Kingdom of the antichrist

[bodhitharta]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 28 2010,16:54)

bod can you deny this ?? There is never any hatred preached against Muslims or anyone when Christians and Jews Worship God.  This is not true in Islam.  Is it? Here is an interesting January 2007 article about a show on British television where undercover “Muslims” were sent into mosques during a 12 month period, and tape what was being said.  Among other things, it shows clerics at a number of leading British mosques exhorting followers to prepare for jihad, to hit girls for not wearing the hijab, and to follow Islamic law over UK law. Some are praising the Taliban.  In response to the news that a British Muslim solider was killed fighting the Taliban, the Muslim speaker declares: “The hero of Islam is the one who separated his head from his shoulders.”  Another speaker says Muslims cannot accept the rule of non-Muslims. “You cannot accept the rule of the kaffir,” Dr Ijaz Mian tells a meeting held within the mosque. “We have to rule ourselves and we have to rule the others.” Read here – Surah 9:5 – But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); – Surah's 8:39; 9:5; 9:29: 47:4 in the Muslim Qur'an are 'divine' commandments to persecute Jews and Christians, to defeat them in battle and then to consign them either to slavery or to death. April 27, 2007 Prayer by Sheik Ahmad Bahr, acting Speaker of the Palestinian Legislative Council, declared during a Friday sermon at a Sudan mosque that America and Israel will be annihilated and called upon Allah to kill Jews and Americans “to the very Last One”.   “Oh Allah, vanquish the Jews and their supporters. Oh Allah, count their numbers, and kill them all, down to the very last one. Oh Allah, show them a day of darkness. Oh Allah, who sent down His Book, the mover of the clouds, who defeated the enemies of the Prophet defeat the Jews and the Americans, and bring us victory over them.” The Comforter Jesus spoke of was the Holy Spirit  who filled the Apostles while they gathered together on Pentecost.  While gathered together they all began speaking in foreign tongues.  The Comforter/Holy Spirit/Ruach HaKodesh also imparted the ways of God on Mary, the Apostles of Jesus, and about 120 other Disciples that day. Three thousand came into the Church that same day.  Jesus' followers then immediately took Him seriously and they went out and began preaching the Gospel.  The Comforter was NOT Muhammad.  In John 14:26 the comforter is specifically identified as the Holy Spirit whom the Father will send in the name of Jesus Christ. There is no mention of any Allah, Muhammad, or any prophet to follow Jesus in any Christian or Jewish Holy Books.   Jesus told us, there would only be one more revelation of truth that would come after Him. John 14:17, 16:7 & 13 tell us that Jesus said a “Spirit of Truth” (not a man – a Spirit), the Comforter would come after He Himself departed. This Comforter was to guide us “into all truth”. So there would then be no truth remaining which would be sealed or hidden.  Christians know this “Comforter” as the third person of the triune God, or the “Holy Spirit”. “But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you” (John 14:26).   The “Comforter” refers to the Holy Spirit who descended on the Apostles of Jesus at Pentecost, just as Jesus said. This is another attempt by Islam to gain some sort of credibility.  Jesus foretold the coming of the “Comforter”, which is the Holy Spirit.   Jesus did not say the following: `Jesus, the son of Mary, said, O children of Israel, verily I am the Apostle of God sent unto you confirming the law which was given before me, and bringing good tidings of an Apostle who shall come after me, whose name shall be Ahmed.'  (Surah 7:157) Note the word Ahmed, of which the name Muhammad is compounded Muhammad even disqualified himself as a true Prophet of God.   – Surah 29:27 states clearly that, as far as Allah and the Qur'an are concerned, the only true prophets are those related to Isaac (Ishaq) or Jacob (Yaqoub); yet Muhammad, according to Muslim tradition, is related to Ishmael and not Isaac or Jacob.   The real God (Yahweh) chose to establish His covenant with Abraham and Sarah's son Isaac, instead of with Ishmael, the son of the slave girl Hagar. God informed Abraham a full year before Isaac's birth that he would perpetuate His covenant through Isaac, not Ishmael.  This choice of Isaac by God is mentioned 5 times, beginning in Genesis 17:18-21.  Both God and Abraham cared for the young Ishmael.  But, God only promised to make the descendents of Ishmael a great nation.  Yet, who did this false Islamic god, Allah adopt? Ishmael!  In fact, an important Islamic holiday called Id-al-Adha celebrates the bogus near sacrifice of Ishmael by Abraham in Mecca.  Even though there is nothing in scripture suggesting Abraham ever set foot in Arabia.   Herein lies another prophetic truth!  God rejected Ishmael and Esau because they were “wild donkeys” (Genesis 16:12) and men of the sword (Genesis 27:40).  God did promise, however,  to make Ishmael a great nation (Arabs).  Who can deny that Islam, with its roots in Arabia,  has not always acted like psychotic “wild donkeys” and “men of the sword”?  I call to mind the rather recent “Cartoon” row with worldwide demonstrations by Muslims. Nothing of the sort occurred in Christendom after Dan Brown published his best selling book of lies known as the “Da Vinci Code”. No prophet of God was ever subject to epileptic fits & uncertainty- like Muhammad was…   We know from Islamic historians that Muhammad's many wives did believe he was a a prophet of Allah, in part, because Muhammad would frequently go into epileptic frenzies and foam at the mouth, while receiving his “revelations”.   Also, unlike any of the true prophets of Israel, Muhammad would go through prolonged periods of time when he himself thought he was going mad, or that he was possessed by demons.  The Hebrew prophets never acted like this.  The Hebrew prophets were certain that God (Yahweh) was speaking to them. i hope you are learning something, Pierre

1 Samuel 19:23-25 (King James Version)
23And he went thither to Naioth in Ramah: and the Spirit of God was upon him also, and he went on, and prophesied, until he came to Naioth in Ramah.
24And he stripped off his clothes also, and prophesied before Samuel in like manner, and lay down naked all that day and all that night. Wherefore they say, Is Saul also among the prophets?

