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Terra and EdJ,
Matthew 24 is a type of a dual prophecy. Jesus was talking about two events in this chapter. One was the destruction of Jerusalem in 70ad and also he was talking about what was to come on the world as in the great tribulation in the future after Jerusalems destruction.
Hi PR,
If Matt.24:29 says immediately after and Verse 30 says the following; how do you square that?
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days 30) they shall see
the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Does immediately after not mean immediately after; please explain how that can be?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEd and Terra,
All throughout the bible you can see DUALITY.
Example:
- *God made a physical creation and also a spiritual. One we can see and one we can't see.
*The Old Covenenant was based on Physical. The New Covenant was spiritual.
*At the first coming of Christ it was in weakness of flesh and the second coming He will be a powerfull Spirit being.These are just a few examples. If you made a list it would be pretty long indeed. As it is with prophecy. There is a TYPE and an ANTITYPE. The type is usually a smaller event which symbolizes the major. So Jerusalem was destroyed in 70Ad just as Jesus prophesized, and just as next will be the world in exactly the same way. And THEN will come Jesus is power and great glory.
Quote (shimmer @ Sep. 20 2011,15:35) Terra and EdJ, Matthew 24 is a type of a dual prophecy. Jesus was talking about two events in this chapter. One was the destruction of Jerusalem in 70ad and also he was talking about what was to come on the world as in the great tribulation in the future after Jerusalems destruction.
shimmeryou are absolutely right ,those verse have a double application
in 70 AD and at the time of the end of this age,
Pierre
Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 20 2011,15:39) Hi PR, If Matt.24:29 says immediately after and Verse 30 says the following; how do you square that?
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days 30) they shall see
the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Does immediately after not mean immediately after; please explain how that can be?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edjdo you know who his THEY ? in verse 30
Pierre
Edj,
Could you expand your comment about the book of matthew 24.20 being a moot point, read over it a couple times, even went back a page or two and still not seeing the passage as a moot point.
Thanks.
Quote (princess @ Sep. 20 2011,09:48) Edj, Could you expand your comment about the book of matthew 24.20 being a moot point, read over it a couple times, even went back a page or two and still not seeing the passage as a moot point.
Thanks.
Hi Princess,Matthew 24.20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
If it happened at one grandiose time, then why would Jesus need to say this? The northern hemisphere
has more people. But if it happens at different times for each person this verse indicates it will make a difference.I hope this answers your question? And nice to here from you.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (shimmer @ Sep. 20 2011,09:02) Ed and Terra, All throughout the bible you can see DUALITY.
Example:
- *God made a physical creation and also a spiritual. One we can see and one we can't see.
*The Old Covenenant was based on Physical. The New Covenant was spiritual.
*At the first coming of Christ it was in weakness of flesh and the second coming He will be a powerfull Spirit being.These are just a few examples. If you made a list it would be pretty long indeed. As it is with prophecy. There is a TYPE and an ANTITYPE. The type is usually a smaller event which symbolizes the major. So Jerusalem was destroyed in 70Ad just as Jesus prophesized, and just as next will be the world in exactly the same way. And THEN will come Jesus is power and great glory.
You got it nailed Shimmer. I agree.Hi Mark,
Atheists agree there is no God, so agreeing with fallacy means NOTHING!
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgAlso stating your personal opinions as biblical truth and infallible, makes you as guilty as the pope, IMHO, like saying that there was evil in God and it was removed by the cross as you have. I say what I believe as discussion, and say where I agree with what others say when they mirror my beliefs. YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, our OPINIONS mean nothing. Loveing Jesus and each other means EVERYTHING. Peace and Love-Mark
Good one Mark and Terra. Sorry I haven't logged in for a while. Hope your all well. And Princess and EdJ.
Quote (mikeangel @ Sep. 22 2011,22:08) (1)Also stating your personal opinions as biblical truth and infallible, makes you as guilty as the pope, IMHO, (2)like saying that there was evil in God and it was removed by the cross as you have. (3)I say what I believe as discussion, and say where I agree with what others say when they mirror my beliefs. (4)YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, our OPINIONS mean nothing. (5)Loveing Jesus and each other means EVERYTHING. Â Peace and Love-Mark
Hi Mark,1) I never said that?
2) I never said that either?
3) Great.
