Kingdom of the antichrist

[Ed J]

Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 15 2010,07:08)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 15 2010,08:07) Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 14 2010,20:49) Bod, what has been going on down here ? It seems Ed is avoiding you – sort of – saying you have personally attacked him, and its gone ignored. Whats your side of the story ? ED is upset because he decided to share this number system and when I employed this system to show that it could also prove Islam he strted twisting his system to make it be whatever he wanted so in the thread understanding ED I showed that using the number system in the English Gematria ED is LUCIFER=666 and ED called this a personal attack after he had already called Allah “Satan” Muhammad “Satan” Me “Satan” Islam the Kingdom of the Antichrist…etc In other words endless insults that ED has doled out he seems to only be offended by his own belief in the numbers because It is the numbers that say that ED is Lucifer=666 in English Gematria I'm not attacking ED with this information see: http://www.gematrix.org/?word=ED+is+Lucifer Keep in mind I wrote this saying: Does this actually mean that ED is Lucifer? The point was to show ED that the numbers can be used to say all sorts of things and therefore not very dependable unless ED really is Lucifer if he is not then the system has its flaws I agree bod. Ed, your number system has turned on you, lol. it says you are 666, do you expect us to believe that ? That you are ? Ed, either we believe your numbers, and also believe you are 666, or we dont believe you are 666, therefore we dont believe your numbers, see that ? Its not a personal attack which im doing here, its actually a sort of compliment, do you see that ?

Hi Shimmer,

BD uses a flawed x6 cipher,
which BD wrongly attributes to me!

So now you are agreeing with BD's LIE?
You ask my how you have changed? Take a look.

Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH!
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)

[Ed J]

Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 15 2010,07:11)

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 15 2010,06:06) Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 14 2010,19:45) Ed, what outrageous personal attacks ? Hi Shimmer, We have talked about this before, have you forgotten? God bless Ed J Yeah I remember now. Bod, you did say something to Ed on the thread titled 'Ed and his numbers'…you said that if he hassles me, you will speak against his numbers over the net. Is that what your meaning Ed ?

Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 11 2010,06:40)

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 11 2010,08:38) For the reader's sake: I(Ed J) no longer Post directly to BD, nor answer his postulating questions, because BD continues to make outrageous personal attacks which go ignored by the owner of this site. Ed, true ? ok.

[Ed J]

Hi Everyone,

                      islam is a curse!

Prov:3:33 The “curse”=66(allah) of the LORD is in the house of the wicked (islam):
but he(“The LORD JEHOVAH”=151) blesseth the habitation of the just.
Eph.5:14 Wherefore he(YHVH) saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and
arise from the dead(spirit), and [Jesus Christ(151)] shall give thee light.

                     God's Signature

יהוה=26 (God's Name: YHVH pronounced YÄ-hä-vā)
YHVH=63 (God's Name יהוה translated into English)
Jesus=74 (God's Son's name in English is: “Joshua”)
HolySpirit=151 (“FATHER: The Word”: in all believers)
God The Father=117 (Representing “GOD”: יהוה האלהים)

Jesus is Lord(151)
the God Son(74)
of The LORD JEHOVAH(151)!
(Acts 20:28 / 1Corinthians 12:3)

1Cor.12:3 …no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the HolySpirit.
This verse PROVES you have a dead spirit! Because BD refuse to say…  Jesus Christ is Lord (Phil:2:11)
Phil.2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of “God the Father”(117).

                             “YHVH is GOD”=117
PSALM 117 is [The Bible's Center Chapter],
the [smallest chapter] of the [LARGEST BOOK]!

Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH!
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 15 2010,06:48)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 15 2010,06:07) Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 14 2010,20:49) Bod, what has been going on down here ? It seems Ed is avoiding you – sort of – saying you have personally attacked him, and its gone ignored. Whats your side of the story ? ED is upset because he decided to share this number system and when I employed this system to show that it could also prove Islam he strted twisting his system to make it be whatever he wanted so in the thread understanding ED I showed that using the number system in the English Gematria ED is LUCIFER=666 and ED called this a personal attack after he had already called Allah “Satan” Muhammad “Satan” Me “Satan” Islam the Kingdom of the Antichrist…etc In other words endless insults that ED has doled out he seems to only be offended by his own belief in the numbers because It is the numbers that say that ED is Lucifer=666 in English Gematria I'm not attacking ED with this information see: http://www.gematrix.org/?word=ED+is+Lucifer Keep in mind I wrote this saying: Does this actually mean that ED is Lucifer? The point was to show ED that the numbers can be used to say all sorts of things and therefore not very dependable unless ED really is Lucifer if he is not then the system has its flaws Hi Everyone, BD is lying again! BD uses a flawed x6 cipher, which BD wrongly attributes to me! For the reader's sake: I(Ed J) no longer Post directly to BD, nor answer his postulating questions, because BD continues to make outrageous personal attacks which go ignored by the owner of this site.

