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Hi Cubes,
Yes I agree. The seed of David, House of Judah, etc etc Yahshua was the one promised – the Messiah. 100% human born of human parents.
Amen
Hi RR,
To be man one only has to be of human flesh.Gen 3
” 19In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.Christ partook of flesh to be one of us.
Heb 2
14Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
14Therefore, since the children share in flesh and blood, He Himself likewise also partook of the same, that through death He might render powerless him who had the power of death, that is, the devil,”That says nothing of his divine origins.
To be able to “partake” of our flesh estate he must have existed.Hi Cubes,
I have never really looked at this verse before in any depth.Gal 3
“20Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.”Of course the mediator spoken of here is not Christ but Moses.
Ex 20
“19Then they said to Moses, “Speak to us yourself and we will listen; but let not God speak to us, or we will die.”Deut 5
“5while I was standing between the LORD and you at that time, to declare to you the word of the LORD; for you were afraid because of the fire and did not go up the mountain. He said, “Moses mediated with God.
God is One
Not three persons to mediate with but ONE.
God is ONE
Another nail in the trinity coffin.Quote Hi Cubes,
I have never really looked at this verse before in any depth.Gal 3
“20Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.”Of course the mediator spoken of here is not Christ but Moses.
Ex 20
“19Then they said to Moses, “Speak to us yourself and we will listen; but let not God speak to us, or we will die.”Deut 5
“5while I was standing between the LORD and you at that time, to declare to you the word of the LORD; for you were afraid because of the fire and did not go up the mountain. He said, “Moses mediated with God.
God is One
Not three persons to mediate with but ONE.
God is ONE
Another nail in the trinity coffin.Not so NH
Who was that next to the Father and was co-creator with the Father and the Holy Spirit?
I and my Father are One! God is one! Father Son and Holy Ghost!
Quote Hi Cubes, Yes I agree. The seed of David, House of Judah, etc etc Yahshua was the one promised – the Messiah. 100% human born of human parents.
Amen
Ramblinrose
Jesus was concieved in the virgin Mary by the Holy Spirit. And the Word was tabernacled among us.
No human parent's, 1 human parent Mary.
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 22 2006,22:37) Quote Hi Cubes,
I have never really looked at this verse before in any depth.Gal 3
“20Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.”Of course the mediator spoken of here is not Christ but Moses.
Ex 20
“19Then they said to Moses, “Speak to us yourself and we will listen; but let not God speak to us, or we will die.”Deut 5
“5while I was standing between the LORD and you at that time, to declare to you the word of the LORD; for you were afraid because of the fire and did not go up the mountain. He said, “Moses mediated with God.
God is One
Not three persons to mediate with but ONE.
God is ONE
Another nail in the trinity coffin.Not so NH
Who was that next to the Father and was co-creator with the Father and the Holy Spirit?
I and my Father are One! God is one! Father Son and Holy Ghost!
Hi W,
Can one be next to God and be the God they are next to?
Can the Father and the Son be one in being if they are father and son?
Where is Jesus called a co-creator or did you make this one up?
Jesus told us God is one.
Would he not have told us if the one actually was three and included himself?
Why add to his words-that is risky.Quote (t8 @ Dec. 22 2006,22:43) Not just risky, it is forbidden.
Sounds SOMEWHAT like the tree of knowlege warning!!! The day ye shall eat is the day ye shall die
QUICK SPIT IT OUT BROTHER
God bless t8
charity
NH]
Quote Hi W,
Can one be next to God and be the God they are next to?Don't you know the scriptures? There are three.
Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
In Whose names were you baptised?
Come out of Arianism
Hi CB,
Tradition cannot save you.
There is only one name under God in whom there is salvation.
You need to know the son of God and not deny him.
Which person in your trinity is the father of Jesus?NH
Quote Hi CB,
Tradition cannot save you.
There is only one name under God in whom there is salvation.
You need to know the son of God and not deny him.
Which person in your trinity is the father of Jesus?The Father and Son are each God.
Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.Mat 28:17 And when they saw him (Jesus), they worshipped him:
NH .You are denying your God Jesus Christ. Worship Him!
It seems that the scripture is your enemy because you deny the Bible truths while clinging to your Watchtower doctrines.
The Watchtower is a cult. Don't let them brainwash you.
John 9:41 Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth.
Hi CB,
IF for us there is ONE GOD then that God for us is the Father as He is the God of Jesus.
So if that God calls Jesus God does that mean I have two gods?
That God calls men and angels gods too so how many gods do we have?
One
God is God and can call whoever He likes a GOD without changing one thing in our lives.How many Gardeners are there? ONE
How many Vines are there? ONE
How many branches? Millions.
Is the vine more like the branches or the Gardener?
We can do nothing outside of the vine.Quote (Ramblinrose @ Dec. 22 2006,11:26) Hi Cubes, Yes I agree. The seed of David, House of Judah, etc etc Yahshua was the one promised – the Messiah. 100% human born of human parents.
Amen
RR,I still have some unresolved questions… I hope our discussions would bring us all into clearer and more accurate understanding of messiah. Looking forward to it.
Blessings.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 23 2006,03:19) Hi Cubes,
I have never really looked at this verse before in any depth.
Gal 3
“20Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.”Of course the mediator spoken of here is not Christ but Moses.
