says. Knowing you, I don't really expect an answer, but I hope you will suprise me.
NH.
True to form, you won't, or don't know, what you think this verse is saying.CO,
Mt15
24But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.No.
Just bewildered as to how anyone could teach that this statement restricts the teaching of Lord Jesus to Israel.
So please enlighten us.
NH.
I'll break it down for you, seeing as you can't understand English.Now He, answering, said, “I was not commissioned except for the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” My explanation will be in brackets ().
Now He (Jesus) …answering, said (His reply) …I was not commissioned (I was not sent to anyone) …except (only to) …the lost sheep (unbelievers) …of the house of Israel (self explanitory, “Israel”).
I know you will only answer with another question, always avoiding your opinion, to hide your misunderstanding. Never the less, Here it is.
CO,
So nothing there about any restriction on the intended hearers of the message so can you try again?NH.
It's there plainly, only you don't understand it. “They have eyes, but cannot see”… Sound familiar?NH.
“I was not commissioned “except” to… Another way to say the same thing is: I was commissioned to no one else, but to … But of course, being blinded, you wouldn't understand this.DCO,
So it is the Word COMMISSIONED you think encompasses a permanent sanction against these teachings applying to anyone but Israel?Number 649
Transliteration:
apostello {ap-os-tel'-lo}
Word Origin:
from 575 and 4724
TDNT:
1:398,67
Part of Speech:
verb
Usage in the KJV:
send 110, send forth 15, send away 4, send out 2, misc 2Total: 133
Definition:
to order (one) to go to a place appointed
to send away, dismiss
to allow one to depart, that he may be in a state of liberty
to order one to depart, send off
to drive away For Synonyms see entry 5813Scripture does not seem to agree and I prefer it.
Hi CO,
You quote mt 15 as saying the WORDS of Jesus are just for the Israelites.
Where is it written?Can anyone try to explain to Nick what Matthew 15:24 means? He doesn't seem to understand English.
Paul also explains this in Ro.15:8 …For I am saying that Christ has become the Servant of the Circumcision, for the sake of the truth of God, to confirm the patriarchal promises.
Jesus preached the “Gospel of the Kingdom” to Israel, and them only. After their (Israels) rejection of their 'Messiah”, and having Him (Jesus) crucified, God, thru Paul and Barnabas told them (Israel) in Acts13:46 …Being bold, both Paul and Barnabas, say, “To you first (Israel) was it necessary that the word of God be spoken. Yet, since, in fact, you are thrusting it away, and are judging yourselves not worthy of eonian life, lo! we are turning to the nations”. Paul preached the “Gospel of the Grace of God” to the nations.
Blessings.
Hi CO,
Can't find what you say in the concordant bible either.
Perhaps you should be more accurate?
Correctly cut the word of truth?Quote (chosenone @ July 16 2009,17:13) Can anyone try to explain to Nick what Matthew 15:24 means? He doesn't seem to understand English. Paul also explains this in Ro.15:8 …For I am saying that Christ has become the Servant of the Circumcision, for the sake of the truth of God, to confirm the patriarchal promises.
Jesus preached the “Gospel of the Kingdom” to Israel, and them only. After their (Israels) rejection of their 'Messiah”, and having Him (Jesus) crucified, God, thru Paul and Barnabas told them (Israel) in Acts13:46 …Being bold, both Paul and Barnabas, say, “To you first (Israel) was it necessary that the word of God be spoken. Yet, since, in fact, you are thrusting it away, and are judging yourselves not worthy of eonian life, lo! we are turning to the nations”. Paul preached the “Gospel of the Grace of God” to the nations.
Blessings.
Greetings chosenone……I think it is essential to discern Israel from Judah…It was Judah to whom the messiah was sent and it was Judah who crucified him….Jesus' roots are from the tribe of Judah….Israel ( the lost tribes )were in exile at the time of Jesus' ministry….The Gospel of the kingdom was preached first to Judah and through the efforts of the apostles was brought to Israel by the decree of Jesus to go into the world….The tribes may be lost or banished but there is still room in Gods heart for them and for that reason some day they will be indentified…Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 16 2009,17:33) Hi CO,
Can't find what you say in the concordant bible either.
