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Quote Hi cb,
So looking at the translation of the verse you present does it mean to you Christ had equality with God? If he did then he could not also be the God he was equal with surely?NH. You are reasoning as an Arian.
The Bible says there are Three.
Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Jesus / Jehovah. Seed of David
Joh 7:42 Hath not the scripture said, That Christ cometh of the seed of David, and out of the town of Bethlehem, where David was?
2Ti 2:8 Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:
Jer 23:5-6 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch (Jesus), and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD (Yhovah)OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.Hi CB,
Jesus, the Son of God, is also the ROOT of David [Rev 23.16]
and is the eternal vessel for God in the fullness of deity from the Jordan.Quote (Cult Buster @ Jan. 10 2007,12:43) Jesus / Jehovah. Seed of David Joh 7:42 Hath not the scripture said, That Christ cometh of the seed of David, and out of the town of Bethlehem, where David was?
2Ti 2:8 Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:
Jer 23:5-6 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch (Jesus), and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD (Yhovah)OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.
By calling yourself Cult Buster, you are setting yourself up as the ONE who has all wisdom and is always right, but I do not agree with your doctrine my friend.Jesus is not Jehovah. How can He who is sent also be He who did the sending?
Also, concerning Jesus being equal to God, consider this:
Joh 14:28 You have heard how I said to you, I go away and I am coming to you again. If you loved Me, you would rejoice because I said, I go to the Father, for My Father is greater than I.
Quote (Oxy @ Jan. 29 2007,18:56) Quote (Cult Buster @ Jan. 10 2007,12:43) Jesus / Jehovah. Seed of David Joh 7:42 Hath not the scripture said, That Christ cometh of the seed of David, and out of the town of Bethlehem, where David was?
2Ti 2:8 Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:
Jer 23:5-6 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch (Jesus), and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD (Yhovah)OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.
By calling yourself Cult Buster, you are setting yourself up as the ONE who has all wisdom and is always right, but I do not agree with your doctrine my friend.Jesus is not Jehovah. How can He who is sent also be He who did the sending?
Also, concerning Jesus being equal to God, consider this:
Joh 14:28 You have heard how I said to you, I go away and I am coming to you again. If you loved Me, you would rejoice because I said, I go to the Father, for My Father is greater than I.
Amen and Amen!Quote (Oxy @ Jan. 30 2007,05:56) Quote (Cult Buster @ Jan. 10 2007,12:43) Jesus / Jehovah. Seed of David Joh 7:42 Hath not the scripture said, That Christ cometh of the seed of David, and out of the town of Bethlehem, where David was?
2Ti 2:8 Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:
Jer 23:5-6 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch (Jesus), and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD (Yhovah)OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.
By calling yourself Cult Buster, you are setting yourself up as the ONE who has all wisdom and is always right, but I do not agree with your doctrine my friend.Jesus is not Jehovah. How can He who is sent also be He who did the sending?
Also, concerning Jesus being equal to God, consider this:
Joh 14:28 You have heard how I said to you, I go away and I am coming to you again. If you loved Me, you would rejoice because I said, I go to the Father, for My Father is greater than I.
To be fair to CB, he doesn't believe in the existence two (or more) Gods. He believe in only One, YHWH. Oxy, no offense, but I'm not sure you can say the same.Hi ,
Jesus agreed he is the Christ.
Scripture tells us Christ means messiah.
He is the promised messiah.Hi,
We cannot fully grasp the plans of God. But we do know that God does seriously challenge the faith of men. He doesn't spoon feed them. Jesus was the ultimate challenge to the faith of the religious ones in Israel. He was largely found to be a rock of offense and a stumbling stone rather than a cornerstone. But a remnant believed.It was necessary to fulfill scripture that the Christ should die as a sacrifice for sin. As Paul said this would not have happened if the principalities and powers had realised scripture pointed to this situation. Thus it was necessary that it be made a mystery in the OT so that only the Spirit of God could show it as Christ did to the men on their way to Emmaus.
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13And, behold, two of them went that same day to a village called Emmaus, which was from Jerusalem about threescore furlongs.14And they talked together of all these things which had happened.
15And it came to pass, that, while they communed together and reasoned, Jesus himself drew near, and went with them.
16But their eyes were holden that they should not know him.
17And he said unto them, What manner of communications are these that ye have one to another, as ye walk, and are sad?
18And the one of them, whose name was Cleopas, answering said unto him, Art thou only a stranger in Jerusalem, and hast not known the things which are come to pass there in these days?
19And he said unto them, What things? And they said unto him, Concerning Jesus of Nazareth, which was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people:
20And how the chief priests and our rulers delivered him to be condemned to death, and have crucified him.
21But we trusted that it had been he which should have redeemed Israel: and beside all this, to day is the third day since these things were done.
22Yea, and certain women also of our company made us astonished, which were early at the sepulchre;
23And when they found not his body, they came, saying, that they had also seen a vision of angels, which said that he was alive.
24And certain of them which were with us went to the sepulchre, and found it even so as the women had said: but him they saw not.
25Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:
26Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?
27And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.
28And they drew nigh unto the village, whither they went: and he made as though he would have gone further.
29But they constrained him, saying, Abide with us: for it is toward evening, and the day is far spent. And he went in to tarry with them.
30And it came to pass, as he sat at meat with them, he took bread, and blessed it, and brake, and gave to them.
31And their eyes were opened, and they knew him; and he vanished out of their sight.
32And they said one to another, Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures?
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