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Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 26 2010,12:14) No Stu, How did any God information come about? Where did the concept and teaching come from and why?
It was invented by pattern-seeking human brains.By a man called Brian. Brian of Tanzania invented god on the afternoon of Thursday October 23rd, 8049 BCE.
He did it because there was nothing on TV (obviously).
Stuart
Quote (Stu @ Jan. 26 2010,12:33) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 26 2010,12:14) No Stu, How did any God information come about? Where did the concept and teaching come from and why?
It was invented by pattern-seeking human brains.By a man called Brian. Brian of Tanzania invented god on the afternoon of Thursday October 23rd, 8049 BCE.
He did it because there was nothing on TV (obviously).
Stuart
Why would the human brain seek patterns?The brain seeks patterns for the massive evolutionary advantages to be had in doing so. Most animals recognise patterns for survival reasons, since we have big but bizarrely disfunctional brains, we are really good at seeing patterns where none really exist.
Check out these images of Jesus, then tell me we are not voraciously pattern-seeking:
Stuart
Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 25 2010,18:02) The Torah states that it was told to Abraham directly from God, is that a lie?
God cannot verify, so as far as I know, it is a lie.Will the real god please step forward?
Quote (kejonn @ Jan. 26 2010,15:14) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 25 2010,18:02) The Torah states that it was told to Abraham directly from God, is that a lie?
God cannot verify, so as far as I know, it is a lie.Will the real god please step forward?
So do you think Abrahm just decided to start circumcising on a whim?Quote (kejonn @ Jan. 25 2010,21:51) Quote (david @ Jan. 24 2010,23:49) Quote All I am asking is for theists to show me why other gods are false or non-existent while there own god is the only true one. –kejonn
There seems to be one basic answer given:
One God had a book authored and made available to everyone in the world. This God says, “I exist” and seems to want us to know him, and how he deals with people. Other gods seem less concerned with us knowing they exist. Or if they do want us to know they exist, they need to find better publishers, because the God that says he exists, has been on the best seller list for quite a while.
A book that is very flawed and full of ancient, outdated practices. Since this god does not revise with the times and speak to modern man, I would not say that this god can be believed in any more than those who don't have some ancient tome.
Unless he died?
Quote Is this an argument based on popularity?
Those are never good arguments.
Kejonn, you did not address my point.You ask:
All I am asking is for theists to show me why other gods are false or non-existent while there own god is the only true one.My comment:
“One God had a book authored and made available to everyone in the world. This God says, “I exist” and seems to want us to know him, and how he deals with people. Other gods seem less concerned with us knowing they exist.”My argument is simply this: If other gods existed, they don't seem to want to make it known. But if you look closely, you'll notice that the Bible is about one specific God, from beginning to end, and that amazingly, this book has not just survived, but become available to everyone.
Kejonn, whether you consider this book to be filled with outdated practices or not, does not erase the fact that everyone on the planet has access to that book, whereas all the other gods seem to still be negotiating editing rights.
Quote (david @ Jan. 28 2010,17:42) Quote (kejonn @ Jan. 25 2010,21:51) Quote (david @ Jan. 24 2010,23:49) Quote All I am asking is for theists to show me why other gods are false or non-existent while there own god is the only true one. –kejonn
There seems to be one basic answer given:
One God had a book authored and made available to everyone in the world. This God says, “I exist” and seems to want us to know him, and how he deals with people. Other gods seem less concerned with us knowing they exist. Or if they do want us to know they exist, they need to find better publishers, because the God that says he exists, has been on the best seller list for quite a while.
A book that is very flawed and full of ancient, outdated practices. Since this god does not revise with the times and speak to modern man, I would not say that this god can be believed in any more than those who don't have some ancient tome.
Unless he died?
Quote Is this an argument based on popularity?
Those are never good arguments.
Kejonn, you did not address my point.You ask:
All I am asking is for theists to show me why other gods are false or non-existent while there own god is the only true one.My comment:
“One God had a book authored and made available to everyone in the world. This God says, “I exist” and seems to want us to know him, and how he deals with people. Other gods seem less concerned with us knowing they exist.”My argument is simply this: If other gods existed, they don't seem to want to make it known. But if you look closely, you'll notice that the Bible is about one specific God, from beginning to end, and that amazingly, this book has not just survived, but become available to everyone.
