Melchizekek

[Oxy]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 13 2010,07:54)

Hi Oxy, The Word is of the Spirit. The Spirit of God in Christ is called the Spirit of Christ.[rom8] But in a wider sense as the Spirit is one the Holy Spirit can be called the Spirit of Christ[1peter1] Likewise as in 1 Cor 10 and since the Lord now is the Spirit, the Spirit that manifested to lead and guide the Israelites in the desert is called Christ.

So if the Holy Spirit is in fact Christ, why did Christ have to receive the Holy Spirit? And what of the Word of God speaking to so many people in the OT, and the Holy Spirit coming upon David, Goliath etc to empower them?

Also, in the New Testament, Jesus said He would return in the manner He left, but has sent us the Holy Spirit to comfort, guide teach etc.

There is a distinct difference between Father, Word (Son), and the Holy Spirit. Scripture is full of it.

[Oxy]

Oops.. Goliath? I meant Samson lol

[NickHassan]

Hi Oxy,
Jesus was called the Christ by the angels at his birth.
But Christ means the anointed one and his anointing was done by his God at the Jordan.
The Word of God is from the Spirit of God[2Peter 1, Jn6] and the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy[rev19]

That spirit of Christ inspired the prophets as 1Peter 1 tells us.
Jesus spoke of the return of himself and his Father as the Spirit in Jn 14-16.
That Spirit fills the body of Christ on earth and he will return to be one with that body soon.

[Oxy]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 13 2010,08:24)

Hi Oxy, Jesus was called the Christ by the angels at his birth. But Christ means the anointed one and his anointing was done by his God at the Jordan. The Word of God is from the Spirit of God[2Peter 1, Jn6] and the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy[rev19] That spirit of Christ inspired the prophets as 1Peter 1 tells us. Jesus spoke of the return of himself and his Father as the Spirit in Jn 14-16. That Spirit fills the body of Christ on earth and he will return to be one with that body soon.

Christ also means Messiah, so it was not out of place for Him to be called that.

Christ is also the Word of prophecy, being both the message and the messenger, revealed by the Holy Spirit in Him.

The Word of God is that same one.. the message (of the Messiah) and the Messiah.

[NickHassan]

Hi Oxy,
Yes and the anointing from God on him is what caused him to do God's works[Acts 10.38]
The Spirit of God spoke through him as in Jn2, 6

[Oxy]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 13 2010,08:38)

Hi Oxy, Yes and the anointing from God on him is what caused him to do God's works[Acts 10.38] The Spirit of God spoke through him as in Jn2, 6

No problems there Nick.

[NickHassan]

Hi Oxy,
But men worship the messenger vessel instead of the God in Him he sought to reconcile them with.[rom1, 2cor5]

[Oxy]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 13 2010,08:47)

Hi Oxy, But men worship the messenger vessel instead of the God in Him he sought to reconcile them with.[rom1, 2cor5]

It is good and right to worship Jesus as He is King of kings and Lord of lords, our wonderful Saviour and wonderful Husband of the Bride to come.

But yes, He did come to reconcile us to the Father and I worship Him in spirit and in truth. It's a different relationship from the one I have with the Word.

[NickHassan]

Hi Oxy,
Are you one with the one you worship?

[Oxy]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 13 2010,09:18)

Hi Oxy, Are you one with the one you worship?

Hi Nick,
I try to be one with Him, but my flesh gets in the way sometimes and I am trying to overcome that, but yes, for the most part I am one with Him.

[NickHassan]

Hi Oxy,
With the help of Christ's Spirit we worship the God of Israel in our temple body.[Rom8]

[NickHassan]

Hi,
So Melchizedek the man lived and Christ Jesus is of his order of priesthood.

[Oxy]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 13 2010,09:54)

Hi, So Melchizedek the man lived and Christ Jesus is of his order of priesthood.

I remain convinced that Melchizedek was the physical appearance of the Word of God as He had no beginning and no end and was the high priest of Almighty God. Later, when the Word was born of Mary and was called Jesus it was recognised that He was as Melchizedek (in fact one and the same).

[NickHassan]

Hi Oxy,
You stand alone in your opinion it seems.
Does scripture say Jesus IS Melchizedek?

[NickHassan]

Hi Oxy,
The Spirit of Christ was on him as nothing in God happens apart from the Spirit..

[Oxy]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 13 2010,11:05)

Hi Oxy, The Spirit of Christ was on him as nothing in God happens apart from the Spirit..

So who do you suggest He was Nick? I have found no other answer that makes any sense.

[NickHassan]

Hi Oxy,
Just what scripture says he was-a man, a priest and the king of Salem.
It is the fact that little is known of him that is used by the writer of Hebrews.

[Oxy]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 13 2010,19:37)

Hi Oxy, Just what scripture says he was-a man, a priest and the king of Salem. It is the fact that little is known of him that is used by the writer of Hebrews.

Melchizedek was the priest of the Most High God (as Jesus was)
King of righteousness and of peace, as was Jesus,
He received the tithe which was due God.
Abraham was still in the loins of his father when Melchizedek met him, how could this be except he was the Word of God?

I'm not saying I have all the answers on this, but Melchizedek was either man or God, and He wasn't man as such and because He was a priest, I suggest He was the Word of God in the flesh.. not to be mistaken for Jesus for Jesus came later, born as the Son of God.

[NickHassan]

Hi Oxy,
Similarity does not make sameness.
If scripture says he was a man would you agree?

[Oxy]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 13 2010,21:56)

Hi Oxy, Similarity does not make sameness. If scripture says he was a man would you agree?

Yes I would agree. Just as Jesus was man.

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