How is it flawed?

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 15 2010,07:40)

Hi Everyone,                       islam is a curse! Prov:3:33 The “curse”=66(allah) of the LORD is in the house of the wicked (islam): but he(“The LORD JEHOVAH”=151) blesseth the habitation of the just. Eph.5:14 Wherefore he(YHVH) saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead(spirit), and [Jesus Christ(151)] shall give thee light.                      God's Signature יהוה=26 (God's Name: YHVH pronounced YÄ-hä-vā) YHVH=63 (God's Name יהוה translated into English) Jesus=74 (God's Son's name in English is: “Joshua”) HolySpirit=151 (“FATHER: The Word”: in all believers) God The Father=117 (Representing “GOD”: יהוה האלהים) Jesus is Lord(151) the God Son(74) of The LORD JEHOVAH(151)! (Acts 20:28 / 1Corinthians 12:3) 1Cor.12:3 …no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the HolySpirit. This verse PROVES you have a dead spirit! Because BD refuse to say…  Jesus Christ is Lord (Phil:2:11) Phil.2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of “God the Father”(117).                              “YHVH is GOD”=117 PSALM 117 is [The Bible's Center Chapter], the [smallest chapter] of the [LARGEST BOOK]! Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH! יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)

It is not a problem to say Jesus is lord: Jesus is lord now look:

They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords in derogation of Allah, and (they take as their Lord) Christ the son of Mary; yet they were commanded to worship but One Allah. there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him: (Far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him).
( سورة التوبة , At-Taubah, Chapter #9, Verse #31)

Jesus said he was not their lord but their friend:

Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you.
John 15:14-16

ED, The LORD God is ONE LORD.

God is The LORD of JESUS or don't you know this? For the servant knoweth not what his LORD do:

But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.
Mark 13:31-33

Therefore if Jesus knoweth not the hour he is the servant of THE LORD GOD.

[Ed J]

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Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 22 2010,14:01)

Are you God?

Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 15 2010,10:34)

are you Lucifer?

      quran = Babylon (meaning confusion!)

Look everybody: at how confused BD really is! (Rev.18:2,4)

For the reader's sake:
I(Ed J) no longer Post directly to BD, nor answer his postulating questions,
because BD continues to make outrageous personal attacks
which go ignored by the owner of this site.

[Ed J]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 15 2010,10:34)

How is it flawed, ED and why is it flawed when it doesn't agree with your ideas? The fact is we can use a known acceptable system of numbers to say honestly that ED is LUCIFER=666 which happens to also say Mark of the beast=666 Now in revelations it says the mark of the beast is 666 which in simple gematria is 111 nust like ED is Lucifer =111 in simple gematria but Revelations said use wisdom so if Mark of the beast =666 in English Gematria and ED is LUcifer=666 in English Gematria what should I think? Is it coincidence, are the numbers wrong or are you Lucifer?

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                    Look what BD's code x6 cipher produces…  

                       allah is lord=666

For the reader's sake:
I(Ed J) no longer Post directly to BD, nor answer his postulating questions,
because BD continues to make outrageous personal attacks
which go ignored by the owner of this site.

[Ed J]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 15 2010,13:14)

. Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 22 2010,14:01) Are you God? Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 15 2010,10:34) are you Lucifer?       quran = Babylon (meaning confusion!) Look everybody: at how confused BD really is! (Rev.18:2,4)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 15 2010,10:22)

ED, The LORD God is ONE LORD.

Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 15 2010,10:34)

ED is Lucifer

Look everyone at just how confused BD really is!!!!

