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Quote (Artizan007 @ April 05 2006,08:44) Hey Nick, Your'e so right, true every day is the Lord's, but not every day is set aside as a Holy rest day. We should be warming and lighting up our temple every day your are absolutely right… but one day in the week should we not just chill and enjoy God with as little distraction as possible. I don't have a preference as to which day, neither am I hard and fast on this…but God in his wisdom has said six days you must work and on the seventh rest… His wisdom, and for our own good I feel. it is an ideal – I guess, but not always possible.
Matt 13.52
“Therefore every scribe who has become a disciple of the kingdom of heaven is like the head of a household who brings forth out of his treasure things new and old”Nick how do you jump from scribe as a disciple to OT & NT treasure out of this verse. Was that because it said “things old and new” so it must mean OT and NT. I cant see how it is talking about old and new testament treasure, firstly the New Testament did not exist… and secondly, because the NT treasure did not exist for the scribe to gain knowledge to teach it – how is it possible to come to your conclusion…
I think it is too big a leap if you ask me. That is my thought – Your thoughts, how did you get to your conclusion.
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__Hey K,
In keeping your sabbath day,
Do you mean we need to keep a day holy, not watching tv, cooking, cleaning the house, making the bed, washing dishes, brushing your teeth etc… only spending time reading, family devotions etc and in quiet contemplation.
What if your child got sick on your Sabbath day – would you rush him/her off to the hospital, what if your mother fell down the stairs and was in trouble, would you go to her house to help her…if not then what would you do, sit at home in quiet contemplation. Is that for the better good of humanity… Would you stay at home and read or would you break the Sabbath rest and go to help your mum in her pain. I know what I would do… if i would do that then I am sure my father in heaven who is sooooo much bigger and just would do more than I do.
If you want to be great in the kingdom, be the servant of all…
007,
Right seek your Father all day. Spend time with your Father all day. If you can get your family involved that's even better.
Jesus made the Sabbath for man not man for the Sabbath. If anyone is sick take care of it. If your house is on fire put it out. There Sabbath is a delight not a burden. Why would your Father want to weigh you down with rules that Jesus did away with?!
Only God can separate and make a day holy not man.
If you notice the Sabbath is the only day in the bible with a name.
I really don't understand .What is wrong with spending time with your heavenly “DAD”. I call Him Dad and He likes it! Draw nigh to God and He will draw nigh to you. Jesus died so we can boldly go before the thrown of God. I'm going to use what He gave me The right of His Son.
The enemy tried to play God as he always does just look at what he did. He separated a day said it was holy and tried to make it take the place of the Sabbath, God's day.
Dan 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
He thinks to change the “times and the law”. He doesn't change anything. He “THINKS” to change the times and the law. He can't change the law only God can do that. But he has succeeded in fooling people for now but that will change if not now then in the seventh day one thousand year reign of Christ and His priest and kings.
I want to warn you the Sabbath is not easy your mind is not able to seek God for 24 hours. At first the enemy will blow his fiery darts at you. Any time you do God's will the enemy comes at you. So you can be ready for an exciting time “if you know who you are” and how small Satan is to God.
It depends on each person it can take as long as several weeks. Each Sabbath will get better and better as you spend time with your Father. And you can get ready for a “high time” during the week. Like anything the more you spend time with a person the more you get to know that person. It's the same with Jehovah the more time you spend time with Him the “closer” you will get to your Father and believe me the closer your are to Jesus' and your Father (in that order) the more you will want to be.
And again God always does His part He sent His Son. Now you have to do your part, NOT TO GET SAVED IF YOU WEREN'T SAVED YOU WOULD NEVER GET NEAR GOD. To show your love. Everyone say they love the Lord. If they love the Lord now how much more will you love God if you spend more time with Him.
Remember to ALWAYS keep you thoughts captive to the obedience of Christ. If you can do that the less trouble you will have.
Why did Jesus say we would do greater works than He if He went to the Father? BECAUSE WE CAN!! If we believe how many times did Jesus say that If you have faith the size of a mustard seed you could move a mountain.
