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[Worshipping Jesus]

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Hi W, Can one be next to God and be the God they are next to? Can the Father and the Son be one in being if they are father and son? Where is Jesus called a co-creator or did you make this one up? Jesus told us God is one. Would he not have told us if the one actually was three and included himself? Why add to his words-that is risky.

NH

Can a Husband and wife be next to each other and be one?

How about this NH.

Jesus was next to the Father, could he see the Father?

[NickHassan]

Hi W,
God sees husband and wife as one, always.
Gen 2.24
2For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh.

Mk 10
AND THE TWO SHALL BECOME ONE FLESH; so they are no longer two, but one flesh.

Rib rejoined

Man cannot see God. God is Spirit. God is invisible to physical eyes and only spirit beings such as the Word and angels could see God. Of course they cannot be part of the God they see. No man has seen God except the man from heaven, the Son of God.
John 6:46
Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.
1 John 4:12
No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.
John 1:18
No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him

[Cult Buster]

NH

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Hi CB, Jesus is the SON of God. Remember this fact as your salvation depends on it.

The Son of God is clearly also God, that is why our salvation depends on Jesus.

Heb 1:8  But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

Col 2:9  For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily

Phi 2:5  Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus
Phi 2:6  Who being in the form of God  thought it not robbery to be equal with God

Rom 9:5  Whose are the fathers  and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came  who is over all God blessed for ever Amen

Tit 2:13  Looking for that blessed hope  and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ

1Ti 3:16  And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness  God was manifest in the flesh

1Jo 5:20  And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding  that we may know him that is true  and we are in him that is true  even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God  and eternal life.

Isa 9:6  For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Rev 1:8  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:14  And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us,..

Mic 5:2  But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.

Heb 7:16  Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.

Mat 26:63  But Jesus held his peace. And the high priest answered and said unto him, I adjure thee by the living God, that thou tell us whether thou be the Christ, the Son of God.
Mat 26:64  Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.
Mat 26:65  Then the high priest rent his clothes, saying, He hath spoken blasphemy;

(The high priest understood Jesus’ claim to be God and wrongly accused Him of blasphemy.)
Blasphemy can only be committed against God.

Mat 9:2  And, behold, they brought to him a man sick of the palsy, lying on a bed: and Jesus seeing their faith said unto the sick of the palsy; Son, be of good cheer; thy sins be forgiven thee.
Mat 9:3  And, behold, certain of the scribes said within themselves, This man blasphemeth. (They knew that only God can forgive sins.)
Mat 9:4  And Jesus knowing their thoughts said, Wherefore think ye evil in your hearts?

2Co 4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Col 1:15  Who is the image of the invisible God,…

Heb 1:2  Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
Heb 1:3  Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

1Jo 5:20  And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.

Isa 40:3  The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God.

Rev 22:13  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

Joh 1:3  All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Joh 1:10  He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

Col 1:16  For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

Heb 1:2  Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

Heb 1:10  And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:

Gen 1:26  And God said, Let us make man in our image,

Col 1:17  And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

Mat 9:6  But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (then saith he to the sick of the palsy,) Arise, take up thy bed, and go unto thine house.

Mar 2:5  When Jesus saw their faith, he said unto the sick of the palsy, Son, thy sins be forgiven thee.
Mar 2:6  But there were certain of the scribes sitting there, and reasoning in their hearts,
Mar 2:7  Why doth this man thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only?

Col 3:13  Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye.

Joh 5:22  For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:
Joh 5:23  That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.

Joh 14:1  Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.

Heb 1:6  And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
Rev 22:8  And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things.
Rev 22:9  Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.
Joh 9:38  And he said, Lord, I believe. And he worshipped him.
Mar 5:6  But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him,
Mat 28:17  And when they saw him, they worshipped him:
Mat 15:25  Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.
Mat 14:33  Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God.
Mat 8:2  And, behold, there came a leper and worshipped him,.

Joh 20:28  And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God (Theos).
Joh 20:29  Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

Jer 23:5  Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
Jer 23:6  In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD (Yhovah)OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.

Rev 2:23  And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.

Mar 2:28  Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath
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Exo 20:10  But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God:

1Co 10:4  And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
Deu 32:3  Because I will publish the name of the LORD: ascribe ye greatness unto our God.
Deu 32:4  He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.
1Sa 2:2  There is none holy as the LORD: for there is none beside thee: neither is there any rock like our God.
1Sa 2:2  There is none holy as the LORD: for there is none beside thee: neither is there any rock like our God.
Psa 78:35  And they remembered that God was their rock, and the high God their redeemer.