Kejonn, whether you consider this book to be filled with outdated practices or not, does not erase the fact that everyone on the planet has access to that book, whereas all the other gods seem to still be negotiating editing rights.
I am glad you believe that there is only ONE GOD, Because The Holy Bible and The Quran are from the same Author and both are available to everyoneQuote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 28 2010,18:10) I am glad you believe that there is only ONE GOD, Because The Holy Bible and The Quran are from the same Author and both are available to everyone
Hi BD,Are you now calling an Angel (Gabriel?) God?
Col:2:18: Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels(satan),
intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by (the 'book of fraud' and) his fleshly mind,I thought you said there was 'only' one God?
Explain your inconsistencies and Hypocrisy.Ed J
Quote (david @ Jan. 28 2010,00:42) Kejonn, you did not address my point. You ask:
All I am asking is for theists to show me why other gods are false or non-existent while there own god is the only true one.In a nutshell.
Quote My comment:
“One God had a book authored and made available to everyone in the world. This God says, “I exist” and seems to want us to know him, and how he deals with people. Other gods seem less concerned with us knowing they exist.”What of the Rigveda? Avesta? Both were authored by people who spoke for their god, just as the bible has been. There really is no indication at all that your god authored any bit of the bible, just claims that he has.
And as to other gods, they seem to be revealing themselves to other people, so why should I disbelieve what they say about their god(s) and believe what you say about yours? Because of some ancient book?
The Iliad is an ancient text, too. What does having an ancient text mean?
Quote My argument is simply this: If other gods existed, they don't seem to want to make it known. Sure they do. To the people that believe in them. If all you have is a book claiming other people knew a god, then that isn't much. I can find you books on people who believe in fairies.
Quote But if you look closely, you'll notice that the Bible is about one specific God, from beginning to end, and that amazingly, this book has not just survived, but become available to everyone. It claims to be about the same god, but its amazing how this god changes with the passing of time. First he is a tribal volcano god, then he is a god who only speaks through his prophets (still to the same tribe), and now he is supposed to be some god represented by the character of Jesus. Hate to say it, but Jesus is really not much like the god of the Jews found in the OT. Anyone taking a critical look at the bible can plainly see that.
Quote Kejonn, whether you consider this book to be filled with outdated practices or not, does not erase the fact that everyone on the planet has access to that book, whereas all the other gods seem to still be negotiating editing rights.
So you are saying that since the Rigveda has not been changed in hundreds of years, that it is also proof of the god(s) of the Hindus?Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 26 2010,11:52) Quote (kejonn @ Jan. 26 2010,15:14) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 25 2010,18:02) The Torah states that it was told to Abraham directly from God, is that a lie?
God cannot verify, so as far as I know, it is a lie.Will the real god please step forward?
So do you think Abrahm just decided to start circumcising on a whim?
If Abraham existed, and he did start circumcising, then he could have very well borrowed the practice from the Egyptians.Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 29 2010,03:23) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 28 2010,18:10) I am glad you believe that there is only ONE GOD, Because The Holy Bible and The Quran are from the same Author and both are available to everyone
Hi BD,Are you now calling an Angel (Gabriel?) God?
Col:2:18: Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels(satan),
intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by (the 'book of fraud' and) his fleshly mind,I thought you said there was 'only' one God?
Explain your inconsistencies and Hypocrisy.Ed J
Gabriel is not the Author of the Quran, The Quran is The Word of God delivered by Gabriel to Muhammad.Say: Whoever is an enemy to gabriel-for he brings down the (revelation) to thy heart by Allah.s will, a confirmation of what went before, and guidance and glad tidings for those who believe,-
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #97)Whoever is an enemy to Allah and His angels and apostles, to gabriel and Michael,- Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith.
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #98)Quote (kejonn @ Jan. 29 2010,04:01) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 26 2010,11:52) Quote (kejonn @ Jan. 26 2010,15:14) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 25 2010,18:02) The Torah states that it was told to Abraham directly from God, is that a lie?
God cannot verify, so as far as I know, it is a lie.Will the real god please step forward?
So do you think Abrahm just decided to start circumcising on a whim?
If Abraham existed, and he did start circumcising, then he could have very well borrowed the practice from the Egyptians.