4) Acknowledged
5) Agreed.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org7) How evil was separated from GOD……………………..……………….…….…….page 11
†CrossHey Ed,
This is out of the table of contents from your book. Your book is written like so many other books on religion I read. They don't day “this is what I think and why”, they state the opinions as fact. “This is the way it is”. IMHO like the Catholic church stating assumptions and opinions as fact. To me not worth the risk of recieving the severest sentance or displeasing God. Like on here I believe Mikeboll and T8 have an opinion that Jesus was not God(the Father). Duh as the kids say. But then they separate him from the father and say he is not worthy to be worshipped. Is anything impossible for God? Can he represent himself in human form providing a perfect sacrifice for our salvation? IMHO YES! Anyway, Hope you are well and blessed. Love-MarkQuote (mikeangel @ Sep. 23 2011,21:56) 7) How evil was separated from GOD……………………..……………….…….…….page 11
†CrossHey Ed,
This is out of the table of contents from your book. Your book is written like so many other books on religion I read. They don't day “this is what I think and why”, they state the opinions as fact. “This is the way it is”. IMHO like the Catholic church stating assumptions and opinions as fact. To me not worth the risk of recieving the severest sentance or displeasing God. Like on here I believe Mikeboll and T8 have an opinion that Jesus was not God. Duh as the kids say. But then they separate him from the father and say he is not worthy to be worshipped. Is anything impossible for God? Can he represent himself in human form providing a perfect sacrifice for our salvation? IMHO YES! Anyway, Hope you are well and blessed. Love-Mark
Hi Mark,A. Do you believe Satan is evil?
B. Do you believe God separated Satan form him?If you believe both A and B, the C. how was it done?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEd I believe God is perfect. Always has been, always will be. Once Satan tried to be God, he was condemned, and he wants to destroy as many as possible to join him, he is evil, imperfect, unloving, Lying, coniving , the oppisite of God. God has NEVER had evil in him. No mingling IMHO. Love, Mark.
Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 24 2011,05:14) Quote (mikeangel @ Sep. 23 2011,21:56) 7) How evil was separated from GOD……………………..……………….…….…….page 11
†CrossHey Ed,
This is out of the table of contents from your book. Your book is written like so many other books on religion I read. They don't day “this is what I think and why”, they state the opinions as fact. “This is the way it is”. IMHO like the Catholic church stating assumptions and opinions as fact. To me not worth the risk of recieving the severest sentance or displeasing God. Like on here I believe Mikeboll and T8 have an opinion that Jesus was not God. Duh as the kids say. But then they separate him from the father and say he is not worthy to be worshipped. Is anything impossible for God? Can he represent himself in human form providing a perfect sacrifice for our salvation? IMHO YES! Anyway, Hope you are well and blessed. Love-Mark
Hi Mark,A. Do you believe Satan is evil?
B. Do you believe God separated Satan form him?If you believe both A and B, then C: how was it done?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi Mark,OK, you agree with point lettered “A”; great!.
Do you also agree with point lettered “B”?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHey Ed,
 Your “B” , doesn't make any sense to me. God is from forever to forever. and good and rightious and perfect-forever. Because Satan fell and got too much pride and became jelious of God, he tried to become God. He was then banished out of heavan. That doesn't have anything to do with God being evil or having it separated out of himself. Thrown out of God's domain is not out of him personally.  Now for what you say, as far as we go, we are separated from evil by the cross. Your statement applies to us, not God.  God has never had any evil in him, only his creations who rebell against him and his law are.  I am taking a guess and assuming that thats why you say you do not sin, because you have been separated from evil by the cross.  You take a round about way of putting it, but as I read it, you claim sinlessness, and Tim claims sinlessness and lawlessness. I can't wrap my head around it, but it doesn't matter what I think.  Have a nice Sunday-
 Love MarkQuote (mikeangel @ Sep. 25 2011,20:06) Hey Ed,  Your “B” , doesn't make any sense to me. God is from forever to forever. and good and rightious and perfect-forever. Because Satan fell and got too much pride and became jelious of God, he tried to become God. He was then banished out of heavan. That doesn't have anything to do with God being evil or having it separated out of himself. Thrown out of God's domain is not out of him personally.  Now for what you say, as far as we go, we are separated from evil by the cross. Your statement applies to us, not God.  God has never had any evil in him, only his creations who rebell against him and his law are.  I am taking a guess and assuming that thats why you say you do not sin, because you have been separated from evil by the cross.  You take a round about way of putting it, but as I read it, you claim sinlessness, and Tim claims sinlessness and lawlessness. I can't wrap my head around it, but it doesn't matter what I think.  Have a nice Sunday-
 Love Mark
Hi Mark,Do you understand this verse?
That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me,
and I in thee, that they also may be one in us. (John 17:21)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
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