1Co 10:4  And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

Exo 20:1  And God spake all these words, saying,
Exo 20:2  I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
1Co 10:2  And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
1Co 10:4  And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

2Ti 4:1  I charge thee therefore before God and the Lord Jesus Christ who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

Mal 3:6  For I am the LORD (yhovah), I change not;
Heb 13:8  Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

Exo 3:14  And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
Joh 8:57  Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
Joh 8:58  Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
Joh 8:59  Then took they up stones to cast at him: (because Jesus claimed the name of God)

Joh 10:9  I am the door:
Joh 10:11  I am the good shepherd:
Joh 11:25  … I am the resurrection,
Joh 14:6  Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life:
Joh 14:10  Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me?
Joh 15:1  I am the true vine,

Joh 5:17  But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.
Joh 5:18  Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.

Mat 1:23  Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
Joh 14:1  Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.

Acts 7:59, “And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.”

[NickHassan]

Hi CB,
So if the Son is the mediator between God and man how can you say he is also the Being he mediates with?

[Cult Buster]

Adam Pastor

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(John 1:18)  No man hath seen God at any time;… (1 John 4:12)  No man hath seen God at any time. …

Let us look at the whole of scripture this time to see which God Christ is referring to.

Joh 1:18  No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

1Jo 4:12  No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.

These verses refer to the Father or to the Godhead. Christ is the only Person within the Godhead who has spoken face to face with man.

Joh 5:37  And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.

Here is an abundance of verses showing that God (Christ) appeared and spoke face with men. Don't forget that no man has seen the other Persons within the Godhead face to face. John 1:18, John 5:37. Scripture is so clear.

Gen 17:1  And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD (Jehovah) appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.

Gen 26:24  And the LORD (Jehovah) appeared unto him the same night, and said, I am the God of Abraham thy father: fear not, for I am with thee, and will bless thee, and multiply thy seed for my servant Abraham's sake.

Gen 32:30  And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.

Exo 33:11  And the LORD (Jehovah) spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend. And he turned again into the camp: but his servant Joshua, the son of Nun, a young man, departed not out of the tabernacle.

Exo 6:2  And God spake unto Moses, and said unto him, I am the LORD (Jehovah):
Exo 6:3  And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.

Gen 18:1  And the LORD (Jehovah) appeared unto him in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day;

Jesus said:

Joh 8:56  Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.
Joh 8:57  Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
Joh 8:58  Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM.

Just in case you are confused who “I AM” is

Exo 3:14  And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

There you are; Jesus Christ  is Jehovah (I AM) mentioned in scripture.

Jer 23:5  Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
Jer 23:6  In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD (Yhovah)OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.

Joh 20:28  And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God (Theos).

[Cult Buster]

Nh

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Hi CB, So if the Son is the mediator between God and man how can you say he is also the Being he mediates with?

NH. You think as an Arian.  Come out of her    

[Adam Pastor]

Quote (Cult Buster @ Dec. 25 2006,09:34)

Adam Pastor Quote (John 1:18)  No man hath seen God at any time;… (1 John 4:12)  No man hath seen God at any time. … Let us look at the whole of scripture this time to see which God Christ is referring to. Joh 1:18  No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. 1Jo 4:12  No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us. These verses refer to the Father or to the Godhead. Christ is the only Person within the Godhead who has spoken face to face with man. Joh 5:37  And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape. Here is an abundance of verses showing that God (Christ) appeared and spoke face with men. Don't forget that no man has seen the other Persons within the Godhead face to face. John 1:18, John 5:37. Scripture is so clear. ….

  LOL
Which God Jesus was referring to?  

Jesus was and is a Jew, a strict monotheist!
He only knows ONE GOD, the Father, the ONLY true GOD
[John 17.3, 5.44];
just like every other God-fearing Jew including the Apostle John.

You call yourself Cult Buster, LOL!
Yet you bring such Cultic heretical statements such as
“Christ is the only Person within the Godhead“, “seen the other Persons within the Godhead”, and to top it all, you say “Let us look at the whole of scripture this time to see which God Christ is referring to.”;
as if, there is more than one??

Of a truth, CB, you most definitely represent a Cult that needs to be Busted!

Christ never ever believed in a doctrine of persons in a Godhead … neither did his apostles teach such heresy.
This heresy of 'God in 3 persons, the so-called trinity' came about from Hellenistic, pagan & philosopherical-minded people who tried to morph their pagan teachings & philosophy with the Bible and call it 'Christianity'

This Cult therefore was established with the help of Constantine, Athanasius, Theodosius, politics
and the edge of the sword!

You are right about one thing, CB; that is …
Scripture is so clear.

Yes It Is! …
It is clear about the fact that YAHWEH OUR GOD, THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE
Not 3, not 3 in 1, not triune, BUT ONE as in …. 1!

