Man verbalizes what many think

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,

So the one who demands answers never gives them?

1Tim 2

For there is one God and one mediator also between God and man the MAN Jesus Christ

But you offer that he was not truly a man but born enlivened by the Holy Spirit or have we got it wrong?

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,

You say

Your Jesus was just an ordinary fellow nullifies Psalms 49:7

“None of them(all ye inhabitants of the world) can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him”

 

Surely you must know God is the Redeemer?

Basic stuff

[kerwin]

Nick,

Hi KW,

Should you make STATEMENTS you cannot support from scripture?

Surely opinions are irrelevant

It is an honest opinion based on the knowledge that premature children are tempted by their own desires from the time they are born. As far as I know Scripture does not mention when human beings are first tempted by sin.

[kerwin]

Ed,

Hi Nick,

Your Jesus was just an ordinary fellow nullifies Psalms 49:7

“None of them(all ye inhabitants of the world) can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him”

…but the Scripture CANNOT be broken!

Who is “them”?

The answer is irrelevant as Nicks point is true.

[NickHassan]

Hi KW.

You say

“It is an honest opinion based on the knowledge that premature children are tempted by their own desires from the time they are born. As far as I know Scripture does not mention when human beings are first tempted by sin.”

PREMATURE children?

What evidence do you offer for this opinion?

 

And are children not under the faith of their parents?

1Cor7

¹⁴ For the unbelieving husband is sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified through her believing husband; for otherwise your children are unclean, but now they are holy.

Sin is in the eyes of God.

 

[NickHassan]

 

Hi KW,

 You think this applies to PREMATURE babies after birth?

James 1:14-16

¹⁴ But each one is tempted when he is carried away and enticed by his own lust. ¹⁵ Then when lust has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and when sin ^[is accomplished, it brings forth death. ¹⁶ Do not be ^[deceived, my beloved brethren.

[kerwin]

Nick,

I am not sure what Paul means by 1 Corinthians 7 for each is judged according to his own sins. Children are not accountable for their sins. Never the less Jesus did not sin as a child.

They certainly seem to be tempted by human desires.

Also remember John recognized Mary.

[Ed J]

Hi ED,

So the one who demands answers never gives them?

But you offer that he was not truly a man but born enlivened by the Holy Spirit or have we got it wrong?

Hi Nick,

I always answer clearly defined questions – you got it wrong

Always being conditional on if my questions are being answered or not. (see ref. Matt 21:24-25)

[NickHassan]

Hi KW,

All human desires are evil?

If we did not have them would be not starve?

 

John recognised Mary?

Jesus was born of woman jb 25, Gal4.4

[NickHassan]

Hi Ed,

So you lord it over others and set yourself up as arbitrator of the questions?
By whose authority?

[Ed J]

Hi ED,

You say

Your Jesus was just an ordinary fellow nullifies Psalms 49:7

“None of them(all ye inhabitants of the world) can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him”

Surely you must know God is the Redeemer?

Basic stuff

Hi Nick,

It would seem there is no room for Gal 3:13 in your bible

“Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law” (Gal 3:13)

[Ed J]

Ed,

Hi Nick,

Your Jesus was just an ordinary fellow nullifies Psalms 49:7

“None of them(all ye inhabitants of the world) can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him”

…but the Scripture CANNOT be broken!

(1)Who is “them”?

(2)The answer is irrelevant as Nicks point is true.

Hi Kerwin,

1) “all ye inhabitants of the world”
2) You saying you agree with Nick is irrelevant to whether Nick is right or not

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God bless
Ed J

[Ed J]

Hi Ed,

(1)So you lord it over others and set yourself up as arbitrator of the questions?
(2)By whose authority?

Hi Nick,

If you want answers be try to ask clear and concise questions.
Question #2 is based on statement #1 which is not well defined.

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God bless
Ed J

[kerwin]

Ed,

Only God saves. He saves believers through their faith that Jesus is the Christ. Thus God chose Jesus to be the savior of humanity.

[kerwin]

Ed,

You have the wrong “them” as the Psalms is speaking to the inhabitants of the world about “They that trust in their wealth,
and boast themselves in the multitude of their riches” (Psalms 49:6)

I assure you that Jesus has never belonged to the group that are “They that trust in their wealth,
and boast themselves in the multitude of their riches”.

2 Samuel 22:3Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

3
the God of my rock; in him will I trust:
he is my shield, and the horn of my salvation,
my high tower, and my refuge, my saviour;
thou savest me from violence.

Psalm 127:1Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
Psalm 127
1
Except the Lord build the house, they labour in vain that build it:
except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain.

Without God Jesus saves in vain and without Jesus there is no way to God.

You cannot have one without the other.

[Ed J]

“Except the LORD build the house, they labor in vain that build it” (Psalms 127:1)

Hi Kerwin,

“And Moses verily was faithful in all his house, as a servant, for a testimony of those things
which were to be spoken after; But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we,
if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end.” (Heb 3:5-6)

Not an ordinary fellow, but as a son over his own house.

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God bless
Ed J

[kerwin]

Ed,

Jesus is an ordinary fellow who God set apart and gave his Spirit. (John 10:34-38)

Moses was not given the Spirit of God in the same way for all he could do was speak the word of God as he was carried along by it.

Jesus, a believer, did the word of God as he was carried along by it and through faith they he is the Christ believers can do the same. Moses is one of those believers.

[NickHassan]

Hi Ed,

If you deny that Jesus was a man like us you deny scripture.

If you deny he had a human spirit you deny he is a man.

If you say he was born anointed you deny his anointing.

 

You are cut adrift from the anchor for your soul.

[kerwin]

Ed,

I spotted an error in what I wrote

Jesus, a believer, did the word of God as he was carried along by it and through faith [that] he is the Christ believers can do the same. Moses is one of those believers.

[Ed J]

“None of them(all ye inhabitants of the world) can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him”

Ed,

You have the wrong “them” as the Psalms is speaking to the inhabitants of the world about “They that trust in their wealth,
and boast themselves in the multitude of their riches” (Psalms 49:6)

Hi Kerwin,

Are you suggesting that any poor person can redeem their brother
and any poor person can give to God a ransom for him? y/n
(remember “I don’t know” is also an acceptable answer)

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God bless
Ed J

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