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    clccpreacher
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    I enjoyed your article on the similarities between the gospel and the storyline of the movie matrix. My question to you is about the sinners prayer at the end. Many people believe praying this prayer will cause you to be saved . If Jesus said we did not choose Him but He chose us John 15:16, if the choice was made before the world was created Ephesians 1:1-4, do you think such a great gift as salvation should be merited on a prayer of sinful man, or according to grace through faith in a sovereign God, Ephesians 2:18

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    Proclaimer
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    The prayer is a suggestion and is only a start to seeking God. This is how I came to know God myself. I have also put the following information just after the prayer.
    "If you were serious about praying this prayer to God, then you have officially invited God to guide you in the ways of life and to perfect you. It is now important to seek Gods will for your life each day".

    As the scriptures say: "The man who does the will of God will remain forever".

    There is also scripture that says, "You do not have because you do not ask" and the prayer is about asking.
    Also when God chooses us, it is still up to us to respond.

    I was careful not to suggest anywhere on this site that saying this prayer means that one is saved, as I do not hold to this doctrine.

    Thanks for your question and encouragement and may you continue to challenge all things and make them subject unto Christ.

    #3947
    revteri
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    This was a very informative article on the Matrix. As someone who was delivered from the new age movement , I see this Matrix movie a liitle differently. Satan will come up with several “counterfeit Gospels” . The Matrix is a perfect example of a counterfeit Gospel. You are right that there are several similarities with the Gospel and the matrix. However your article I believe would sway one to think that Neo and the others are types, as in old test comparing to new. Just the opposite is true . Everything in this movie is counterfeiting Gods real stuff to deceive and prepare people for the great deceiver the anti-christ. every character in the movie has a demonic feel to it, it is hard to tell the good guys fron the bad guys, It reminds me of the taoism ying and yang philosophy. good=bad bad=good dark=light to finally satan=God
    the main guy, neo a counterfeit of Jesus
    Neo wears a black cape Jesus wears a white robe
    the movie is authored by the author of confusion
    Morpheus is a counterfeit john the baptist, Morpheus really is the false prophet
    Neo is the antichrist, does not the bible tell us that he will fake being resurrected
    neo moving from building mid-air has nothing to do with faith, it has to do with “feeling” and the antichrist will be doing counterfeit signs and wonders, counterfeiting Peter walking on water.

    I thank you for this article and hope this gives you another way to look at it.

    This movie has a huge following , a cult following, it is that sly deceiving pied-piper gathering up those he can.

    May God Bless You and the Ministry He has given you. Rev. Teri Johnson

    #3948
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    Hi revteri,

    Thx for your post and yes I agree with what you have said. One can see the anitchrist overtones if one wants to see it, same as one can see some buddhist overtones if one wants to see them.

    But even if it were true that this story came from the deceiver himself, I still do not have a problem using it as a parable to bring the gospel, because the gospel has the power to save all people as light shines through darkness and darkness cannot overcome it. So Satans darkness has no power over the light.

    Jesus often used parables when teaching about a spiritual truth and sometimes used stories of events that occured that appeared to not be inspired of God, but used them anyway if only to teach a lesson. E.g the story of the tower that fell on some people. But whatever the source of the story, Jesus taught good godly lessons from them and didn't concentrate or glorify the evil.

    If we are in Christ, then all things are clean to us and judging from the email I have had in response to this Matrix article, I can say that the fruit has been very good. I have even had complete atheists say that I helped them to understand that there is a God what faith is about and many Christians have written to me of the encouragment that my article gave them. So judging by the fruit at least, I can see that it is good. How can the gospel not be good?

    I am not too sure that the Matrix movie itself would give the same response, but it was the gospel that I preached in my article that made the difference.

    Depending on one's heart, a person with evil intent will be influenced by the same thing in different ways to a person with a pure heart. E.g. A trial or a series of so called bad luck may lead one person to be filled with anger and go on a murdering spree and to another he/she may learn patience. The only difference here being the persons heart and character.

    Those who are in pure in heart, will see truth and goodness and those who are evil cannot see these things. As it is written

    Matthew 5:8
    Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God.

    1 Corinthians 10:24-26
    23 “Everything is permissible”–but not everything is beneficial. “Everything is permissible”–but not everything is constructive.
    24 Nobody should seek his own good, but the good of others.
    25 Eat anything sold in the meat market without raising questions of conscience,
    26 for, “The earth is the Lord's, and everything in it.”

    Of course I am not alluding to you being evil, but that your interpretation stood out because of what you have seen in your past. But the gospel was preached in that article and what is it that I used this movie to preach the true gospel?

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