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Quote (Ed J @ April 02 2012,15:39) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 02 2012,11:21) Quote (Ed J @ April 02 2012,10:54) Hi BD, 2 Corinthians 2:14-17 Now thanks be unto God, which always causeth us [Christians] to triumph in Christ,
and maketh manifest the savour of his knowledge by us in every place. For we are unto God a sweet savour
of Christ, in them that are saved, and in them that perish: To the one we are the savour of death unto death;
and to the other the savour of life unto life. And who is sufficient for these things? For we are not as many,
which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)
עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)
Why do you keep inserting things in the scriptures you don't believe that a Jew who accepted Christ triumphed in Christ?
Hi BD,Do you even know, BD, what the term “Christian” even means?
Gal 3:27-29 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for
ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)
This has nothing to do with being called Christian because it points not to Christ but being in Christ pointing to Abraham.Quote (Ed J @ April 02 2012,16:19) Hi BD, 1 John 4:13-15 Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his [HolySpirit].
And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world. Whosoever
shall confess that JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.
You cannot have your own personal “Pentecost” as long as you deny the truth.“He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.” (1John 2:22)
יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)
עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)
When you say denying Father and Son you seem to not understand that the rejection is not in the Beings of God and Christ it is in the terms Father and Son.What you are saying is that if someone says God should not be called a literal Father but “God Almighty” instead, that person doesn't believe in God or if someone says Jesus is the Messiah/Christ and not a literal son of God then that person doesn't accept or believe in Christ.
so your salvation is based upon semantics and numbers?
Quote (bodhitharta @ April 03 2012,02:32) Quote (Ed J @ April 02 2012,16:19) Hi BD, 1 John 4:13-15 Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his [HolySpirit].
And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world. Whosoever
shall confess that JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.
You cannot have your own personal “Pentecost” as long as you deny the truth.“He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.” (1John 2:22)
יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)
עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)
When you say denying Father and Son you seem to not understand that the rejection is not in the Beings of God and Christ it is in the terms Father and Son.What you are saying is that if someone says God should not be called a literal Father but “God Almighty” instead, that person doesn't believe in God or if someone says Jesus is the Messiah/Christ and not a literal son of God then that person doesn't accept or believe in Christ.
so your salvation is based upon semantics and numbers?
Salvation is based on the Gospel of Jesus ChristMoreover, brethren, I(the Apostle Paul) declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you,
…how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried,
and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: (1 Cor 15:1…4)
Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto
you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.Quote (bodhitharta @ April 03 2012,02:25) Quote (Ed J @ April 02 2012,15:39) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 02 2012,11:21) Quote (Ed J @ April 02 2012,10:54) Hi BD, 2 Corinthians 2:14-17 Now thanks be unto God, which always causeth us [Christians] to triumph in Christ,
and maketh manifest the savour of his knowledge by us in every place. For we are unto God a sweet savour
of Christ, in them that are saved, and in them that perish: To the one we are the savour of death unto death;
and to the other the savour of life unto life. And who is sufficient for these things? For we are not as many,
which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)
עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)
Why do you keep inserting things in the scriptures you don't believe that a Jew who accepted Christ triumphed in Christ?
Hi BD,Do you even know, BD, what the term “Christian” even means?
Gal 3:27-29 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for
ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)
This has nothing to do with being called Christian because it points not to Christ but being in Christ pointing to Abraham.
1 John 2:2 [Jesus Christ] is the propitiation for our sins:
and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.Heb 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy,
who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant,
wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?Quote (Ed J @ April 03 2012,06:54) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 03 2012,02:32) Quote (Ed J @ April 02 2012,16:19) Hi BD, 1 John 4:13-15 Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his [HolySpirit].
And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world. Whosoever
shall confess that JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.
You cannot have your own personal “Pentecost” as long as you deny the truth.“He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.” (1John 2:22)
יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)
עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)
When you say denying Father and Son you seem to not understand that the rejection is not in the Beings of God and Christ it is in the terms Father and Son.What you are saying is that if someone says God should not be called a literal Father but “God Almighty” instead, that person doesn't believe in God or if someone says Jesus is the Messiah/Christ and not a literal son of God then that person doesn't accept or believe in Christ.
so your salvation is based upon semantics and numbers?