For the reader's sake:
I(Ed J) no longer Post directly to BD, nor answer his postulating questions,
because BD continues to make outrageous personal attacks
which go ignored by the owner of this site.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 15 2010,13:23)

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 15 2010,13:14) . Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 22 2010,14:01) Are you God? Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 15 2010,10:34) are you Lucifer?       quran = Babylon (meaning confusion!) Look everybody: at how confused BD really is! (Rev.18:2,4) Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 15 2010,10:22) ED, The LORD God is ONE LORD. Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 15 2010,10:34) ED is Lucifer Look everyone at just how confused BD really is!!!! For the reader's sake: I(Ed J) no longer Post directly to BD, nor answer his postulating questions, because BD continues to make outrageous personal attacks which go ignored by the owner of this site.

ED

Do you think that this:

Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 15 2010,10:22)

ED, The LORD God is ONE LORD.

Is saying that you are GOD? ED do you know what “,” means?
I was in no way calling you God or even suggesting such Blasphemy!

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 15 2010,13:15)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 15 2010,10:34) How is it flawed, ED and why is it flawed when it doesn't agree with your ideas? The fact is we can use a known acceptable system of numbers to say honestly that ED is LUCIFER=666 which happens to also say Mark of the beast=666 Now in revelations it says the mark of the beast is 666 which in simple gematria is 111 nust like ED is Lucifer =111 in simple gematria but Revelations said use wisdom so if Mark of the beast =666 in English Gematria and ED is LUcifer=666 in English Gematria what should I think? Is it coincidence, are the numbers wrong or are you Lucifer? .                     Look what BD's code x6 cipher produces…                          allah is lord=666 For the reader's sake: I(Ed J) no longer Post directly to BD, nor answer his postulating questions, because BD continues to make outrageous personal attacks which go ignored by the owner of this site.

So is the x6 cipher flawed or not?

If allah is lord=666 and you say it is right then ED is Lucifer=666

[shimmer]

OK, Thread topic…Kingdom of the antichrist….I believe anything… anyone can be antichrist, especially today. Where Islam comes into it, I dont know anymore.

[theodorej]

Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 15 2010,18:50)

OK, Thread topic…Kingdom of the antichrist….I believe anything… anyone can be antichrist, especially today. Where Islam comes into it, I dont know anymore.

Greetings Shimmer……Walid is no stranger to the media world,he is sought after for speaking engagements and news commentary on a regular basis,and paid quite well I might say….This man is a self proclaimed terrorist and a murderer who under the auspices of Jihad participated in the taking of lives…..These are not accusations from me,but statements from him…I applaud his repentance and I thank God for his mercy and the forgiveness of sins…This mans conversion to christianity is the first step in his repentance the second step should be accountability for his actions…NOT Celebrity…

[theodorej]

Quote (theodorej @ Nov. 15 2010,22:44)

Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 15 2010,18:50) OK, Thread topic…Kingdom of the antichrist….I believe anything… anyone can be antichrist, especially today. Where Islam comes into it, I dont know anymore. Greetings Shimmer……Walid is no stranger to the media world,he is sought after for speaking engagements and news commentary on a regular basis,and paid quite well I might say….This man is a self proclaimed terrorist and a murderer who under the auspices of Jihad participated in the taking of lives…..These are not accusations from me,but statements from him…I applaud his repentance and I thank God for his mercy and the forgiveness of sins…This mans conversion to christianity is the first step in his repentance the second step should be accountability for his actions…NOT Celebrity…

Greetings Shimmer….We are not to believe anything….We are to prove all things….The term anti christ is bantered around quite abit….its application is fairly simple Anti=opposition=against….Christ= God=Son of God=Savior as you see this is a broad description that can apply to any person ( many of us),place(church or mindset) or thing(idols)….Mr Shabbat may very well be an authority on this topic…it is up to us to prove it to ourselves…

[bodhitharta]

Quote (theodorej @ Nov. 15 2010,23:09)

Quote (theodorej @ Nov. 15 2010,22:44) Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 15 2010,18:50) OK, Thread topic…Kingdom of the antichrist….I believe anything… anyone can be antichrist, especially today. Where Islam comes into it, I dont know anymore. Greetings Shimmer……Walid is no stranger to the media world,he is sought after for speaking engagements and news commentary on a regular basis,and paid quite well I might say….This man is a self proclaimed terrorist and a murderer who under the auspices of Jihad participated in the taking of lives…..These are not accusations from me,but statements from him…I applaud his repentance and I thank God for his mercy and the forgiveness of sins…This mans conversion to christianity is the first step in his repentance the second step should be accountability for his actions…NOT Celebrity… Greetings Shimmer….We are not to believe anything….We are to prove all things….The term anti christ is bantered around quite abit….its application is fairly simple Anti=opposition=against….Christ= God=Son of God=Savior as you see this is a broad description that can apply to any person ( many of us),place(church or mindset) or thing(idols)….Mr Shabbat may very well be an authority on this topic…it is up to us to prove it to ourselves…

Walid Shoe bat is not only not an expert on this topic he is someone who uses the fact that he is Arabic to deceive unsuspecting Americans that he also understands or knows Islam but he doesn't nor does he know the Bible but as you say he has found celebrity which people often confuse with authority.