Isaiah 20 1In the year that Tartan came unto Ashdod, (when Sargon the king of Assyria sent him,) and fought against Ashdod, and took it;
2At the same time spake the LORD by Isaiah the son of Amoz, saying, Go and loose the sackcloth from off thy loins, and put off thy shoe from thy foot. And he did so, walking naked and barefoot.
3And the LORD said, Like as my servant Isaiah hath walked naked and barefoot three years for a sign and wonder upon Egypt and upon Ethiopia;

1 Kings 11:2-4 (King James Version)
2Of the nations concerning which the LORD said unto the children of Israel, Ye shall not go in to them, neither shall they come in unto you: for surely they will turn away your heart after their gods: Solomon clave unto these in love.
3And he had seven hundred wives, princesses, and three hundred concubine
s: and his wives turned away his heart.
4For it came to pass, when Solomon was old, that his wives turned away his heart after other gods: and his heart was not perfect with the LORD his God, as was the heart of David his father.

Mark 11:21 (King James Version)
21And Peter calling to remembrance saith unto him, Master, behold, the fig tree which thou cursedst is withered away.

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2 Kings 2:22-24 (King James Version)
22So the waters were healed unto this day, according to the saying of Elisha which he spake.
23And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.
24And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.

Just because a prophet is doing something unusual that in no way dismisses their prophethood.

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Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 28 2010,21:26)

Just because a prophet is doing something unusual that in no way dismisses their prophethood.

What about when they deny that God has a son?

Bible

1 John 5:20, 21
And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us an understanding, that we may know Him who is true; and we are in Him who is true, in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and eternal life.

Galatians 3:26
You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus,

Koran

Sura 9:29-30
The Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them

Sura 19:35
It does not befit GOD that He begets a son, be He glorified.

One compiled book teaches clearly that Jesus is the son of God. The other denies it. The latter book is anti the first one that is plain to see. Therefore, if the first one is of God and Jesus truly is the son of God, then the second one is Antichrist in that it is against who/what the Christ is.

Now if a man wrote a book that he claimed as scripture and was anti the Koran, what would you say? What would you say if the Koran was anti the Bible in much of what is said?

The Bible predates the Koran and in the Bible it warns of false prophets and teachers. So if a prophet arises who teaches against that which the Bible teaches pertaining to the messiah who is the son of God, then we can only conclude that the prophet of the Koran is an example of the prophets that scripture warned us to beware of.

Is this not a fair conclusion Bod?

[bodhitharta]

Quote (t8 @ Oct. 28 2010,23:42)

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What about when they deny that God has a son?

You even deny that God has sons except when it comes to Jesus. You say Adam was not really the son of God or the angels in the book of Job or Genesis are not really the sons of God or Solomon is not really the son of God or all the children of Israel are not really the “children of the Most High” You claim all those as poetic except when talking about Jesus then you claim those statements about Jesus have special status but I have asked you before, why is that?

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Bible 1 John 5:20, 21 And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us an understanding, that we may know Him who is true; and we are in Him who is true, in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and eternal life. Galatians 3:26 You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus,

You've made the distinction yourself here, if you are a son of God in what way other than poetical can it be, doesn't it simply mean that through faith in Christ Jesus you have repented and become a true servant of God? Otherwise what virgin did you come out of? Jesus can not be more of a son than Adam(Adam didn't even have a mother)

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Koran Sura 9:29-30 The Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them

Sura #9 verse 30

And the Jews say: 'Uzair (Ezra) is the son of Allah, and the Christians say: Messiah is the son of Allah. That is their saying with their mouths, resembling the saying of those who disbelieved aforetime. Allah's Curse be on them, how they are deluded away from the truth!

That is the entire verse

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Sura 19:35 It does not befit GOD that He begets a son, be He glorified.

35 It befitteth not (the Majesty of) Allah that He should take unto Himself a son. Glory be to Him! When He decreeth a thing, He saith unto it only: Be! and it is.

That is the entire verse, why is it you keep leaving out important parts of the verse? If you are getting these quotes from some place that is anti-Quran you can clearly see they are practicing deceit

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One compiled book teaches clearly that Jesus is the son of God. The other denies it.

The Old Testament was bound to the New Testament by Christians, Jews don't except any of it and call Jesus a false prophet The New Testament makes the statement that Jesus was foretold but the Quran does the same thing.

Once again even the compiled book you speak of which has different canons and and a different number of books in some compilations of it some 73 some 66 and some even over 80 these compilations clearly teach that God has all sorts of sons so either the expression means something different
or you should except all these sons the same ,

but remember these scriptures in the New Testament also call some people sons of the devil now do you believe that the devil has created some actual sons and if so why is Jesus calling the sons of God sons of the devil unless the term is based upon right standing with God as a servant.

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The latter book is anti the first one that is plain to see. Therefore, if the first one is of God and Jesus truly is the son of God, then the second one is Antichrist in that it is against who/what the Christ is.