Salvation is based on the Gospel of Jesus ChristMoreover, brethren, I(the Apostle Paul) declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you,
…how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried,
and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: (1 Cor 15:1…4)
Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto
you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Luke 2:25-32 And, behold, there was a man in Jerusalem, whose name was Simeon; and the same man
was just and devout, waiting for the consolation of Israel: and the HolySpirit was upon him. And it was
revealed unto him by the HolySpirit, that he should not see death, before he had seen the Lord's Christ.And he came by the Spirit into the temple: and when the parents brought in the child Jesus, to do
for him after the custom of the law, Then took he him up in his arms, and blessed God, and
said, Lord, now lettest thou thy servant depart in peace, according to thy word:For mine eyes have seen thy salvation, Which thou hast prepared before
the face of all people; A light to lighten the Gentiles, and the glory of thy people Israel.Quote (Ed J @ April 03 2012,07:03) Quote (Ed J @ April 03 2012,06:54) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 03 2012,02:32) Quote (Ed J @ April 02 2012,16:19) Hi BD, 1 John 4:13-15 Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his [HolySpirit].
And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world. Whosoever
shall confess that JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.
You cannot have your own personal “Pentecost” as long as you deny the truth.“He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.” (1John 2:22)
יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)
עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)
When you say denying Father and Son you seem to not understand that the rejection is not in the Beings of God and Christ it is in the terms Father and Son.What you are saying is that if someone says God should not be called a literal Father but “God Almighty” instead, that person doesn't believe in God or if someone says Jesus is the Messiah/Christ and not a literal son of God then that person doesn't accept or believe in Christ.
so your salvation is based upon semantics and numbers?
Salvation is based on the Gospel of Jesus ChristMoreover, brethren, I(the Apostle Paul) declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you,
…how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried,
and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: (1 Cor 15:1…4)
Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto
you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Luke 2:25-32 And, behold, there was a man in Jerusalem, whose name was Simeon; and the same man
was just and devout, waiting for the consolation of Israel: and the HolySpirit was upon him. And it was
revealed unto him by the HolySpirit, that he should not see death, before he had seen the Lord's Christ.And he came by the Spirit into the temple: and when the parents brought in the child Jesus, to do
for him after the custom of the law, Then took he him up in his arms, and blessed God, and
said, Lord, now lettest thou thy servant depart in peace, according to thy word:For mine eyes have seen thy salvation, Which thou hast prepared before
the face of all people; A light to lighten the Gentiles, and the glory of thy people Israel.
I have no problem with thatQuote (bodhitharta @ April 03 2012,11:28) Quote (Ed J @ April 03 2012,07:03) Quote (Ed J @ April 03 2012,06:54) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 03 2012,02:32) Quote (Ed J @ April 02 2012,16:19) Hi BD, 1 John 4:13-15 Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his [HolySpirit].
And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world. Whosoever
shall confess that JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.
You cannot have your own personal “Pentecost” as long as you deny the truth.“He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.” (1John 2:22)
יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)
עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)
When you say denying Father and Son you seem to not understand that the rejection is not in the Beings of God and Christ it is in the terms Father and Son.What you are saying is that if someone says God should not be called a literal Father but “God Almighty” instead, that person doesn't believe in God or if someone says Jesus is the Messiah/Christ and not a literal son of God then that person doesn't accept or believe in Christ.
so your salvation is based upon semantics and numbers?
Salvation is based on the Gospel of Jesus ChristMoreover, brethren, I(the Apostle Paul) declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you,
…how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried,
and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: (1 Cor 15:1…4)
Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto
you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Luke 2:25-32 And, behold, there was a man in Jerusalem, whose name was Simeon; and the same man
was just and devout, waiting for the consolation of Israel: and the HolySpirit was upon him. And it was
revealed unto him by the HolySpirit, that he should not see death, before he had seen the Lord's Christ.And he came by the Spirit into the temple: and when the parents brought in the child Jesus, to do
for him after the custom of the law, Then took he him up in his arms, and blessed God, and
said, Lord, now lettest thou thy servant depart in peace, according to thy word:For mine eyes have seen thy salvation, Which thou hast prepared before
the face of all people; A light to lighten the Gentiles, and the glory of thy people Israel.