He makes statements that any well read person can easily detect his level of knowledge or any well placed question baffles him. For instance he believes that Jesus is God so asking him why did Jesus command Stoning(This is after him saying maybe that stoning is an evil Islamic invention or something on that order) Then ask him where is even the word stoning in the Quran and he nor anyone else will ever find it.

Walid does this kind of thing all the time saying God does not order people to fight and things like that you then realize he has not read his bible he just doesn't like Islam although he never understood it or he wouldn't have been so anxious to kill people in the first place

[Ed J]

HI Everyone,

         This video is extremely important!
                         Exposing the 'book of fraud'; quran!

For the reader's sake:
I(Ed J) no longer Post directly to BD, nor answer his postulating questions,
because BD continues to make outrageous personal attacks
which go ignored by the owner of this site.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 16 2010,04:01)

HI Everyone,          This video is extremely important!                          Exposing the 'book of fraud'; quran! For the reader's sake: I(Ed J) no longer Post directly to BD, nor answer his postulating questions, because BD continues to make outrageous personal attacks which go ignored by the owner of this site.

ʾĒl (written aleph-lamed, i.e. אל, ����, ���� etc.) is the Northwest Semitic word for “deity”, cognate to Akkadian ilum.
In the Canaanite religion, or Levantine religion as a whole, Eli or Il was the supreme god,[2] the father of humankind and all creatures and the husband of the goddess Asherah as recorded in the clay tablets of Ugarit

The word El was found at the top of a list of gods as the Ancient of gods or the Father of all gods, in the ruins of the royal archive of the Ebla civilization, in the archaeological site of Tell Mardikh in Syria dated to 2300 BC. He may have been a desert god at some point, as the myths say that he had two wives and built a sanctuary with them and his new children in the desert. El had fathered many gods, but most important were Hadad, Yam, and Mot.
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Does this explain what I said about Walid Shoebat and your following him without knowing why? You have said repeatedly that you accept no other name than YHVH now look at you, can you explain this?

[bodhitharta]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 16 2010,08:28)

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 16 2010,04:01) HI Everyone,          This video is extremely important!                          Exposing the 'book of fraud'; quran! For the reader's sake: I(Ed J) no longer Post directly to BD, nor answer his postulating questions, because BD continues to make outrageous personal attacks which go ignored by the owner of this site. ʾĒl (written aleph-lamed, i.e. אל, ����, ���� etc.) is the Northwest Semitic word for “deity”, cognate to Akkadian ilum. In the Canaanite religion, or Levantine religion as a whole, Eli or Il was the supreme god,[2] the father of humankind and all creatures and the husband of the goddess Asherah as recorded in the clay tablets of Ugarit The word El was found at the top of a list of gods as the Ancient of gods or the Father of all gods, in the ruins of the royal archive of the Ebla civilization, in the archaeological site of Tell Mardikh in Syria dated to 2300 BC. He may have been a desert god at some point, as the myths say that he had two wives and built a sanctuary with them and his new children in the desert. El had fathered many gods, but most important were Hadad, Yam, and Mot. ——————————————— Does this explain what I said about Walid Shoebat and your following him without knowing why? You have said repeatedly that you accept no other name than YHVH now look at you, can you explain this?