If what you are saying is true then the first one is the Torah and Jesus is not in the Torah and the Jews were not expecting or waiting for someone fitting the description of Jesus because they were expecting someone to come and deliver them from that present situation of being under the control of Rome so they rejected that he could be the Messiah but he was and so Jesus is confirmed as The Messiah in the Quran, The Quran confirms what is true and denies what is false such as the trinity and the Christ being “God” many of these false idea you have learned and believed over time yourself so are in agreement with the Quran for the most part.

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Now if a man wrote a book that he claimed as scripture and was anti the Koran, what would you say? What would you say if the Koran was anti the Bible in much of what is said?

I would research the scriptures and then decide I would not simply reject something for know reason and this is what most christians do, just as you won't find too many Jews sitting reading the books of the New Testament

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The Bible predates the Koran and in the Bible it warns of false prophets and teachers.

Judaism predates Christianity and it warns of false prophets and according to the New Testament killed Jesus based on that mentality

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So if a prophet arises who teaches against that which the Bible teaches pertaining to the messiah who is the son of God, then we can only conclude that the prophet of the Koran is an example of the prophets that scripture warned us to beware of.

The Quran teaches that Jesus is The Christ the promised one of Israel now Jesus told those Jews who were awaiting the Christ that the Christ is not the son of David although that is
what was prophesied:

Hath not the scripture said, That Christ cometh of the seed of David, and out of the town of Bethlehem, where David was?
John 7:41-43

But Jesus rejected the Sonship of David saying:

Luke 20:41-44 (King James Version)
41And he said unto them, How say they that Christ is David's son?
42And David himself saith in the book of Psalms, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
43Till I make thine enemies thy footstool.
44David therefore calleth him Lord, how is he then his son?

You see what I mean so who is mistaken there Jesus or those questioning him but then after Paul says a
gain:

Romans 1:3 (King James Version)
3Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;

How could that be?

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Is this not a fair conclusion Bod?

So is Jesus the son/seed of David or not? I don't mind taking the time to explain these things over and over but please try to actually consider what I am saying as to where you can at least understand my point even if you don't agree

[terraricca]

bod

your prophet looks more like a savage murderer than a saint,but how would you know ,to blind yourself voluntarily to the reality of history,this is why ,continue to give truth to the ones who says he sees.

Pierre

[bodhitharta]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2010,05:42)

bod your prophet looks more like a savage murderer than a saint,but how would you know ,to blind yourself voluntarily to the reality of history,this is why ,continue to give truth to the ones who says he sees. Pierre

Are you a Christian? Yes or no?

[terraricca]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 29 2010,17:05)

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2010,05:42) bod your prophet looks more like a savage murderer than a saint,but how would you know ,to blind yourself voluntarily to the reality of history,this is why ,continue to give truth to the ones who says he sees. Pierre Are you a Christian? Yes or no?

bod

what you think?

Pierre

[Ed J]

Hi Terraricca,

               quran = Babylon(confusion)

BD is so confused that he doesn't know what a Christian is.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

bod

you say;The Quran teaches that Jesus is The Christ the promised one of Israel now Jesus told those Jews who were awaiting the Christ that the Christ is not the son of David although that is
what was prophesied:

Hath not the scripture said, That Christ cometh of the seed of David, and out of the town of Bethlehem, where David was?
John 7:41-43

But Jesus rejected the Sonship of David saying:

Luke 20:41-44 (King James Version)
41And he said unto them, How say they that Christ is David's son?
42And David himself saith in the book of Psalms, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
43Till I make thine enemies thy footstool.
44David therefore calleth him Lord, how is he then his son?

You see what I mean so who is mistaken there Jesus or those questioning him but then after Paul says again:

Romans 1:3 (King James Version)
3Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;

How could that be?

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Is this not a fair conclusion Bod?

So is Jesus the son/seed of David or not? I don't mind taking the time to explain these things over and over but please try to actually consider what I am saying as to where you can at least understand my point even if you don't agree

————–
Peace and blessings upon Jesus The Christ forever, He puts no partners with God and worships

you even mis quoting the bible ,and also the Koran ,how could you be truthed in anything???

you deny history, you deny Jehovah God,and his son a supreme lord over all creation,

so i say to you this;;Rev 21:8 But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”

2Pe 2:1 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves.
2Pe 2:2 Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
2Pe 2:3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.

Jas 1:25 But the man who looks intently into the perfect law that gives freedom, and continues to do this, not forgetting what he has heard, but doing it—he will be blessed in what he does.
Jas 1:26 If anyone considers himself religious and yet does not keep a tight rein on his tongue, he deceives himself and his religion is worthless.
Jas 1:27 Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.

where is the Koran fit here???

Pierre

[bodhitharta]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2010,14:59)

bod you say;The Quran teaches that Jesus is The Christ the promised one of Israel now Jesus told those Jews who were awaiting the Christ that the Christ is not the son of David although that is what was prophesied: Hath not the scripture said, That Christ cometh of the seed of David, and out of the town of Bethlehem, where David was? John 7:41-43 But Jesus rejected the Sonship of David saying: Luke 20:41-44 (King James Version) 41And he said unto them, How say they that Christ is David's son? 42And David himself saith in the book of Psalms, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, 43Till I make thine enemies thy footstool. 44David therefore calleth him Lord, how is he then his son? You see what I mean so who is mistaken there Jesus or those questioning him but then after Paul says again: Romans 1:3 (King James Version) 3Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; How could that be? Quote   Is this not a fair conclusion Bod? So is Jesus the son/seed of David or not? I don't mind taking the time to explain these things over and over but please try to actually consider what I am saying as to where you can at least understand my point even if you don't agree ————– Peace and blessings upon Jesus The Christ forever, He puts no partners with God and worships you even mis quoting the bible ,and also the Koran ,how could you be truthed in anything??? you deny history, you deny Jehovah God,and his son a supreme lord over all creation, so i say to you this;;Rev 21:8 But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.” 2Pe 2:1 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2Pe 2:2 Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 2Pe 2:3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping. Jas 1:25 But the man who looks intently into the perfect law that gives freedom, and continues to do this, not forgetting what he has heard, but doing it—he will be blessed in what he does. Jas 1:26 If anyone considers himself religious and yet does not keep a tight rein on his tongue, he deceives himself and his religion is worthless. Jas 1:27 Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world. where is the Koran fit here??? Pierre