Satan could not defeat the church so he joined it. And has indoctrinate his lies ever science. But we are in the last days Jesus is calling His people “out of her”. How many “independent” denominations has been trying to come out of her just in the last (Idon't know) 20 years? I hope you don't think that man had anything to do with it do you?
This is the calling right now:
Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.That's right be a servant. Do you see how wonderful God is!
Praise be to God the Father of the Savior of the world. Oh how I love thee the Son that died for me!
kenrch
ps I know you ment nothing by it but everything belongs to our Father. The Sabbath is not mine. I have nothing not even my life.
Quote (Ramblinrose @ April 05 2006,09:27) Artizan007 I believe the following answer the last part of your post.
Luke 13:15 The Lord then answered him, and said, Thou hypocrite, doth not each one of you on the sabbath loose his ox or his ass from the stall, and lead him away to watering? 16 And ought not this woman, being a daughter of Abraham, whom Satan hath bound, lo, these eighteen years, be loosed from this bond on the sabbath day?
Luke 14:5 And answered them, saying, Which of you shall have an ass or an ox fallen into a pit, and will not straightway pull him out on the sabbath day?
Whilst the Sabbath day should be kept Holy (set apart), this does not mean that you should not assist animals or people etc in need on that day. That is akin to the laws the pharisees added (not even allowed to carry anything as that was considered work). This was never the intent of the Sabbath.
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Praise God!
Hi ,
Jesus, while he lived, submitted to the Law and all it's demands. He had to, to completely fulfill that Law before he died. He lived in a time when the Law was still valid for all Jews including himself. It was only finished when he died.He related matters of the Law to those who were under that Law and explained to them the true meaning of aspects of the Law, including the Sabbath. He rebuked the hypocritical Pharisees, who were sitting in the seat of Moses with God's authority, because they failed to recognise the spirit of the law and to administer it correctly with mercy and not judgement.
His healing of the “daughter of Abraham” was an example of the overriding mercy of God expressed through him.
That has nothing to do with us gentiles except that we can learn from all his teachings.
Hi kenrch,
Rom 10.4 Paul teaching the new Jewish converts said” For Christ is the end of the Law for righteousness for everyone who believes.”
So those reborn into Christ from the Israelites as true believers had to let go of their insecurities. They had to break the habit of relying on their full and perfect observance of the OT Law unto righteousness to grasp a hold of the Law of freedom in Christ. They were so tempted to go back.
As Jesus said with tongue in cheek in Lk 5.39
“And no one, after drinking old wine wishes for new;for he says 'The old is enough'”
Of course it never applied to us gentiles anyway. We were lost outside of it. It is new wine or none at all.
My brother Kenrch
I appreciate your concern for me, as I'm concerned for you. I would like to make one more post regarding our discussion after that I believe we must agree to disagree least it become an argument which comes between us.Following the law consists primarily of a list of don'ts, rules which can only lead to pride if they could be adhered to. There is no Love in the law, it's purpose is so we know sin.
The law of Christ is more a list of do's, where we are active in showing God's love through our love for one another and, in doing so we fulfill the law.
Paul wrote “Are you so foolish? After beginning with the Spirit, are you now trying to attain your goal by human effort?” I believe this to mean that we are not condemned by the law if we are lead by the Spirit and when we're saved we are given God's Spirit. But if then we're putting our trust into adhering to the law we must keep the whole law but if that could be done then Christ died for nothing.
I do not teach that we should do away with the commandments, just, that we are not under the commandments. Without them how else would we know sin.
As far as Gentiles having to covert to Judaism during the tribulation this is only my opinion and not worth discussing any further (not that I wouldn't gladly explain further if you want information).
If I've taken what you've said wrong,please forgive me.
Hi st,
I was with you all the way till the last bit about the gentiles.In Christ we know “there is no longer Jew nor gentile” so this does not apply to us does it?
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 10 2006,01:32) Hi st,
I was with you all the way till the last bit about the gentiles.In Christ we know “there is no longer Jew nor gentile” so this does not apply to us does it?
Yes since the age of grace began there is no longer Jew or Gentile but I believe, that at the end of the age of grace, God will once again deal with Israel under the old covenant (hence the third Temple).This is just my opinion.