I have no problem with that
Hi BD,But as a follower of the 'false prophet' Muhammad, you do have a problem with Jesus words here though, right?
Mark 8:31 And[Jesus] began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected
of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again.Matt 16:21 From that time forth began Jesus to show unto his disciples,
how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders
and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)
Quote (Ed J @ April 03 2012,14:12) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 03 2012,11:28) Quote (Ed J @ April 03 2012,07:03) Quote (Ed J @ April 03 2012,06:54) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 03 2012,02:32) Quote (Ed J @ April 02 2012,16:19) Hi BD, 1 John 4:13-15 Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his [HolySpirit].
And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world. Whosoever
shall confess that JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.
You cannot have your own personal “Pentecost” as long as you deny the truth.“He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.” (1John 2:22)
יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)
עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)
When you say denying Father and Son you seem to not understand that the rejection is not in the Beings of God and Christ it is in the terms Father and Son.What you are saying is that if someone says God should not be called a literal Father but “God Almighty” instead, that person doesn't believe in God or if someone says Jesus is the Messiah/Christ and not a literal son of God then that person doesn't accept or believe in Christ.
so your salvation is based upon semantics and numbers?
Salvation is based on the Gospel of Jesus ChristMoreover, brethren, I(the Apostle Paul) declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you,
…how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried,
and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: (1 Cor 15:1…4)
Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto
you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Luke 2:25-32 And, behold, there was a man in Jerusalem, whose name was Simeon; and the same man
was just and devout, waiting for the consolation of Israel: and the HolySpirit was upon him. And it was
revealed unto him by the HolySpirit, that he should not see death, before he had seen the Lord's Christ.And he came by the Spirit into the temple: and when the parents brought in the child Jesus, to do
for him after the custom of the law, Then took he him up in his arms, and blessed God, and
said, Lord, now lettest thou thy servant depart in peace, according to thy word:For mine eyes have seen thy salvation, Which thou hast prepared before
the face of all people; A light to lighten the Gentiles, and the glory of thy people Israel.
I have no problem with that
Hi BD,But as a follower of the 'false prophet' Muhammad, you do have a problem with Jesus words here though, right?
Mark 8:31 And[Jesus] began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected
of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again.Matt 16:21 From that time forth began Jesus to show unto his disciples,
how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders
and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)
No, i don't have a problem with that either because it would make perfect sense that Jesus would say thes ethings because he was aware of this plot but still he had hoped that God would even spare him from all this saying “take this cup from me” this proves 100% he was not willing and it is the Muslim belief that God “Heard him” as in the case of IshmaelGenesis 21:17-18
King James Version (KJV)
17And God heard the voice of the lad; and the angel of God called to Hagar out of heaven, and said unto her, What aileth thee, Hagar? fear not; for God hath heard the voice of the lad where he is.
18Arise, lift up the lad, and hold him in thine hand; for I will make him a great nation.
God has this Power to save
Psalm 106:8
Nevertheless he saved them for his name's sake, that he might make his mighty power to be known.God has the Power to save and to triumph
Quote (bodhitharta @ April 03 2012,14:26) Quote (Ed J @ April 03 2012,14:12) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 03 2012,11:28) Quote (Ed J @ April 03 2012,07:03) Quote (Ed J @ April 03 2012,06:54) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 03 2012,02:32) Quote (Ed J @ April 02 2012,16:19) Hi BD, 1 John 4:13-15 Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his [HolySpirit].
And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world. Whosoever
shall confess that JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.