It fits perfectly

[terraricca]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 30 2010,03:31)

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2010,14:59) bod you say;The Quran teaches that Jesus is The Christ the promised one of Israel now Jesus told those Jews who were awaiting the Christ that the Christ is not the son of David although that is what was prophesied: Hath not the scripture said, That Christ cometh of the seed of David, and out of the town of Bethlehem, where David was? John 7:41-43 But Jesus rejected the Sonship of David saying: Luke 20:41-44 (King James Version) 41And he said unto them, How say they that Christ is David's son? 42And David himself saith in the book of Psalms, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, 43Till I make thine enemies thy footstool. 44David therefore calleth him Lord, how is he then his son? You see what I mean so who is mistaken there Jesus or those questioning him but then after Paul says again: Romans 1:3 (King James Version) 3Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; How could that be? Quote   Is this not a fair conclusion Bod? So is Jesus the son/seed of David or not? I don't mind taking the time to explain these things over and over but please try to actually consider what I am saying as to where you can at least understand my point even if you don't agree ————– Peace and blessings upon Jesus The Christ forever, He puts no partners with God and worships you even mis quoting the bible ,and also the Koran ,how could you be truthed in anything??? you deny history, you deny Jehovah God,and his son a supreme lord over all creation, so i say to you this;;Rev 21:8 But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.” 2Pe 2:1 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2Pe 2:2 Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 2Pe 2:3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping. Jas 1:25 But the man who looks intently into the perfect law that gives freedom, and continues to do this, not forgetting what he has heard, but doing it—he will be blessed in what he does. Jas 1:26 If anyone considers himself religious and yet does not keep a tight rein on his tongue, he deceives himself and his religion is worthless. Jas 1:27 Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world. where is the Koran fit here??? Pierre It fits perfectly

bod

yea, like a thief with honest people,
like a prostitute with children
like homosexuals in a true family
like Satan as Gods prophet

Pierre

[bodhitharta]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2010,22:12)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 30 2010,03:31) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2010,14:59) bod you say;The Quran teaches that Jesus is The Christ the promised one of Israel now Jesus told those Jews who were awaiting the Christ that the Christ is not the son of David although that is what was prophesied: Hath not the scripture said, That Christ cometh of the seed of David, and out of the town of Bethlehem, where David was? John 7:41-43 But Jesus rejected the Sonship of David saying: Luke 20:41-44 (King James Version) 41And he said unto them, How say they that Christ is David's son? 42And David himself saith in the book of Psalms, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, 43Till I make thine enemies thy footstool. 44David therefore calleth him Lord, how is he then his son? You see what I mean so who is mistaken there Jesus or those questioning him but then after Paul says again: Romans 1:3 (King James Version) 3Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; How could that be? Quote   Is this not a fair conclusion Bod? So is Jesus the son/seed of David or not? I don't mind taking the time to explain these things over and over but please try to actually consider what I am saying as to where you can at least understand my point even if you don't agree ————– Peace and blessings upon Jesus The Christ forever, He puts no partners with God and worships you even mis quoting the bible ,and also the Koran ,how could you be truthed in anything??? you deny history, you deny Jehovah God,and his son a supreme lord over all creation, so i say to you this;;Rev 21:8 But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.” 2Pe 2:1 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2Pe 2:2 Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 2Pe 2:3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping. Jas 1:25 But the man who looks intently into the perfect law that gives freedom, and continues to do this, not forgetting what he has heard, but doing it—he will be blessed in what he does. Jas 1:26 If anyone considers himself religious and yet does not keep a tight rein on his tongue, he deceives himself and his religion is worthless. Jas 1:27 Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world. where is the Koran fit here??? Pierre It fits perfectly bod yea, like a thief with honest people,       like a prostitute with children       like homosexuals in a true family       like Satan as Gods prophet Pierre

How can you being evil know what is good?

You are not even believing in God are you?

[Ed J]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 28 2010,16:31)

For ED

THE TRUTH: muslims feed on the ignorant for their propaganda! (Revelation 18:2-4)
Come out of her, my people: come out of the 'kingdom of the antichrist'! (Click Here)

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[Ed J]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 29 2010,03:51)

Quote Sura 9:29-30 The Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them Sura #9 verse 30 And the Jews say: 'Uzair (Ezra) is the son of Allah, and the Christians say: Messiah is the son of Allah. That is their saying with their mouths, resembling the saying of those who disbelieved aforetime. Allah's Curse be on them, how they are deluded away from the truth! That is the entire verse

Hi Everyone,

There you have it! BD's confession that he is NOT a Christian!
BD is scared of satan's curse, so he has decided to reject YHVH!

John 5:23 That all men should honor the Son(Jesus), even as they honor the Father.
He that honoreth not the Son(Jesus) honoreth not the Father(YHVH) which hath sent him.
1John 5:12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.

                      BD is a liar and an antichrist!