I woke up this morning and realized I had said old covenant when what I meant was the new covenant but no longer under the age of grace. In other words, the same as the apostles preached to the circumcision in the first half of Acts.
Ok, one last time. Where does scripture say that the seventh day Sabbath was done away with?
There are two kinds of Law one writen by God and one God gave Moses to write:
God's Law, the Law God wrote: The Ten Commandments (Deu. 10:1-5)
Deu 10:1 At that time Jehovah said unto me, Hew thee two tables of stone like unto the first, and come up unto me into the mount, and make thee an ark of wood.
Deu 10:2 And I will write on the tables the words that were on the first tables which thou brakest, and thou shalt put them in the ark.
Deu 10:3 So I made an ark of acacia wood, and hewed two tables of stone like unto the first, and went up into the mount, having the two tables in my hand.
Deu 10:4 And he wrote on the tables, according to the first writing, the ten commandments, which Jehovah spake unto you in the mount out of the midst of the fire in the day of the assembly: and Jehovah gave them unto me.
Deu 10:5 And I turned and came down from the mount, and put the tables in the ark which I had made; and there they are as Jehovah commanded me.Why did God give Moses law to write? Did God have writers cramp? He gave the law to Moses because that law was to be fulfilled by Christ.
Moses' Law, the Law God gave to Moses: The ritual sacrificial Law (Deu. 31:9 & 26)
Deu 31:9 And Moses wrote this law, and delivered it unto the priests the sons of Levi, that bare the ark of the covenant of Jehovah, and unto all the elders of Israel.
Deu 31:10 And Moses commanded them, saying, At the end of every seven years, in the set time of the year of release, in the feast of tabernacles
Deu 31:26 Take this book of the law, and put it by the side of the ark of the covenant of Jehovah your God, that it may be there for a witness against thee. (Col. 2:14)
Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;Notice that God wrote the Ten Commandments (not Moses) and Moses placed them IN THE ARK.
Notice the Law that God gave Moses to write (Moses' Law) then Moses Commanded them to be placed by the side of the ark by a priest. Also notice that the ritual/sacrificial law was “a witness against us”
God commanded Moses to place the Ten Commandments in the Ark.
Moses commanded the priest to place the Sacrifical Law which was given by God for him to write.This why it is called Moses Law, Moses wrote it and commanded it to be placed by the side (most say in the side).
1Ki 8:9 There was nothing in the ark save the two tables of stone which Moses put there at Horeb, when Jehovah made a covenant with the children of Israel, when they came out of the land of Egypt.
Solomon opened the ark and found only the Ten Commandments that God wrote. There were no sacrificial laws. This shows a separation of the Law and that the sacrificial laws would be fulfilled by Jesus the Christ and done away with.
Luk 24:44 And he said unto them, These are my words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must needs be fulfilled, which are written in the law of Moses, and the prophets, and the psalms, concerning me.
Jesus was the sacrificial lamb of God that paid our debt. When Jesus was crucified He fulfilled and did away with THAT LAW 'Moses' Law.
1Co 7:19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing; but the keeping of the commandments of God.
What matters is the keeping of the comandments of God.Col 2:14 having blotted out the bond written in ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us: and he hath taken it out that way, nailing it to the cross;
Col 2:16 For this reason let no man be your judge in any question of food or drink or feast days or new moons or Sabbaths:
What does the Ten Commandments have to do with Food, drink, feast days, new moons and annual Sabbaths? (BBE)
Clearly Col. 2:16 is speaking of ritual and sacrificial laws and NOT the Ten Commandments.
Paul's writings are hard to understand:
2Pe 3:15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also, according to the wisdom given to him, wrote unto you;
2Pe 3:16 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; wherein are some things hard to be understood, which the ignorant and unstedfast wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
2Pe 3:17 Ye therefore, beloved, knowing these things beforehand, beware lest, being carried away with the error of the wicked, ye fall from your own stedfastness.People say that Paul said that the Ten Commandment Law was done away with. Did He?