El depicted with two lions on the back of the handle of the Gebel el-Arak Knife

Now of course I am not equating the names of the angels with the understanding of God pictured here, but the fact is all of our understandings of God is gradual as no doubt this is the same God that you know, that these people worshiped although they may have not understood just like you Worship Allah and hate what you think “ALLAH” is when HE is this same God but you don't understand so you say that is not YHVH it is a different God

lets proceed:

Ēl is called again and again Tôru ‘Ēl (“Bull Ēl” or “the bull god”). He is bātnyu binwāti (“Creator of creatures”), ’abū banī ’ili (“father of the gods”), and ‘abū ‘adami (“father of man”). He is qāniyunu ‘ôlam (“creator eternal”), the epithet ‘ôlam appearing in Hebrew form in the Hebrew name of God ’ēl ‘ôlam “God Eternal” in Genesis 21.33. He is ḥātikuka (“your patriarch”). Ēl is the grey-bearded ancient one, full of wisdom, malku (“king”), ’abū šamīma (“father of years”), ’ēl gibbōr (“Ēl the warrior”). He is also named lṭpn of unknown meaning, variously rendered as Latpan, Latipan, or Lutpani (“shroud-face” by Strong's Hebrew Concordance).

El is a generic word for god that could be used for any god including Baal, Moloch,[7] or Yahweh.

WHAT!!!! Did you see that? Let's rewind

El is a generic word for god that could be used for any god including Baal, Moloch,[7] or Yahweh.

Let's proceed:

One scholarly position is that the identification of Yahweh with Ēl is late, that Yahweh was earlier thought of as only one of many gods, and not normally identified with Ēl. In some places, especially in Psalm 29, Yahweh is clearly envisioned as a storm god, something not true of Ēl so far as we know (though true of his son, Ba'al/Hadad). (Noted Parallel: El is derived from Sumerian Enlil, God of Wind.[8]) It is Yahweh who fights Leviathan in Isaiah 27.1; Psalm 74.14; Job 3.8 & 40.25/41.1, a deed attributed both to Ba’al/Hadad and ‘Anat in the Ugaritic texts, but not to Ēl. Such mythological motifs are variously seen as late survivals from a period when Yahweh held a place in theology comparable to that of Hadad at Ugarit; or as late henotheistic/monotheistic applications to Yahweh of deeds more commonly attributed to Hadad; or simply as examples of eclectic application of the same motifs and imagery to various different gods. Similarly, it is argued inconclusively whether Ēl Shaddāi, Ēl ‘Ôlām, Ēl ‘Elyôn, and so forth, were originally understood as separate divinities. Albrecht Alt presented his theories on the original differences of such gods in Der Gott der Väter in 1929. But others have argued that from patriarchal times these different names were indeed generally understood to refer to the same single great god, Ēl. This is the position of Frank Moore Cross (1973). What is certain is that the form ’ēl does appear in Israelite names from every period including the name Yiśrā’ēl ('Israel'), meaning 'ēl strives' or 'struggled with él'.
According to The Oxford Companion To World Mythology (David Leeming, Oxford University Press, 2005, page 118), “It seems almost certain that the God of the Jews evolved gradually from the Canaanite El, who was in all likelihood the 'God of Abraham'…If El was the high god of Abraham – Elohim, the prototype of Yahveh – Asherah was his wife, and there are archeological indications that she was perceived as such before she was in effect 'divorced' in the context of emerging Judaism of the seventh century B.C.E. (See 2 Kings 23:15)”

Now here comes the BIGGEST SURPISE!!!

Elohim (אֱלהִים) is a plural formation of eloah, the latter being an expanded form of the Northwest Semitic noun il (אֱל, ʾēl

[Proclaimer]

Thanks for the video Edj.

It has a very good point.

If Islam teaches that God is not El and these angels are of God, then they clearly have a contradiction.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 16 2010,09:59)

Thanks for the video Edj. It has a very good point. If Islam teaches that God is not El and these angels are of God, then they clearly have a contradiction.

Elohim (אֱלהִים) is a plural formation of eloah, the latter being an expanded form of the Northwest Semitic noun il (אֱל, ʾēl

[bodhitharta]

Etymology

The Dictionary of Deities and Demons in the Bible defines “elohim” as a plural of eloah, an expanded form of the common Semitic noun “'il” (??l).[5] It contains an added heh as third radical to the biconsonantal root. Discussions of the etymology of elohim essentially concern this expansion. An exact cognate outside of Hebrew is found in Ugaritic ?lhm, the family of El, the creator god and chief deity of the Canaanite pantheon, and in Arabic ?il?h “god, deity” (or Allah as ” The [single] God”). “El” (the basis for the extended root ?lh) is usually derived from a root meaning “to be strong” and/or “to be in front”.[6]

http://www.tutorgig.com/ed/Elohim

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