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The only difference between Lazarus and Jesus regarding resurrection is that Jesus also later Ascended.

BD admits plenty of other places that he rejects the Gospel of Jesus Christ!
1John 2:22 Who is a liar(BD) but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ?
He(BD) is antichrist, that denieth the Father(YHVH) and the Son(Jesus).

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[terraricca]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 30 2010,12:22)

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2010,22:12) Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 30 2010,03:31) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2010,14:59) bod you say;The Quran teaches that Jesus is The Christ the promised one of Israel now Jesus told those Jews who were awaiting the Christ that the Christ is not the son of David although that is what was prophesied: Hath not the scripture said, That Christ cometh of the seed of David, and out of the town of Bethlehem, where David was? John 7:41-43 But Jesus rejected the Sonship of David saying: Luke 20:41-44 (King James Version) 41And he said unto them, How say they that Christ is David's son? 42And David himself saith in the book of Psalms, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, 43Till I make thine enemies thy footstool. 44David therefore calleth him Lord, how is he then his son? You see what I mean so who is mistaken there Jesus or those questioning him but then after Paul says again: Romans 1:3 (King James Version) 3Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; How could that be? Quote   Is this not a fair conclusion Bod? So is Jesus the son/seed of David or not? I don't mind taking the time to explain these things over and over but please try to actually consider what I am saying as to where you can at least understand my point even if you don't agree ————– Peace and blessings upon Jesus The Christ forever, He puts no partners with God and worships you even mis quoting the bible ,and also the Koran ,how could you be truthed in anything??? you deny history, you deny Jehovah God,and his son a supreme lord over all creation, so i say to you this;;Rev 21:8 But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.” 2Pe 2:1 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2Pe 2:2 Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 2Pe 2:3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping. Jas 1:25 But the man who looks intently into the perfect law that gives freedom, and continues to do this, not forgetting what he has heard, but doing it—he will be blessed in what he does. Jas 1:26 If anyone considers himself religious and yet does not keep a tight rein on his tongue, he deceives himself and his religion is worthless. Jas 1:27 Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world. where is the Koran fit here??? Pierre It fits perfectly bod yea, like a thief with honest people,       like a prostitute with children       like homosexuals in a true family       like Satan as Gods prophet Pierre How can you being evil know what is good? You are not even believing in God are you?

bod

it is not my prophet that has murdered thousands of people,
and keep wants to subdue the world,
my prophet is the son of God,Jesus Christ,a innocent man killed
by violent people,just like Muhammad did,(see history)

the crimes of your prophet will never be washed away.
and any one supporting him becomes guilty by association.

Pierre

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Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 30 2010,06:19)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 29 2010,03:51) Quote Sura 9:29-30 The Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them Sura #9 verse 30 And the Jews say: 'Uzair (Ezra) is the son of Allah, and the Christians say: Messiah is the son of Allah. That is their saying with their mouths, resembling the saying of those who disbelieved aforetime. Allah's Curse be on them, how they are deluded away from the truth! That is the entire verse Hi Everyone, There you have it! BD's confession that he is NOT a Christian! BD is scared of satan's curse, so he has decided to reject YHVH! John 5:23 That all men should honor the Son(Jesus), even as they honor the Father. He that honoreth not the Son(Jesus) honoreth not the Father(YHVH) which hath sent him. 1John 5:12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.                       BD is a liar and an antichrist! Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 27 2010,13:06) The only difference between Lazarus and Jesus regarding resurrection is that Jesus also later Ascended. BD admits plenty of other places that he rejects the Gospel of Jesus Christ! 1John 2:22 Who is a liar(BD) but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He(BD) is antichrist, that denieth the Father(YHVH) and the Son(Jesus). .

Show me ONE single place where I deny that Jesus is Christ:

You cannot but the scripture says plainly:

Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
1 John 4:1-3

Do you disagree with this verse ED

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Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 30 2010,06:34)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 30 2010,12:22) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2010,22:12) Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 30 2010,03:31) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2010,14:59) bod you say;The Quran teaches that Jesus is The Christ the promised one of Israel now Jesus told those Jews who were awaiting the Christ that the Christ is not the son of David although that is what was prophesied: Hath not the scripture said, That Christ cometh of the seed of David, and out of the town of Bethlehem, where David was? John 7:41-43 But Jesus rejected the Sonship of David saying: Luke 20:41-44 (King James Version) 41And he said unto them, How say they that Christ is David's son? 42And David himself saith in the book of Psalms, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, 43Till I make thine enemies thy footstool. 44David therefore calleth him Lord, how is he then his son? You see what I mean so who is mistaken there Jesus or those questioning him but then after Paul says again: Romans 1:3 (King James Version) 3Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; How could that be? Quote   Is this not a fair conclusion Bod? So is Jesus the son/seed of David or not? I don't mind taking the time to explain these things over and over but please try to actually consider what I am saying as to where you can at least understand my point even if you don't agree ————– Peace and blessings upon Jesus The Christ forever, He puts no partners with God and worships you even mis quoting the bible ,and also the Koran ,how could you be truthed in anything??? you deny history, you deny Jehovah God,and his son a supreme lord over all creation, so i say to you this;;Rev 21:8 But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.” 2Pe 2:1 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2Pe 2:2 Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 2Pe 2:3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping. Jas 1:25 But the man who looks intently into the perfect law that gives freedom, and continues to do this, not forgetting what he has heard, but doing it—he will be blessed in what he does. Jas 1:26 If anyone considers himself religious and yet does not keep a tight rein on his tongue, he deceives himself and his religion is worthless. Jas 1:27 Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world. where is the Koran fit here??? Pierre It fits perfectly bod yea, like a thief with honest people,       like a prostitute with children       like homosexuals in a true family       like Satan as Gods prophet Pierre How can you being evil know what is good? You are not even believing in God are you? bod it is not my prophet that has murdered thousands of people, and keep wants to subdue the world, my prophet is the son of God,Jesus Christ,a innocent man killed by violent people,just like Muhammad did,(see history) the crimes of your prophet will never be washed away. and any one supporting him becomes guilty by association. Pierre

So you are saying that Muhammad is more like Moses than like Jesus, right?