How could this same Paul (who's writings are hard to understand) keep,and teach on the Sabbath tell people that the Sabbath was done away with and now we are to worship on the first day (there was no name for any day except the seventh day)
Paul said: What matters is the keeping of God's commandments (1Cor. 7:19). How can Paul in Acts 17:2 keep the Sabbath and three chapters later keep the first day.Act 15:5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees who believed, saying, It is needful to circumcise them, and to charge them to keep the law of Moses. The Gentiles did not have to keep the law of Moses.
Act 20:7 And upon the first day of the week, when we were gathered together to break bread Paul discoursed with them, intending to depart on the morrow; and prolonged his speech until midnight.
They gathered together to break bread. But they broke bread everyday not just on the first day.
Act 2:46 And day by day, continuing stedfastly with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread at home, they took their food with gladness and singleness of heart..
1Co 16:1 Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye.
1Co 16:2 Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.
Why was Paul going to Corinth? To take a collection for the saints at Jerusalem, not to attend a Sunday worship.
Paul wanted the collection together so He could leave for Jerusalem right away. This was a regular first day when they did work and not rest. The collection was food not money. The first day they laboured to gather the collection of food.
Where does scripture say that the first day was the Sabbath or “New Sabbath” or even “THE” worship day. There is not one word that singles out the first day as a special day Other than Pentecoast. In fact the Sabbath is the only day that has a name.Paul kept the commandments if read carefully Paul's writings were speaking of the ritual sacrificial law. When spoke of the Ten as being the Law to point out sin he usually says something like: Are the commandments done away with? God forbid!
You cannot get away from the Law:
If you break the Law you sin! If you keep the Law you don't sin! (1John 3:4)
How can the Law be done away with?
Have heaven and earth passed away?
Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass away from the law, till all things be accomplished.
All things have not been accomplished:
1Co 15:26 The last enemy that shall be abolished is death.
God's peace to you all,
KenrchQuote (kenrch @ April 12 2006,23:55) Ok, one last time. Where does scripture say that the seventh day Sabbath was done away with? There are two kinds of Law one writen by God and one God gave Moses to write:
God's Law, the Law God wrote: The Ten Commandments (Deu. 10:1-5)
Deu 10:1 At that time Jehovah said unto me, Hew thee two tables of stone like unto the first, and come up unto me into the mount, and make thee an ark of wood.
Deu 10:2 And I will write on the tables the words that were on the first tables which thou brakest, and thou shalt put them in the ark.
Deu 10:3 So I made an ark of acacia wood, and hewed two tables of stone like unto the first, and went up into the mount, having the two tables in my hand.
Deu 10:4 And he wrote on the tables, according to the first writing, the ten commandments, which Jehovah spake unto you in the mount out of the midst of the fire in the day of the assembly: and Jehovah gave them unto me.
Deu 10:5 And I turned and came down from the mount, and put the tables in the ark which I had made; and there they are as Jehovah commanded me.Why did God give Moses law to write? Did God have writers cramp? He gave the law to Moses because that law was to be fulfilled by Christ.
Moses' Law, the Law God gave to Moses: The ritual sacrificial Law (Deu. 31:9 & 26)
Deu 31:9 And Moses wrote this law, and delivered it unto the priests the sons of Levi, that bare the ark of the covenant of Jehovah, and unto all the elders of Israel.
Deu 31:10 And Moses commanded them, saying, At the end of every seven years, in the set time of the year of release, in the feast of tabernacles
Deu 31:26 Take this book of the law, and put it by the side of the ark of the covenant of Jehovah your God, that it may be there for a witness against thee. (Col. 2:14)
Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;Notice that God wrote the Ten Commandments (not Moses) and Moses placed them IN THE ARK.
Notice the Law that God gave Moses to write (Moses' Law) then Moses Commanded them to be placed by the side of the ark by a priest. Also notice that the ritual/sacrificial law was “a witness against us”
God commanded Moses to place the Ten Commandments in the Ark.
Moses commanded the priest to place the Sacrifical Law which was given by God for him to write.This why it is called Moses Law, Moses wrote it and commanded it to be placed by the side (most say in the side).