Ex 20
“19Then they said to Moses, “Speak to us yourself and we will listen; but let not God speak to us, or we will die.”Deut 5
“5while I was standing between the LORD and you at that time, to declare to you the word of the LORD; for you were afraid because of the fire and did not go up the mountain. He said, “Moses mediated with God.
God is One
Not three persons to mediate with but ONE.
God is ONE
Another nail in the trinity coffin.
Hi Nick,Yes, so there have been various mediators between God and men in varying capacities at one point or another, (e.g. Abraham, Jonah and Ninevah), but God saved the best for last: our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom he is able to redeem as many as believe to himself.
Quote (John 1:18) No man hath seen God at any time;… (1 John 4:12) No man hath seen God at any time. …
AP
If Jesus was “JUST” A man this would apply to him.
John 1
1] In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.Jn 6:46
Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.Why do men stop their ears to the truth before them?
II Peter 3:16
As also in all [his] epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as [they do] also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
Hi Cubes,
Yes and He demands we believe in the mediator and not just Himself.Jn 14
” 1Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.”Jn 11
” 25Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:26And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?”
Jn 9
” 35Jesus heard that they had cast him out; and when he had found him, he said unto him, Dost thou believe on the Son of God?36He answered and said, Who is he, Lord, that I might believe on him?
37And Jesus said unto him, Thou hast both seen him, and it is he that talketh with thee.”
Many are confused into thinking that believing in a trinity God is the message.
It is another gospel.WJ
Quote Why do men stop their ears to the truth before them? Quite simply they do not love Bible truths but would rather cling to their Arian doctrines.
2 Thessalonians 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
2:13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:Jesus is God
Col 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily
Phi 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus
Phi 2:6 Who being in the form of God thought it not robbery to be equal with GodRom 9:5 Whose are the fathers and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came who is over all God blessed for ever Amen
Tit 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ
1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness God was manifest in the flesh
1Jo 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding that we may know him that is true and we are in him that is true even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and eternal life.
Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Rev 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord (Jesus), which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us,..Mic 5:2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.
Heb 7:16 Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.
Mat 26:63 But Jesus held his peace. And the high priest answered and said unto him, I adjure thee by the living God, that thou tell us whether thou be the Christ, the Son of God.
Mat 26:64 Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.
Mat 26:65 Then the high priest rent his clothes, saying, He hath spoken blasphemy;(The high priest understood Jesus’ claim to be God and wrongly accused Him of blasphemy.)
Blasphemy can only be committed against God.Mat 9:2 And, behold, they brought to him a man sick of the palsy, lying on a bed: and Jesus seeing their faith said unto the sick of the palsy; Son, be of good cheer; thy sins be forgiven thee.
Mat 9:3 And, behold, certain of the scribes said within themselves, This man blasphemeth. (They knew that only God can forgive sins.)
Mat 9:4 And Jesus knowing their thoughts said, Wherefore think ye evil in your hearts?2Co 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
Col 1:15 (Christ) Who is the image of the invisible God,…
Heb 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
Heb 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
1Jo 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God(Jesus), and eternal life.
Isa 40:3 The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God(Jesus).
Rev 22:13 I (Jesus) am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Joh 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
Heb 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
Heb 1:10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:
Col 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
Mat 9:6 But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (then saith he to the sick of the palsy,) Arise, take up thy bed, and go unto thine house.
Mar 2:5 When Jesus saw their faith, he said unto the sick of the palsy, Son, thy sins be forgiven thee.
Mar 2:6 But there were certain of the scribes sitting there, and reasoning in their hearts,
Mar 2:7 Why doth this man thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only?Col 3:13 Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye.
Joh 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:
Joh 5:23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.Joh 14:1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
Rev 22:8 And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things.
Rev 22:9 Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.
Joh 9:38 And he said, Lord, I believe. And he worshipped him.
Mar 5:6 But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him,
Mat 28:17 And when they saw him, they worshipped him:
Mat 15:25 Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.
Mat 14:33 Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God.
Mat 8:2 And, behold, there came a leper and worshipped him,.Joh 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God (Theos).
Joh 20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.Jer 23:5 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
Jer 23:6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD (Yhovah)OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.Rev 2:23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.
Mar 2:28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.
Exo 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God:1Co 10:4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
Deu 32:3 Because I will publish the name of the LORD: ascribe ye greatness unto our God.
Deu 32:4 He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of
truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.
1Sa 2:2 There is none holy as the LORD: for there is none beside thee: neither is there any rock like our God.
1Sa 2:2 There is none holy as the LORD: for there is none beside thee: neither is there any rock like our God.
Psa 78:35 And they remembered that God was their rock, and the high God their redeemer.1Co 10:4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
Exo 20:1 And God spake all these words, saying,
Exo 20:2 I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
1Co 10:2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
1Co 10:4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.2Ti 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God and the Lord Jesus Christ who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
Mal 3:6 For I am the LORD (yhovah), I change not;
Heb 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.Exo 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
Joh 8:57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
Joh 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
Joh 8:59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: (because Jesus claimed the name of God)Joh 10:9 I am the door:
Joh 10:11 I am the good shepherd:
Joh 11:25 … I am the resurrection,
Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life:
Joh 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me?
Joh 15:1 I am the true vine,Joh 5:17 But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.
Joh 5:18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.Mat 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
Joh 14:1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.Acts 7:59, “And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.”
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