Did Moses kill anyone, how about Joshua, Solomon, David or Sampson?

[terraricca]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 30 2010,16:41)

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 30 2010,06:34) Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 30 2010,12:22) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2010,22:12) Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 30 2010,03:31) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2010,14:59) bod you say;The Quran teaches that Jesus is The Christ the promised one of Israel now Jesus told those Jews who were awaiting the Christ that the Christ is not the son of David although that is what was prophesied: Hath not the scripture said, That Christ cometh of the seed of David, and out of the town of Bethlehem, where David was? John 7:41-43 But Jesus rejected the Sonship of David saying: Luke 20:41-44 (King James Version) 41And he said unto them, How say they that Christ is David's son? 42And David himself saith in the book of Psalms, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, 43Till I make thine enemies thy footstool. 44David therefore calleth him Lord, how is he then his son? You see what I mean so who is mistaken there Jesus or those questioning him but then after Paul says again: Romans 1:3 (King James Version) 3Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; How could that be? Quote   Is this not a fair conclusion Bod? So is Jesus the son/seed of David or not? I don't mind taking the time to explain these things over and over but please try to actually consider what I am saying as to where you can at least understand my point even if you don't agree ————– Peace and blessings upon Jesus The Christ forever, He puts no partners with God and worships you even mis quoting the bible ,and also the Koran ,how could you be truthed in anything??? you deny history, you deny Jehovah God,and his son a supreme lord over all creation, so i say to you this;;Rev 21:8 But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.” 2Pe 2:1 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2Pe 2:2 Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 2Pe 2:3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping. Jas 1:25 But the man who looks intently into the perfect law that gives freedom, and continues to do this, not forgetting what he has heard, but doing it—he will be blessed in what he does. Jas 1:26 If anyone considers himself religious and yet does not keep a tight rein on his tongue, he deceives himself and his religion is worthless. Jas 1:27 Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world. where is the Koran fit here??? Pierre It fits perfectly bod yea, like a thief with honest people,       like a prostitute with children       like homosexuals in a true family       like Satan as Gods prophet Pierre How can you being evil know what is good? You are not even believing in God are you? bod it is not my prophet that has murdered thousands of people, and keep wants to subdue the world, my prophet is the son of God,Jesus Christ,a innocent man killed by violent people,just like Muhammad did,(see history) the crimes of your prophet will never be washed away. and any one supporting him becomes guilty by association. Pierre So you are saying that Muhammad is more like Moses than like Jesus, right? Did Moses kill anyone, how about Joshua, Solomon, David or Sampson?

bod
you say;So you are saying that Muhammad is more like Moses than like Jesus, right?

no not at all,Moses did not kill anyone except the Egyptian who brutalised an Hebrew;and all the others were killed by the hand of God .

but Muhammad is not a prophete of the true God of the Hebrews

Muhammad is a self proclaimed prophet like Joseph Smith

and killed thousands of people innocent people that is.

you cannot compere any bible figure to Muhammad except Satan also a self proclaimed master of wickedness and murder and deceit and the father of the liars

Pierre

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Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 30 2010,13:39)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 30 2010,16:41) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 30 2010,06:34) Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 30 2010,12:22) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2010,22:12) Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 30 2010,03:31) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2010,14:59) bod you say;The Quran teaches that Jesus is The Christ the promised one of Israel now Jesus told those Jews who were awaiting the Christ that the Christ is not the son of David although that is what was prophesied: Hath not the scripture said, That Christ cometh of the seed of David, and out of the town of Bethlehem, where David was? John 7:41-43 But Jesus rejected the Sonship of David saying: Luke 20:41-44 (King James Version) 41And he said unto them, How say they that Christ is David's son? 42And David himself saith in the book of Psalms, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, 43Till I make thine enemies thy footstool. 44David therefore calleth him Lord, how is he then his son? You see what I mean so who is mistaken there Jesus or those questioning him but then after Paul says again: Romans 1:3 (King James Version) 3Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; How could that be? Quote   Is this not a fair conclusion Bod? So is Jesus the son/seed of David or not? I don't mind taking the time to explain these things over and over but please try to actually consider what I am saying as to where you can at least understand my point even if you don't agree ————– Peace and blessings upon Jesus The Christ forever, He puts no partners with God and worships you even mis quoting the bible ,and also the Koran ,how could you be truthed in anything??? you deny history, you deny Jehovah God,and his son a supreme lord over all creation, so i say to you this;;Rev 21:8 But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.” 2Pe 2:1 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2Pe 2:2 Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 2Pe 2:3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping. Jas 1:25 But the man who looks intently into the perfect law that gives freedom, and continues to do this, not forgetting what he has heard, but doing it—he will be blessed in what he does. Jas 1:26 If anyone considers himself religious and yet does not keep a tight rein on his tongue, he deceives himself and his religion is worthless. Jas 1:27 Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world. where is the Koran fit here??? Pierre It fits perfectly bod yea, like a thief with honest people,       like a prostitute with children       like homosexuals in a true family       like Satan as Gods prophet Pierre How can you being evil know what is good? You are not even believing in God are you? bod it is not my prophet that has murdered thousands of people, and keep wants to subdue the world, my prophet is the son of God,Jesus Christ,a innocent man killed by violent people,just like Muhammad did,(see history) the crimes of your prophet will never be washed away. and any one supporting him becomes guilty by association. Pierre So you are saying that Muhammad is more like Moses than like Jesus, right? Did Moses kill anyone, how about Joshua, Solomon, David or Sampson? bod you say;So you are saying that Muhammad is more like Moses than like Jesus, right? no not at all,Moses did not kill anyone except the Egyptian who brutalised an Hebrew;and all the others were killed by the hand of God . but Muhammad is not a prophete of the true God of the Hebrews Muhammad is a self proclaimed prophet like Joseph Smith and killed thousands of people innocent people that is. you cannot compere any bible figure to Muhammad except Satan also a self proclaimed master of wickedness and murder and deceit and the father of the liars Pierre