You cannot have your own personal “Pentecost” as long as you deny the truth.“He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.” (1John 2:22)
יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)
עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)
When you say denying Father and Son you seem to not understand that the rejection is not in the Beings of God and Christ it is in the terms Father and Son.What you are saying is that if someone says God should not be called a literal Father but “God Almighty” instead, that person doesn't believe in God or if someone says Jesus is the Messiah/Christ and not a literal son of God then that person doesn't accept or believe in Christ.
so your salvation is based upon semantics and numbers?
Salvation is based on the Gospel of Jesus ChristMoreover, brethren, I(the Apostle Paul) declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you,
…how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried,
and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: (1 Cor 15:1…4)
Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto
you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Luke 2:25-32 And, behold, there was a man in Jerusalem, whose name was Simeon; and the same man
was just and devout, waiting for the consolation of Israel: and the HolySpirit was upon him. And it was
revealed unto him by the HolySpirit, that he should not see death, before he had seen the Lord's Christ.And he came by the Spirit into the temple: and when the parents brought in the child Jesus, to do
for him after the custom of the law, Then took he him up in his arms, and blessed God, and
said, Lord, now lettest thou thy servant depart in peace, according to thy word:For mine eyes have seen thy salvation, Which thou hast prepared before
the face of all people; A light to lighten the Gentiles, and the glory of thy people Israel.
I have no problem with that
Hi BD,But as a follower of the 'false prophet' Muhammad, you do have a problem with Jesus words here though, right?
Mark 8:31 And[Jesus] began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected
of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again.Matt 16:21 From that time forth began Jesus to show unto his disciples,
how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders
and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)
No, i don't have a problem with that either because it would make perfect sense that Jesus would say thes ethings because he was aware of this plot but still he had hoped that God would even spare him from all this saying “take this cup from me” this proves 100% he was not willing and it is the Muslim belief that God “Heard him” as in the case of IshmaelGenesis 21:17-18
King James Version (KJV)
17And God heard the voice of the lad; and the angel of God called to Hagar out of heaven, and said unto her, What aileth thee, Hagar? fear not; for God hath heard the voice of the lad where he is.
18Arise, lift up the lad, and hold him in thine hand; for I will make him a great nation.
God has this Power to save
Psalm 106:8
Nevertheless he saved them for his name's sake, that he might make his mighty power to be known.God has the Power to save and to triumph
Hi BD, no?Is it not true that muslims do in fact deny the gospel:
the death burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ?עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)
Quote (Ed J @ April 03 2012,15:50) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 03 2012,14:26) Quote (Ed J @ April 03 2012,14:12) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 03 2012,11:28) Quote (Ed J @ April 03 2012,07:03) Quote (Ed J @ April 03 2012,06:54) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 03 2012,02:32) Quote (Ed J @ April 02 2012,16:19) Hi BD, 1 John 4:13-15 Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his [HolySpirit].
And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world. Whosoever
shall confess that JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.
You cannot have your own personal “Pentecost” as long as you deny the truth.“He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.” (1John 2:22)
יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)
עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)
When you say denying Father and Son you seem to not understand that the rejection is not in the Beings of God and Christ it is in the terms Father and Son.What you are saying is that if someone says God should not be called a literal Father but “God Almighty” instead, that person doesn't believe in God or if someone says Jesus is the Messiah/Christ and not a literal son of God then that person doesn't accept or believe in Christ.
so your salvation is based upon semantics and numbers?
Salvation is based on the Gospel of Jesus ChristMoreover, brethren, I(the Apostle Paul) declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you,
…how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried,
and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: (1 Cor 15:1…4)
Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto
you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Luke 2:25-32 And, behold, there was a man in Jerusalem, whose name was Simeon; and the same man
was just and devout, waiting for the consolation of Israel: and the HolySpirit was upon him. And it was
revealed unto him by the HolySpirit, that he should not see death, before he had seen the Lord's Christ.And he came by the Spirit into the temple: and when the parents brought in the child Jesus, to do
for him after the custom of the law, Then took he him up in his arms, and blessed God, and
said, Lord, now lettest thou thy servant depart in peace, according to thy word:For mine eyes have seen thy salvation, Which thou hast prepared before
the face of all people; A light to lighten the Gentiles, and the glory of thy people Israel.