Why, would that be the case? What makes you think the Jews did not introduce circumcision to the egyptians? Of course it was before they were called Jews but those who were hebrew.You have no knowledge about this and yet you speak.
The Hebrew culture was integrated into Egyptian culture and because of this many in the egyptian culture took up the ways of the Hebrews especially after the incident with Moses, but you comment foolishly. did you know that in egypt they have also found heiroglyphys describing the parting of the red sea?
Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 28 2010,12:08) Why, would that be the case? What makes you think the Jews did not introduce circumcision to the egyptians? Of course it was before they were called Jews but those who were hebrew. The only record we have of Abraham and circumcision is the bible. The bible has been theorized to have been redacted after or during the Babylonian Exile, so it is not really a reliable source of information.
However, we do proof of the Egyptians performing circumcision in temple reliefs. From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_male_circumcision
Sixth Dynasty (2345 – 2181 BC) tomb artwork in Egypt is thought to be the oldest documentary evidence of circumcision. The most ancient depiction being a bas-relief from the necropolis at Saqqara (ca. 2400 B.C) with the inscription reading “Hold him and do not allow him to faint”. The oldest written account, by an Egyptian named Uha, in the 23rd century B.C, sees him describe a mass circumcision and boast of his ability to stoically endure the pain: “When I was circumcised, together with one hundred and twenty men…there was none thereof who hit out, there was none thereof who was hit, and there was none thereof who scratched and there was none thereof who was scratched.”[2]
Circumcision in ancient Egypt was thought to be a mark of passage from childhood to adulthood. The alteration of the body and ritual of circumcision was supposed to give access to ancient mysteries reserved solely for the initiated. The content of those mysteries are unclear but are likely to be myths, prayers, and incantations central to Egyptian religion. The Egyptian Book of the Dead, for example, tells of the sun god Ra performing a self-circumcision, whose blood created two minor guardian deities. Circumcisions were performed by priests in a public ceremony, using a stone blade. It is thought to have been more popular among the upper echelons of the society, although it was not universal and those lower down the social order are known to have had the procedure done.[3] The Egyptian hieroglyph for “penis” depicts either a circumcised or an erect organ.
Circumcision was later adopted by Semitic peoples living in or around Egypt. The Book of Jeremiah, written in the sixth century BC, lists Israelites, Edomites, Ammonites, and Moabites as circumcising cultures. Herodotus, writing in the fifth century BC, ascribed circumcision to the Colchians, Ethiopians, Phoenicians, and Syrians and Macrones, as well as to the Egyptian priestly caste. He also reports, however, that the salutary influence of Greek culture induced the Phoenicians to abandon circumcision.[4]
Quote You have no knowledge about this and yet you speak. See above. Seems I have more knowledge than you think.
Quote The Hebrew culture was integrated into Egyptian culture and because of this many in the egyptian culture took up the ways of the Hebrews especially after the incident with Moses, but you comment foolishly. did you know that in egypt they have also found heiroglyphys describing the parting of the red sea?
From Did the Red Sea Part? No Evidence, Archaeologists SayBut archaeologists who have worked here have never turned up evidence to support the account in the Bible, and there is only one archaeological find that even suggests the Jews were ever in Egypt. Books have been written on the topic, but the discussion has, for the most part, remained low-key as the empirically minded have tried not to incite the spiritually minded.
“Sometimes as archaeologists we have to say that never happened because there is no historical evidence,” Dr. Hawass said, as he led the journalists across a rutted field of stiff and rocky sand.
The site was a two-hour drive from Cairo, over the Mubarak Peace Bridge into the Northern Sinai area called Qantara East. For nearly 10 years, Egyptian archaeologists have scratched away at the soil here, using day laborers from nearby towns to help unearth bits of history. It is a vast expanse of nothingness, a flat desert moonscape. Two human skeletons were recently uncovered, their bones positioned besides pottery and Egyptian scarabs.
As archaeological sites go, it is clearly a stepchild to the more sought-after digs in other parts of the country that have revealed treasures of pharaonic times. A barefoot worker in a track suit tried to press through the crowd to get the officials leading the tour to give him his pay, and tramped off angrily when he was rebuffed.