The Sh'ma [Deut 6.4] clearly teaches that GOD IS ONE.
Jesus the Messiah, GOD's Son, our Lord; subscribed to this Scriptural Creed in Mark 12:28ff
He subscribed to the fact that “for there is one God; and there is none other but he:“

The scribe was not speaking about Jesus, & Jesus was in full agreement with the Jewish Creed.

However high GOD has exalted Jesus; in all the titles, honors and accolades GOD has bestowed upon His Son …
one thing is most definitely clear …
Jesus is not the one GOD much less a person in a Godhead as you put it … or rather should I say, as Athanasius, the Cappadocian fathers, and their cohorts put it …

Come out from among her, CB
Come out from Rome and its offspring …
Come out from Philosophy and its offspring …
Come out from the greatest most hideous Cult ever foisted upon Bible believers, trinitarianism …

And bow your knees and call upon the only true GOD, the ONE GOD,
the GOD and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ
[Rom 15.6, 2 Cor 1.3, 2 Cor 11.31, Eph 1.3,17; 3.14; Col 1.3, 1 Pet 1.3
John  20.17, Rev 1.6, 3.12, etc]

THE ONE GOD, is the Father [1 Cor 8.4,6]
The man Jesus of Nazareth, is GOD's Son [Matt 16.18], the Son of the Father [2 John 3], the Christ of the ONE GOD [Luke 9.20], the man whom the ONE GOD has made Lord of all [Acts 2.36, 10.36, Phil 2.11];
however it goes without saying that this most exalted man, the Lord Jesus the Messiah, is still subject to the ONE TRUE GOD [1 Cor 15.27-28] who has NO EQUAL!

It is really that simple …
True Biblical Christianity is based upon these simple truths!

(John 17:3)  And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

(1 Tim 2:5)  For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

[NickHassan]

Hi CB,
“These verses refer to the Father or to the Godhead. Christ is the only Person within the Godhead who has spoken face to face with man.”

Do you have the right to pick and choose which verses referring to God actually mean the Father or the so called GODHEAD?
Why?
Where does scripture allow some to apply meaning as suits their view?
Can we all make private interpretations of scripture?
If so scripture is not truth.

[942767]

Hi All:

God is invisible.  No man has seen God.  How can any one see someone who is invisible?   I believe that the scripture that Jesus has seen him means that he has seen his character, and so he can declare him to all of humanity.  Jesus says in John 14:9, “…HE THAT HATH SEEN ME HATH SEEN THE FATHER…”.

“For there is ONE GOD, and ONE MEDIATOR between God and man, THE MAN CHRIST JESUS;” (1 Ti 2:5)

God Bless

[NickHassan]

Hi 94,
Human eyes see physical things. God is spirit, as is the Word and are the angels. They see God with spiritual eyes. God is not invisible to spiritual beings.

[Cult Buster]

Isa 40:3  The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God.

John the Baptist speaking

John 1:23  He said, I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness, Make straight the way of the Lord (Jesus), as said the prophet Esaias.

John the Baptist knew the scriptures that Jesus was God.

The Pharasees knew that the Son of God was God.

Heb 1:8  But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

Come out of this Arian Cult    

[Cult Buster]

Look ye sons and daughters of Arius.

        JESUS our JEHOVAH

JEHOVAH isI AM                          EXODUS 3:14      
JESUS isI AMJOHN 8:57& 58

JEHOVAH isFIRST & LASTISAIHA 44:6, 48:12
JESUS isFIRST & LASTREV 22:12,13,20  1:8  MICAH 5:2

JEHOVAH isROCKDEUT 32:4
JESUS isROCK1 COR 10:4

JEHOVAH isKINGISAIHA 33:22
JESUS isKINGREV 19:11-16

JEHOVAH isCREATORISAIHA 40:28
JESUS isCREATOREPH 3:9  JOHN 1:3  COL 1:16

JEHOVAH isSAVIOURISAIHA 33:22,  43:11,12
JESUS isSAVIOURACTS 4:12  MATH 1:21  LK 2:11

JEHOVAH isJUDGEISAIHA 33:22
JESUS isJUDGEJOHN 5:22

Come out out this Arian Cult      

[Cult Buster]

Tit 2:13  Looking for that blessed hope  and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ

1Ti 3:16  And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness  God was manifest in the flesh

Come out of her ye sons and daughters of Arius.      

[Cult Buster]

This forum is getting very culty!

Deu 6:4  Hear, O Israel: The LORD (Yhovah) our God (Elohiym-Plural) is one (heiz) LORD  (Yhovah):

'ĕlôhîym
gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural thus, especially with the article) of the supreme God;
One (heiz) Lord means that Elohym (plural) is the only one or certain

Mark 12:29  And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord (Kurios) our God  (Theos) is one Lord (Kurios):

Jesus here in Mark 12:29  is obviously referring to Deut 6:4
Note that Theos  is used in the place of  Elohym which is plural. Therefore Theos can be used in the context of the Godhead by Jesus’ own use of the phrase.