Perhaps you should be more accurate?
Correctly cut the word of truth?
NH.
More pages missing in your bible?Hi CO,
So show us Mt 15 in your version if you claim it says the words of Jesus are only for the jews.
If it does not say so then you are only wasting time adding to such error.Quote (theodorej @ July 17 2009,01:18) Quote (chosenone @ July 16 2009,17:13) Can anyone try to explain to Nick what Matthew 15:24 means? He doesn't seem to understand English. Paul also explains this in Ro.15:8 …For I am saying that Christ has become the Servant of the Circumcision, for the sake of the truth of God, to confirm the patriarchal promises.
Jesus preached the “Gospel of the Kingdom” to Israel, and them only. After their (Israels) rejection of their 'Messiah”, and having Him (Jesus) crucified, God, thru Paul and Barnabas told them (Israel) in Acts13:46 …Being bold, both Paul and Barnabas, say, “To you first (Israel) was it necessary that the word of God be spoken. Yet, since, in fact, you are thrusting it away, and are judging yourselves not worthy of eonian life, lo! we are turning to the nations”. Paul preached the “Gospel of the Grace of God” to the nations.
Blessings.
Greetings chosenone……I think it is essential to discern Israel from Judah…It was Judah to whom the messiah was sent and it was Judah who crucified him….Jesus' roots are from the tribe of Judah….Israel ( the lost tribes )were in exile at the time of Jesus' ministry….The Gospel of the kingdom was preached first to Judah and through the efforts of the apostles was brought to Israel by the decree of Jesus to go into the world….The tribes may be lost or banished but there is still room in Gods heart for them and for that reason some day they will be indentified…
Hi Theo.
I'll have to disagree to you about your statement ” …The Gospel of the kingdom was preached first to Judah and through the efforts of the apostles was brought to Israel by the decree of Jesus to go into the world….” Jesus words Himself in Matt.15:24 say…” Now He (Jesus), answering, said, “I was not commissioned except for the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”
Also your other statement …”The Gospel of the kingdom was preached first to Judah and through the efforts of the apostles was brought to Israel by the decree of Jesus to go into the world…” This decree of Jesus, was to His deciples to go to the “nations”, But they never did go to the 'nations', because this decree was dependent on “Israel” accepting their “Messiah” and entering the'Kingdom'. But this never happened, but will in the future, when God makes a “new covenant with Israel, see Heb.8:8-13 …8 For, blaming them, He is saying, “Lo! the days are coming,” the Lord is saying, “And I shall be concluding with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah a new covenant,
9 Not in accord with the covenant which I make with their fathers In the day of My taking hold of their hand To be leading them out of the land of Egypt, Seeing that they do not remain in My covenant, And I neglect them,” the Lord is saying,
10 “For this is the covenant which I shall be covenanting with the house of Israel after those days,” the Lord is saying: “Imparting My laws to their comprehension, On their hearts, also, shall I be inscribing them, And I shall be to them for a God, And they shall be to Me for a people.
11 And by no means should each be teaching his fellow citizen, And each his brother, saying, 'Know the Lord!' For all shall be acquainted with Me, From their little to their great,
12 For I shall be propitious to their injustices, And of their sins and their lawlessnesses should I under no circumstances still be reminded.”
13 In saying “new,” He has made the former old. Now that which is growing old and decrepit is near its disappearance.Thanks for your reply, I enjoy your opinion.
Blessings, Jerry.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 17 2009,06:22) Hi CO,
So show us Mt 15 in your version if you claim it says the words of Jesus are only for the jews.
If it does not say so then you are only wasting time adding to such error.
NH.
How many times do I have to refer you to Matt.15:24? If you cannot understand what this means, please get help, I can't keep going around in circles repeating over and over, yet you don't understand.Can anyone following this thread explain what Matt.15:24 means to Nick?
Blessings.
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