Recently, diggers found evidence of lava from a volcano in the Mediterranean Sea that erupted in 1500 B.C. and is believed to have killed 35,000 people and wiped out villages in Egypt, Palestine and the Arabian Peninsula, officials here said. The same diggers found evidence of a military fort with four rectangular towers, now considered the oldest fort on the Horus military road.
But nothing was showing up that might help prove the Old Testament story of Moses and the Israelites fleeing Egypt, or wandering in the desert. Dr. Hawass said he was not surprised, given the lack of archaeological evidence to date. But even scientists can find room to hold on to beliefs.
And http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1077220.html
Since Egyptian hieroglyphics were first deciphered, enormous numbers of ancient Egyptian writings have been translated into modern languages, contributing to a better understanding of the history of the land of the pharaohs. But in none of these texts has there been any mention of the dramatic events that appear in the biblical Book of Exodus. For this reason scientists have been hard-pressed to point to solid historical evidence for the story of the Exodus, linking the biblical description to events mentioned in other historical sources. This does not mean the scientists have stopped trying.
Quote (kejonn @ Jan. 29 2010,05:52) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 28 2010,12:08) Why, would that be the case? What makes you think the Jews did not introduce circumcision to the egyptians? Of course it was before they were called Jews but those who were hebrew. The only record we have of Abraham and circumcision is the bible. The bible has been theorized to have been redacted after or during the Babylonian Exile, so it is not really a reliable source of information.
However, we do proof of the Egyptians performing circumcision in temple reliefs. From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_male_circumcision
Sixth Dynasty (2345 – 2181 BC) tomb artwork in Egypt is thought to be the oldest documentary evidence of circumcision. The most ancient depiction being a bas-relief from the necropolis at Saqqara (ca. 2400 B.C) with the inscription reading “Hold him and do not allow him to faint”. The oldest written account, by an Egyptian named Uha, in the 23rd century B.C, sees him describe a mass circumcision and boast of his ability to stoically endure the pain: “When I was circumcised, together with one hundred and twenty men…there was none thereof who hit out, there was none thereof who was hit, and there was none thereof who scratched and there was none thereof who was scratched.”[2]
Circumcision in ancient Egypt was thought to be a mark of passage from childhood to adulthood. The alteration of the body and ritual of circumcision was supposed to give access to ancient mysteries reserved solely for the initiated. The content of those mysteries are unclear but are likely to be myths, prayers, and incantations central to Egyptian religion. The Egyptian Book of the Dead, for example, tells of the sun god Ra performing a self-circumcision, whose blood created two minor guardian deities. Circumcisions were performed by priests in a public ceremony, using a stone blade. It is thought to have been more popular among the upper echelons of the society, although it was not universal and those lower down the social order are known to have had the procedure done.[3] The Egyptian hieroglyph for “penis” depicts either a circumcised or an erect organ.
Circumcision was later adopted by Semitic peoples living in or around Egypt. The Book of Jeremiah, written in the sixth century BC, lists Israelites, Edomites, Ammonites, and Moabites as circumcising cultures. Herodotus, writing in the fifth century BC, ascribed circumcision to the Colchians, Ethiopians, Phoenicians, and Syrians and Macrones, as well as to the Egyptian priestly caste. He also reports, however, that the salutary influence of Greek culture induced the Phoenicians to abandon circumcision.[4]
Quote You have no knowledge about this and yet you speak. See above. Seems I have more knowledge than you think.
Quote The Hebrew culture was integrated into Egyptian culture and because of this many in the egyptian culture took up the ways of the Hebrews especially after the incident with Moses, but you comment foolishly. did you know that in egypt they have also found heiroglyphys describing the parting of the red sea?
From Did the Red Sea Part? No Evidence, Archaeologists SayBut archaeologists who have worked here have never turned up evidence to support the account in the Bible, and there is only one archaeological find that even suggests the Jews were ever in Egypt. Books have been written on the topic, but the discussion has, for the most part, remained low-key as the empirically minded have tried not to incite the spiritually minded.
“Sometimes as archaeologists we have to say that never happened because there is no historical evidence,” Dr. Hawass said, as he led the journalists across a rutted field of stiff and rocky sand.