You see I knew you didn't know what you were talking about Moses killed and ordered the killing of Many Many men but as I said I love when you post because it shows that you have no knowledge about these things.

But on the morrow all the congregation of the children of Israel murmured against Moses and against Aaron, saying, Ye have killed the people of the LORD.
Numbers 16:40-42

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Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 30 2010,21:40)

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 30 2010,13:39) Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 30 2010,16:41) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 30 2010,06:34) Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 30 2010,12:22) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2010,22:12) Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 30 2010,03:31) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2010,14:59) bod you say;The Quran teaches that Jesus is The Christ the promised one of Israel now Jesus told those Jews who were awaiting the Christ that the Christ is not the son of David although that is what was prophesied: Hath not the scripture said, That Christ cometh of the seed of David, and out of the town of Bethlehem, where David was? John 7:41-43 But Jesus rejected the Sonship of David saying: Luke 20:41-44 (King James Version) 41And he said unto them, How say they that Christ is David's son? 42And David himself saith in the book of Psalms, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, 43Till I make thine enemies thy footstool. 44David therefore calleth him Lord, how is he then his son? You see what I mean so who is mistaken there Jesus or those questioning him but then after Paul says again: Romans 1:3 (King James Version) 3Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; How could that be? Quote   Is this not a fair conclusion Bod? So is Jesus the son/seed of David or not? I don't mind taking the time to explain these things over and over but please try to actually consider what I am saying as to where you can at least understand my point even if you don't agree ————– Peace and blessings upon Jesus The Christ forever, He puts no partners with God and worships you even mis quoting the bible ,and also the Koran ,how could you be truthed in anything??? you deny history, you deny Jehovah God,and his son a supreme lord over all creation, so i say to you this;;Rev 21:8 But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.” 2Pe 2:1 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2Pe 2:2 Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 2Pe 2:3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping. Jas 1:25 But the man who looks intently into the perfect law that gives freedom, and continues to do this, not forgetting what he has heard, but doing it—he will be blessed in what he does. Jas 1:26 If anyone considers himself religious and yet does not keep a tight rein on his tongue, he deceives himself and his religion is worthless. Jas 1:27 Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world. where is the Koran fit here??? Pierre It fits perfectly bod yea, like a thief with honest people,       like a prostitute with children       like homosexuals in a true family       like Satan as Gods prophet Pierre How can you being evil know what is good? You are not even believing in God are you? bod it is not my prophet that has murdered thousands of people, and keep wants to subdue the world, my prophet is the son of God,Jesus Christ,a innocent man killed by violent people,just like Muhammad did,(see history) the crimes of your prophet will never be washed away. and any one supporting him becomes guilty by association. Pierre So you are saying that Muhammad is more like Moses than like Jesus, right? Did Moses kill anyone, how about Joshua, Solomon, David or Sampson? bod you say;So you are saying that Muhammad is more like Moses than like Jesus, right? no not at all,Moses did not kill anyone except the Egyptian who brutalised an Hebrew;and all the others were killed by the hand of God . but Muhammad is not a prophete of the true God of the Hebrews Muhammad is a self proclaimed prophet like Joseph Smith and killed thousands of people innocent people that is. you cannot compere any bible figure to Muhammad except Satan also a self proclaimed master of wickedness and murder and deceit and the father of the liars Pierre You see I knew you didn't know what you were talking about Moses killed and ordered the killing of Many Many men but as I said I love when you post because it shows that you have no knowledge about these things. But on the morrow all the congregation of the children of Israel murmured against Moses and against Aaron, saying, Ye have killed the people of the LORD. Numbers 16:40-42

bod

i was right you are deceit;

Nu 16:39 So Eleazar the priest collected the bronze censers brought by those who had been burned up, and he had them hammered out to overlay the altar,
Nu 16:40 as the LORD directed him through Moses. This was to remind the Israelites that no one except a descendant of Aaron should come to burn incense before the LORD, or he would become like Korah and his followers.
Nu 16:41 The next day the whole Israelite community grumbled against Moses and Aaron. “You have killed the LORD'S people,” they said.
Nu 16:42 But when the assembly gathered in opposition to Moses and Aaron and turned toward the Tent of Meeting, suddenly the cloud covered it and the glory of the LORD appeared.
Nu 16:43 Then Moses and Aaron went to the front of the Tent of Meeting,
Nu 16:44 and the LORD said to Moses,
Nu 16:45 “Get away from this assembly so I can put an end to them at o
nce.” And they fell facedown.
Nu 16:46 Then Moses said to Aaron, “Take your censer and put incense in it, along with fire from the altar, and hurry to the assembly to make atonement for them. Wrath has come out from the LORD? the plague has started.”
Nu 16:47 So Aaron did as Moses said, and ran into the midst of the assembly. The plague had already started among the people, but Aaron offered the incense and made atonement for them.
Nu 16:48 He stood between the living and the dead, and the plague stopped.
Nu 16:49 But 14,700 people died from the plague, in addition to those who had died because of Korah.

you are changing the scriptures thinking i would not know them,

but you are wrong .

you have no knowledge in scriptures and do not show any in the Koran and it origin as well .