1Ki 8:9 There was nothing in the ark save the two tables of stone which Moses put there at Horeb, when Jehovah made a covenant with the children of Israel, when they came out of the land of Egypt.
Solomon opened the ark and found only the Ten Commandments that God wrote. There were no sacrificial laws. This shows a separation of the Law and that the sacrificial laws would be fulfilled by Jesus the Christ and done away with.
Luk 24:44 And he said unto them, These are my words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must needs be fulfilled, which are written in the law of Moses, and the prophets, and the psalms, concerning me.
Jesus was the sacrificial lamb of God that paid our debt. When Jesus was crucified He fulfilled and did away with THAT LAW 'Moses' Law.
1Co 7:19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing; but the keeping of the commandments of God.
What matters is the keeping of the comandments of God.Col 2:14 having blotted out the bond written in ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us: and he hath taken it out that way, nailing it to the cross;
Col 2:16 For this reason let no man be your judge in any question of food or drink or feast days or new moons or Sabbaths:
What does the Ten Commandments have to do with Food, drink, feast days, new moons and annual Sabbaths? (BBE)
Clearly Col. 2:16 is speaking of ritual and sacrificial laws and NOT the Ten Commandments.
Paul's writings are hard to understand:
2Pe 3:15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also, according to the wisdom given to him, wrote unto you;
2Pe 3:16 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; wherein are some things hard to be understood, which the ignorant and unstedfast wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
2Pe 3:17 Ye therefore, beloved, knowing these things beforehand, beware lest, being carried away with the error of the wicked, ye fall from your own stedfastness.People say that Paul said that the Ten Commandment Law was done away with. Did He?
How could this same Paul (who's writings are hard to understand) keep,and teach on the Sabbath tell people that the Sabbath was done away with and now we are to worship on the first day (there was no name for any day except the seventh day)
Paul said: What matters is the keeping of God's commandments (1Cor. 7:19). How can Paul in Acts 17:2 keep the Sabbath and three chapters later keep the first day.Act 15:5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees who believed, saying, It is needful to circumcise them, and to charge them to keep the law of Moses. The Gentiles did not have to keep the law of Moses.
Act 20:7 And upon the first day of the week, when we were gathered together to break bread Paul discoursed with them, intending to depart on the morrow; and prolonged his speech until midnight.
They gathered together to break bread. But they broke bread everyday not just on the first day.
Act 2:46 And day by day, continuing stedfastly with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread at home, they took their food with gladness and singleness of heart..
1Co 16:1 Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye.
1Co 16:2 Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.
Why was Paul going to Corinth? To take a collection for the saints at Jerusalem, not to attend a Sunday worship.
Paul wanted the collection together so He could leave for Jerusalem right away. This was a regular first day when they did work and not rest. The collection was food not money. The first day they laboured to gather the collection of food.
Where does scripture say that the first day was the Sabbath or “New Sabbath” or even “THE” worship day. There is not one word that singles out the first day as a special day Other than Pentecoast. In fact the Sabbath is the only day that has a name.
Paul kept the commandments if read carefully Paul's writings were speaking of the ritual sacrificial law. When spoke of the Ten as being the Law to point out sin he usually says something like: Are the commandments done away with? God forbid!You cannot get away from the Law:
If you break the Law you sin! If you keep the Law you don't sin! (1John 3:4)
How can the Law be done away with?
Have heaven and earth passed away?
Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass away from the law, till all things be accomplished.
All things have not been accomplished:
1Co 15:26 The last enemy that shall be abolished is death.
God's peace to you all,
Kenrch
Hi kenrch,
So you would see a divis
ion between the Ten Commandments an the law of Moses?
Mt 7.10
“For Moses said
'Honour your father and your mother..'”
God gave this command to Moses but here Jesus attributes it to Moses himself.Thus the whole Law was given through Moses and it can also be all called the Law of Moses.
Nick, these are all of the scriptures that refer to Moses' law.
I think you'll find that ALL Moses' law were of a sacrifical nature and say nothing about the Ten Commandment Law of God.
The truth stands!