The site was a two-hour drive from Cairo, over the Mubarak Peace Bridge into the Northern Sinai area called Qantara East. For nearly 10 years, Egyptian archaeologists have scratched away at the soil here, using day laborers from nearby towns to help unearth bits of history. It is a vast expanse of nothingness, a flat desert moonscape. Two human skeletons were recently uncovered, their bones positioned besides pottery and Egyptian scarabs.
As archaeological sites go, it is clearly a stepchild to the more sought-after digs in other parts of the country that have revealed treasures of pharaonic times. A barefoot worker in a track suit tried to press through the crowd to get the officials leading the tour to give him his pay, and tramped off angrily when he was rebuffed.
Recently, diggers found evidence of lava from a volcano in the Mediterranean Sea that erupted in 1500 B.C. and is believed to have killed 35,000 people and wiped out villages in Egypt, Palestine and the Arabian Peninsula, officials here said. The same diggers found evidence of a military fort with four rectangular towers, now considered the oldest fort on the Horus military road.
But nothing was showing up that might help prove the Old Testament story of Moses and the Israelites fleeing Egypt, or wandering in the desert. Dr. Hawass said he was not surprised, given the lack of archaeological evidence to date. But even scientists can find room to hold on to beliefs.
And http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1077220.html
Since Egyptian hieroglyphics were first deciphered, enormous numbers of ancient Egyptian writings have been translated into modern languages, contributing to a better understanding of the history of the land of the pharaohs. But in none of these texts has there been any mention of the dramatic events that appear in the biblical Book of Exodus. For this reason scientists have been hard-pressed to point to solid historical evidence for the story of the Exodus, linking the biblical description to events mentioned in other historical sources. This does not mean the scientists have stopped trying.
Did you purposely leave out this first sentence?Quote The origination of male circumcision is not known with certainty. Once again you don't know what your talking about.
Sinaitic Inscriptions in Wadee El-Mukattab, Sinai
Above Inscription shot in 1857 by Francis Frith (1822-1898)
BOOK TITLE: Sinai, Palestine, The Nile. ca. 1863
Below from Sinai Inscriptions found– Exodus from Egypt?
——————————————————————————–
Compare Moses' description in the Bible below about the events surrounding the escape from Egypt, with the following 8 ancient inscriptions found on different cliffs in the Wadi Sid
ra area of the Sinai.
Wadi Sidra is a possible natural route the Jews may have chosen in the Sinai after escaping Egypt. The exact route remains uncertain.Inscriptions BEGIN:
“The wind blowing, the sea dividing into parts, they pass over”“The Hebrews flee through the sea; the sea is turned into dry land.”
“The waters permitted and dismissed to flow, burst rushing unawares upon the astonished men, congregated from quarters banded together to slay treacherously being lifted up with pride.”
“The leader divideth asunder the sea, its waves roaring. The people enter, and pass through the midst of the waters.”
“Moses causeth the people to haste like a fleet-winged she-ostrich crying aloud; the cloud shining bright,
a mighty army propelled into the Red sea is gathered into one;
they go jumping and skipping.
Journeying through the open channel,
taking flight from the face of the enemy.
The surge of the sea is divided.”“The people flee, the tribes descend into the deep.
The people enter the waters.
The people enter and penetrate through the midst.
The people are filled with stupor and perturbation.
Jehovah is the keeper and companion.”“Their enemies weep for the dead, the virgins are wailing.
The sea flowing down overwhelmed them.
The waters were let loose to flow again.”The people depart fugitive.
A mighty army is submerged in the deep sea,
the only way of escape for the congregated people.”
Inscriptions ENDQuote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 28 2010,13:46) Did you purposely leave out this first sentence? No, but more evidence points to the practice originating with the Egyptians. If actual evidence counts for anything, then it seems the Hebrew people were johnny-come-latelies.
Quote Once again you don't know what your talking about. I gave sources. What have you got?
Quote Sinaitic Inscriptions in Wadee El-Mukattab, Sinai
Above Inscription shot in 1857 by Francis Frith (1822-1898)
BOOK TITLE: Sinai, Palestine, The Nile. ca. 1863
Below from Sinai Inscriptions found– Exodus from Egypt?
——————————————————————————–
Compare Moses' description in the Bible below about the events surrounding the escape from Egypt, with the following 8 ancient inscriptions found on different cliffs in the Wadi Sidra area of the Sinai.