Pierre

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Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 30 2010,15:51)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 30 2010,21:40) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 30 2010,13:39) Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 30 2010,16:41) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 30 2010,06:34) Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 30 2010,12:22) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2010,22:12) Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 30 2010,03:31) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2010,14:59) bod you say;The Quran teaches that Jesus is The Christ the promised one of Israel now Jesus told those Jews who were awaiting the Christ that the Christ is not the son of David although that is what was prophesied: Hath not the scripture said, That Christ cometh of the seed of David, and out of the town of Bethlehem, where David was? John 7:41-43 But Jesus rejected the Sonship of David saying: Luke 20:41-44 (King James Version) 41And he said unto them, How say they that Christ is David's son? 42And David himself saith in the book of Psalms, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, 43Till I make thine enemies thy footstool. 44David therefore calleth him Lord, how is he then his son? You see what I mean so who is mistaken there Jesus or those questioning him but then after Paul says again: Romans 1:3 (King James Version) 3Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; How could that be? Quote   Is this not a fair conclusion Bod? So is Jesus the son/seed of David or not? I don't mind taking the time to explain these things over and over but please try to actually consider what I am saying as to where you can at least understand my point even if you don't agree ————– Peace and blessings upon Jesus The Christ forever, He puts no partners with God and worships you even mis quoting the bible ,and also the Koran ,how could you be truthed in anything??? you deny history, you deny Jehovah God,and his son a supreme lord over all creation, so i say to you this;;Rev 21:8 But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.” 2Pe 2:1 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2Pe 2:2 Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 2Pe 2:3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping. Jas 1:25 But the man who looks intently into the perfect law that gives freedom, and continues to do this, not forgetting what he has heard, but doing it—he will be blessed in what he does. Jas 1:26 If anyone considers himself religious and yet does not keep a tight rein on his tongue, he deceives himself and his religion is worthless. Jas 1:27 Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world. where is the Koran fit here??? Pierre It fits perfectly bod yea, like a thief with honest people,       like a prostitute with children       like homosexuals in a true family       like Satan as Gods prophet Pierre How can you being evil know what is good? You are not even believing in God are you? bod it is not my prophet that has murdered thousands of people, and keep wants to subdue the world, my prophet is the son of God,Jesus Christ,a innocent man killed by violent people,just like Muhammad did,(see history) the crimes of your prophet will never be washed away. and any one supporting him becomes guilty by association. Pierre So you are saying that Muhammad is more like Moses than like Jesus, right? Did Moses kill anyone, how about Joshua, Solomon, David or Sampson? bod you say;So you are saying that Muhammad is more like Moses than like Jesus, right? no not at all,Moses did not kill anyone except the Egyptian who brutalised an Hebrew;and all the others were killed by the hand of God . but Muhammad is not a prophete of the true God of the Hebrews Muhammad is a self proclaimed prophet like Joseph Smith and killed thousands of people innocent people that is. you cannot compere any bible figure to Muhammad except Satan also a self proclaimed master of wickedness and murder and deceit and the father of the liars Pierre You see I knew you didn't know what you were talking about Moses killed and ordered the killing of Many Many men but as I said I love when you post because it shows that you have no knowledge about these things. But on the morrow all the congregation of the children of Israel murmured against Moses and against Aaron, saying, Ye have killed the people of the LORD. Numbers 16:40-42 bod i was right you are deceit; Nu 16:39 So Eleazar the priest collected the bronze censers brought by those who had been burned up, and he had them hammered out to overlay the altar, Nu 16:40 as the LORD directed him through Moses. This was to remind the Israelites that no one except a descendant of Aaron should come to burn incense before the LORD, or he would become like Korah and his followers. Nu 16:41 The next day the whole Israelite community grumbled against Moses and Aaron. “You have killed the LORD'S people,” they said. Nu 16:42 But when the assembly gathered in opposition to Moses and Aaron and turned toward the Tent of Meeting, suddenly the cloud covered it and the glory of the LORD appear ed. Nu 16:43 Then Moses and Aaron went to the front of the Tent of Meeting, Nu 16:44 and the LORD said to Moses, Nu 16:45 “Get away from this assembly so I can put an end to them at once.” And they fell facedown. Nu 16:46 Then Moses said to Aaron, “Take your censer and put incense in it, along with fire from the altar, and hurry to the assembly to make atonement for them. Wrath has come out from the LORD? the plague has started.” Nu 16:47 So Aaron did as Moses said, and ran into the midst of the assembly. The plague had already started among the people, but Aaron offered the incense and made atonement for them. Nu 16:48 He stood between the living and the dead, and the plague stopped. Nu 16:49 But 14,700 people died from the plague, in addition to those who had died because of Korah. you are changing the scriptures thinking i would not know them, but you are wrong . you have no knowledge in scriptures and do not show any in the Koran and it origin as well . Pierre

So all those people died? Why? and Why did they blame Moses?

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