Luk 2:22 And when the days of their purification according to the law of Moses were fulfilled, they brought him up to Jerusalem, to present him to the Lord
Luk 24:44 And he said unto them, These are my words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must needs be fulfilled, which are written in the law of Moses, and the prophets, and the psalms, concerning me.
Joh 1:45 Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him, We have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, wrote, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph
Joh 7:19 Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you doeth the law? Why seek ye to kill me?
Joh 7:23 If a man receiveth circumcision on the sabbath, that the law of Moses may not be broken; are ye wroth with me, because I made a man every whit whole on the sabbath?
Joh 8:5 Now in the law Moses commanded us to stone such: what then sayest thou of her?
Act 13:39 and by him every one that believeth is justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses
Act 15:5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees who believed, saying, It is needful to circumcise them, and to charge them to keep the law of Moses.
Act 28:23 And when they had appointed him a day, they came to him into his lodging in great number; to whom he expounded the matter, testifying the kingdom of God, and persuading them concerning Jesus, both from the law of Moses and from the prophets, from morning till evening.
Rom 10:5 For Moses writeth that the man that doeth the righteousness which is of the law shall live thereby.
1Co 9:9 For it is written in the law of Moses, Thou shalt not muzzle the ox when he treadeth out the corn. Is it for the oxen that God careth,
Heb 9:19 For when every commandment had been spoken by Moses unto all the people according to the law, he took the blood of the calves and the goats, with water and scarlet wool and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book itself and all the people,
Heb 10:28 A man that hath set at nought Moses law dieth without compassion on the word of two or three witnesses:
Hi Kenrch,
When scripture says Abraham told the rich man in Hades in Lk 16.29 about his brothers
“They have Moses and the prophets “
was he excluding the ten commandments?
Were the ten commandments no use as a guide to them?Luk 16:29 But Abraham saith, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.
Where are the Ten Commandments? Moses' and the prophets what did the prophets prophecy?
Luk 24:44 And he said unto them, These are my words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must needs be fulfilled, which are written in the law of Moses, and the prophets, and the psalms, concerning me.
Quote (kenrch @ April 14 2006,03:49) Luk 16:29 But Abraham saith, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. Where are the Ten Commandments? Moses' and the prophets what did the prophets prophecy?
Luk 24:44 And he said unto them, These are my words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must needs be fulfilled, which are written in the law of Moses, and the prophets, and the psalms, concerning me.
Hi kenrch,
Heb 1.1f
” God, after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways, in these last days has spoken to us in His Son..”If you are legalistic you might look at this verse and say;
Thus God only spoke through the prophets.
He did not speak to us through the ten commandments.
He did not speak to us through Moses laws.But God gave all the Law through Moses, including the ten commandments, and Moses was a prophet too, so he is included in this verse as is all the OT.
Nick, you have no scriptual proof. By now you should know why. THEY ARE NONE!
The truth stands!
If you want to follow the harlot, then just say so but don't waste my time.
I have given you and others scripture after scripture and none of you have come up with any scripture.
You give scripture that does not say what you quote it to say.
I'm not going to argue and take up space on this forum because you don't want the truth. You are keeping a Catholic doctrine that I have proven is false teaching.
But I still love ya! Brother,
kenrch
Hi Kenrch ,
If you have any doubts about Moses being a prophet try
Acts 3.22, Jn 5.46, Jn 1.45.
Jn 1.17
” For THE LAW was given through Moses, grace and truth were realised through Jesus Christ”Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 14 2006,04:06) Hi Kenrch ,
If you have any doubts about Moses being a prophet try
Acts 3.22, Jn 5.46, Jn 1.45.
Jn 1.17
” For THE LAW was given through Moses, grace and truth were realised through Jesus Christ”
That's what I like about you Nick you always answer questions with questions when you have NO answers.Why do you keep giving (not asking) me the same questions
I'm sure you will answer this post because you have to have the last say—right or wrong.
The truth still stands, Nick you have no scripture.
Why do you defend the whore?
I don't know what you did when you “took off” but it didn't help. I'll have to double my payers.
I still love ya, Nick!
kenrch
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