Wadi Sidra is a possible natural route the Jews may have chosen in the Sinai after escaping Egypt. The exact route remains uncertain.Inscriptions BEGIN:
“The wind blowing, the sea dividing into parts, they pass over”“The Hebrews flee through the sea; the sea is turned into dry land.”
“The waters permitted and dismissed to flow, burst rushing unawares upon the astonished men, congregated from quarters banded together to slay treacherously being lifted up with pride.”
“The leader divideth asunder the sea, its waves roaring. The people enter, and pass through the midst of the waters.”
“Moses causeth the people to haste like a fleet-winged she-ostrich crying aloud; the cloud shining bright,
a mighty army propelled into the Red sea is gathered into one;
they go jumping and skipping.
Journeying through the open channel,
taking flight from the face of the enemy.
The surge of the sea is divided.”“The people flee, the tribes descend into the deep.
The people enter the waters.
The people enter and penetrate through the midst.
The people are filled with stupor and perturbation.
Jehovah is the keeper and companion.”“Their enemies weep for the dead, the virgins are wailing.
The sea flowing down overwhelmed them.
The waters were let loose to flow again.”The people depart fugitive.
A mighty army is submerged in the deep sea,
the only way of escape for the congregated people.”
Inscriptions END
Care to give anything peer-reviewed? I could not find any legitimate sources that can verify this information.Quote (kejonn @ Jan. 29 2010,08:32) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 28 2010,13:46) Did you purposely leave out this first sentence? No, but more evidence points to the practice originating with the Egyptians. If actual evidence counts for anything, then it seems the Hebrew people were johnny-come-latelies.
Quote Once again you don't know what your talking about. I gave sources. What have you got?
Quote Sinaitic Inscriptions in Wadee El-Mukattab, Sinai
Above Inscription shot in 1857 by Francis Frith (1822-1898)
BOOK TITLE: Sinai, Palestine, The Nile. ca. 1863
Below from Sinai Inscriptions found– Exodus from Egypt?
——————————————————————————–
Compare Moses' description in the Bible below about the events surrounding the escape from Egypt, with the following 8 ancient inscriptions found on different cliffs in the Wadi Sidra area of the Sinai.
Wadi Sidra is a possible natural route the Jews may have chosen in the Sinai after escaping Egypt. The exact route remains uncertain.Inscriptions BEGIN:
“The wind blowing, the sea dividing into parts, they pass over”“The Hebrews flee through the sea; the sea is turned into dry land.”
“The waters permitted and dismissed to flow, burst rushing unawares upon the astonished men, congregated from quarters banded together to slay treacherously being lifted up with pride.”
“The leader divideth asunder the sea, its waves roaring. The people enter, and pass through the midst of the waters.”
“Moses causeth the people to haste like a fleet-winged she-ostrich crying aloud; the cloud shining bright,
a mighty army propelled into the Red sea is gathered into one;
they go jumping and skipping.
Journeying through the open channel,
taking flight from the face of the enemy.
The surge of the sea is divided.”“The people flee, the tribes descend into the deep.
The people enter the waters.
The people enter and penetrate through the midst.
The people are filled with stupor and perturbation.
Jehovah is the keeper and companion.”“Their enemies weep for the dead, the virgins are wailing.
The sea flowing down overwhelmed them.
The waters were let loose to flow again.”The people depart fugitive.
A mighty army is submerged in the deep sea,
the only way of escape for the congregated people.”
Inscriptions END
Care to give anything peer-reviewed? I could not find any legitimate sources that can verify this information.
Why is it when you give information you think it's fine the way it is but when somone else gives information suddenly you need perr reviewed information?What does that even mean? Wouldn't my peers be those who vouch for what I believe?
Let me ask you this, how did the earth get seeded, Plants get planted by an action so how did plants get spread about?
Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 28 2010,16:13) Why is it when you give information you think it's fine the way it is but when somone else gives information suddenly you need perr reviewed information? Because the fact that no archaeological evidence exists for anything in the Exodus story is well known fact. I gave you at least two sources, I can give you more. The only thing you supply is one dubious source.
If you'd like, you can pick up a copy of The Bible Unearthed: Archaeology's New Vision of Ancient Israel and the Origin of Its Sacred Texts. It basically debunks much of the bible as happening the way the writers tell it. Including the Exodus.