I have no problem with that
Hi BD,But as a follower of the 'false prophet' Muhammad, you do have a problem with Jesus words here though, right?
Mark 8:31 And[Jesus] began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected
of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again.Matt 16:21 From that time forth began Jesus to show unto his disciples,
how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders
and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)
No, i don't have a problem with that either because it would make perfect sense that Jesus would say thes ethings because he was aware of this plot but still he had hoped that God would even spare him from all this saying “take this cup from me” this proves 100% he was not willing and it is the Muslim belief that God “Heard him” as in the case of IshmaelGenesis 21:17-18
King James Version (KJV)
17And God heard the voice of the lad; and the angel of God called to Hagar out of heaven, and said unto her, What aileth thee, Hagar? fear not; for God hath heard the voice of the lad where he is.
18Arise, lift up the lad, and hold him in thine hand; for I will make him a great nation.
God has this Power to save
Psalm 106:8
Nevertheless he saved them for his name's sake, that he might make his mighty power to be known.God has the Power to save and to triumph
Hi BD, no?Is it not true that muslims do in fact deny the gospel:
the death burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ?עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)
Te death, burial and resurrection is not the GospelThis is what Jesus said:
Luke 4:18
The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the po
or; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,Where do you see death, burial and resurrection in that list?
Quote (bodhitharta @ April 04 2012,14:02) Quote (Ed J @ April 03 2012,15:50)
Hi BD,Is it not true that muslims do in fact deny the gospel:
the death burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ?עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)
Te death, burial and resurrection is not the GospelThis is what Jesus said:
Luke 4:18
The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,Where do you see death, burial and resurrection in that list?
That list is merely YOUR manipulation to deny the truth,
Here is also what Jesus said; do you deny this list?Here is one account:
Mark 8:31 And[Jesus] began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected
of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again.Here is another account:
Matt 16:21 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples,
how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders
and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.And here is a third…
1 Cor 15:12-14 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead,
how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?
But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:
And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.How about a fourth…
Rev 1:17-18 Fear not; I am the first and the last: and was dead; and,
behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)
Quote (Ed J @ April 04 2012,14:41) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 04 2012,14:02) Quote (Ed J @ April 03 2012,15:50)
Hi BD,Is it not true that muslims do in fact deny the gospel:
the death burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ?עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)
Te death, burial and resurrection is not the GospelThis is what Jesus said:
Luke 4:18
The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,Where do you see death, burial and resurrection in that list?
That list is merely YOUR manipulation to deny the truth,
Here is also what Jesus said; do you deny this list?Here is one account:
Mark 8:31 And[Jesus] began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected
of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again.Here is another account:
Matt 16:21 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples,
how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders
and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.And here is a third…
1 Cor 15:12-14 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead,
how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?
But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:
And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.How about a fourth…
Rev 1:17-18 Fear not; I am the first and the last: and was dead; and,
behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)
Good one Ed, but they will say; that scripture has been added on. And so it will go on and on.wakeup.
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Hi BD,Is it not true that muslims do in fact deny the gospel:
the death burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ?עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)
Te death, burial and resurrection is not the GospelThis is what Jesus said:
Luke 4:18
The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,Where do you see death, burial and resurrection in that list?
That list is merely YOUR manipulation to deny the truth,
Here is also what Jesus said; do you deny this list?Here is one account:
Mark 8:31 And[Jesus] began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected
of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again.Here is another account:
Matt 16:21 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples,
how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders
and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.And here is a third…
1 Cor 15:12-14 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead,
how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?
But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:
And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.How about a fourth…
Rev 1:17-18 Fear not; I am the first and the last: and was dead; and,
behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)
Good one Ed, but they will say; that scripture has been added on. And so it will go on and on.wakeup.
To be honest it does matter to me if Jesus was crucified or not but I would certainly hope he was not. All of a vision does not have to be based in reality just like when we have dreams we have them based upon the information in which we already believe.
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