Exo 20:3  Thou shalt have no other gods (Elohiym) before me.
Again Elohiym is used to indicate plurality.

Consider:

Genesis 1:1  In the beginning God (Elohiym-Plural)  created the heaven and the earth.

Gen 1:26   And God (Elohiym-Plural)   said, Let US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness:

In these two verses Elohiym is the Godhead.

Come out of her ye sons and daughters of Arius.    

[NickHassan]

Quote (Cult Buster @ Dec. 26 2006,03:15)

Isa 40:3  The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God. John the Baptist speaking John 1:23  He said, I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness, Make straight the way of the Lord (Jesus), as said the prophet Esaias. John the Baptist knew the scriptures that Jesus was God. The Pharasees knew that the Son of God was God. Heb 1:8  But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. Come out of this Arian Cult

Hi CB,
Did you not know that Jesus was a vessel for God
and God visited earth and ministered to mankind through this glorious vessel
and He will come to earth again united in Christ, to rule the earth?

That is the message.

You must know the Son to know and become joined in eternity with God in Him.

But the vessel is not the contents of the vessel.

[NickHassan]

Quote (Cult Buster @ Dec. 26 2006,03:28)

This forum is getting very culty! Deu 6:4  Hear, O Israel: The LORD (Yhovah) our God (Elohiym-Plural) is one (heiz) LORD  (Yhovah): 'ĕlôhîym gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural thus, especially with the article) of the supreme God; One (heiz) Lord means that Elohym (plural) is the only one or certain Mark 12:29  And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord (Kurios) our God  (Theos) is one Lord (Kurios): Jesus here in Mark 12:29  is obviously referring to Deut 6:4 Note that Theos  is used in the place of  Elohym which is plural. Therefore Theos can be used in the context of the Godhead by Jesus’ own use of the phrase. Exo 20:3  Thou shalt have no other gods (Elohiym) before me. Again Elohiym is used to indicate plurality. Consider: Genesis 1:1  In the beginning God (Elohiym-Plural)  created the heaven and the earth. Gen 1:26   And God (Elohiym-Plural)   said, Let US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness: In these two verses Elohiym is the Godhead. Come out of her ye sons and daughters of Arius.

Hi CB,
I think I understand.
Ps 97
9For You are the LORD Most High over all the earth;
You are exalted far above all gods[ELOYIM].
Number 430
Transliteration:
'elohiym {el-o-heem'}
Word Origin:
plural of 433
TWOT:
93c
Part of Speech:
noun masculine
Usage in the KJV:
God 2346, god 244, judge 5, GOD 1, goddess 2, great 2, mighty 2, angels 1, exceeding 1, God-ward 04136 1, godly 1

Total: 2606
Definition:
(plural)
rulers, judges
divine ones
angels
gods
(plural intensive – singular meaning)
god, goddess
godlike one
works or special possessions of God
the (true) God
God

Maybe there are many more gods in your godhead?
What about Judges and angelsas they are eloyim too?
The numbers are starting to stack up worryingly though.

[Cult Buster]

Look again NH. This time with your eyes open and no dancing around the truth. These scriptures are refering to God.

Genesis 1:1  In the beginning God (Elohiym-Plural)  created the heaven and the earth.

Gen 1:26   And God (Elohiym-Plural)   said, Let US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness:

H430
אלהים
'ĕlôhîym
el-o-heem'
Plural of H433; gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural thus, especially with the article) of the supreme God;

Genesis 1:1  In the beginning God (Elohiym-Plural)  created the heaven and the earth.

Gen 1:26   And God (Elohiym-Plural)   said, Let US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness:

and just in case you missed it again.

Genesis 1:1  In the beginning God (Elohiym-Plural)  created the heaven and the earth.

Gen 1:26   And God (Elohiym-Plural)   said, Let US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness:

Zec 7:11  But they refused to hearken, and pulled away the shoulder, and stopped their ears, that they should not hear.

[NickHassan]

Hi CB,
If you insist that Eloyim is referring to God then why limit God to three persons of your choosing?

Better still why not believe that God is the Father of Jesus, who is who he said he is, the Son of God rather than continuing down the path of dangerous and foolish speculation?

[Faith First]

Nh   We should follow the Holy Scriptures. There are three.

Matthew 28:19  Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

[NickHassan]

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Nh   We should follow the Holy Scriptures. There are three. Matthew 28:19  Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

HI FF,
Did the apostles err?
Thy did not seem to obey this command.
Perhaps we need witnessing verses that corroborate this verse.

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