Any scholarly work on your so-called hieroglyphs?
Quote What does that even mean? Wouldn't my peers be those who vouch for what I believe? Only if they had legitimate work. A hoax is still a hoax no matter how many believe in it.
Quote Let me ask you this, how did the earth get seeded, Plants get planted by an action so how did plants get spread about?
Don't know, was not there. My guess is that they evolved from algae, another organism that contains chlorophyll. If I was interested, I would check into the science behind it, not throw my ands up and say “Goddidit!”.Quote (kejonn @ Jan. 29 2010,11:35) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 28 2010,16:13) Why is it when you give information you think it's fine the way it is but when somone else gives information suddenly you need perr reviewed information? Because the fact that no archaeological evidence exists for anything in the Exodus story is well known fact. I gave you at least two sources, I can give you more. The only thing you supply is one dubious source.
If you'd like, you can pick up a copy of The Bible Unearthed: Archaeology's New Vision of Ancient Israel and the Origin of Its Sacred Texts. It basically debunks much of the bible as happening the way the writers tell it. Including the Exodus.
Any scholarly work on your so-called hieroglyphs?
Quote What does that even mean? Wouldn't my peers be those who vouch for what I believe? Only if they had legitimate work. A hoax is still a hoax no matter how many believe in it.
Quote Let me ask you this, how did the earth get seeded, Plants get planted by an action so how did plants get spread about?
Don't know, was not there. My guess is that they evolved from algae, another organism that contains chlorophyll. If I was interested, I would check into the science behind it, not throw my ands up and say “Goddidit!”.
How would you know what is a hoax, is the theory of evolution a hoax? If not why not, because a lot of scientists agree?By the way how wpuld algae account for the spread of all trees and plants including desert plants?
and what about fruit trees? how did they get planted?
What would you need to do to get grass and plants and fruit trees in your yard? Do yo believe if you could wait long enough it would just happen? Use some sense!
You didn't just forget God you forgot your common sense
Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 28 2010,18:58) How would you know what is a hoax, is the theory of evolution a hoax? If not why not, because a lot of scientists agree? More legitimate biological scientists agree with evolutionary theory than they do intelligent design. There really is no science to support ID.
What does this have to do with your hieroglyphs?
Quote By the way how wpuld algae account for the spread of all trees and plants including desert plants? Algae evolves to plants, plants develop seeds, seeds are carried by the wind or by animals…I'm sure you get the picture.
What does this have to do with hieroglyphs?
And what does hieroglyphs have to do with this thread?
Quote and what about fruit trees? how did they get planted? Same as above. Trees = plants.
Quote What would you need to do to get grass and plants and fruit trees in your yard? Do yo believe if you could wait long enough it would just happen? Use some sense! It is sense. All you have to do is exert more effort to understand these things as opposed to giving up and letting your god of the gaps fill in the blanks of your knowledge.
Quote You didn't just forget God you forgot your common sense
What does common sense have to do with any god?Quote (kejonn @ Jan. 29 2010,13:47) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 28 2010,18:58) How would you know what is a hoax, is the theory of evolution a hoax? If not why not, because a lot of scientists agree? More legitimate biological scientists agree with evolutionary theory than they do intelligent design. There really is no science to support ID.
What does this have to do with your hieroglyphs?
Quote By the way how wpuld algae account for the spread of all trees and plants including desert plants? Algae evolves to plants, plants develop seeds, seeds are carried by the wind or by animals…I'm sure you get the picture.
What does this have to do with hieroglyphs?
And what does hieroglyphs have to do with this thread?
Quote and what about fruit trees? how did they get planted? Same as above. Trees = plants.
Quote What would you need to do to get grass and plants and fruit trees in your yard? Do yo believe if you could wait long enough it would just happen? Use some sense! It is sense. All you have to do is exert more effort to understand these things as opposed to giving up and letting your god of the gaps fill in the blanks of your knowledge.
Quote You didn't just forget God you forgot your common sense
What does common sense have to do with any god?
So plants came before seeds? and what did birds eat before seeds were “evolved” Do you see how ill informed you are?Did you not know that grass holds the soil in place? How did grass get spread out like a carpet?
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