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Quote (Not3in1 @ Jan. 25 2010,18:04) Bod, Have you read The God Delusion? Good read – a must for Christians who want the “flip side” to Josh McDowells, “Evidence Demands a Verdict”.
Mandy
Hi Not3! Howz it going?I would add God is Not Great, with Christopher Hitchens's argument for the existence of Jesus based on the effort the gospel writers made in inventing things that never happened (the census, for example) in order to make Jesus fulfill what they saw as prophecy.
Are you convinced by this McDowell fellow?
Stuart
Quote (Not3in1 @ Jan. 25 2010,18:04) Bod, Have you read The God Delusion? Good read – a must for Christians who want the “flip side” to Josh McDowells, “Evidence Demands a Verdict”.
Mandy
Yes, I have read parts of it and it is rather silly as all of rawkins work tends to be.You must understand that Atheism is a disease in which no evidence of God is considered. Many Christians get causght up trying to prove God to atheists by trying to appeal to the atheists “rational” side but the fact is those with the Athesists disease are similar to those with a racial hatred.
There was a time for instance in America that just the accusation of a blackman doing a crime especially concerning white woman, that man would be put to death or imprisoned indefinitely and no matter what the evidence was that the Black man could not have done the crime he would still be held guilty and lynched.
STU, Kejonn and others like them hae an actual Disease called Atheism, you cannot provide any evidence of God no matter what it is, even if God would personally speak to them they would simply assume they were being delusional at the time.
I recently identified Atheism as a disorder. I actually have to thank STU for helping me to identify this I had maybe a year ago mentioned this on an atheist site but I dismissed it because I though the evidence I had regarding the disease was the result of peer pressure at that site but here it became clear that it is truly a disease.
I asked STU is it possible for a virgin to be artificially inseminated which woul thereby produce a virgin birth and I explained to him that the disease would not allow him to simply say, “Yes, that would be a virgin birth”
And guess what, he could not do it.
Quote (Stu @ Jan. 25 2010,18:38) Quote (Not3in1 @ Jan. 25 2010,18:04) Bod, Have you read The God Delusion? Good read – a must for Christians who want the “flip side” to Josh McDowells, “Evidence Demands a Verdict”.
Mandy
Hi Not3! Howz it going?I would add God is Not Great, with Christopher Hitchens's argument for the existence of Jesus based on the effort the gospel writers made in inventing things that never happened (the census, for example) in order to make Jesus fulfill what they saw as prophecy.
Are you convinced by this McDowell fellow?
Stuart
STU,Once again pay attention:
Christopher Hitchens saying “God is not great” is tantamount to saying I don't like God meaning that there is a God not to like.
Richard Dawkins is insane in his constant double talk as well. If there is no God what is there to constantly talk about? Would any sane person go to a mental ward and try to argue and convince the patients that what they are experiencing is not real and besides they don't like the imaginary beings?
It is really quite insane.
Let's talk about the giant turnip in my room, let's see how interested you are in that.
Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 25 2010,19:45) Quote (Stu @ Jan. 25 2010,18:38) Quote (Not3in1 @ Jan. 25 2010,18:04) Bod, Have you read The God Delusion? Good read – a must for Christians who want the “flip side” to Josh McDowells, “Evidence Demands a Verdict”.
Mandy
Hi Not3! Howz it going?I would add God is Not Great, with Christopher Hitchens's argument for the existence of Jesus based on the effort the gospel writers made in inventing things that never happened (the census, for example) in order to make Jesus fulfill what they saw as prophecy.
Are you convinced by this McDowell fellow?
Stuart
STU,Once again pay attention:
Christopher Hitchens saying “God is not great” is tantamount to saying I don't like God meaning that there is a God not to like.
Richard Dawkins is insane in his constant double talk as well. If there is no God what is there to constantly talk about? Would any sane person go to a mental ward and try to argue and convince the patients that what they are experiencing is not real and besides they don't like the imaginary beings?
It is really quite insane.
Let's talk about the giant turnip in my room, let's see how interested you are in that.
Dawkins and Hitchens are the ones able to pretend that the delusion is real for the sake of discussion.You are the one unable to concede that as a working hypothesis.
All I can conclude from that is you are insecure in your faith in things that cannot be shown to be really there, and cannot allow yourself to risk reality seeping in.
Can you see the giant turnip?
Stuart
Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 25 2010,19:37) You must understand that Atheism is a disease in which no evidence of God is considered. Many Christians get causght up trying to prove God to atheists by trying to appeal to the atheists “rational” side but the fact is those with the Athesists disease are similar to those with a racial hatred. STU, Kejonn and others like them hae an actual Disease called Atheism, you cannot provide any evidence of God no matter what it is, even if God would personally speak to them they would simply assume they were being delusional at the time.
I recently identified Atheism as a disorder. I actually have to thank STU for helping me to identify this I had maybe a year ago mentioned this on an atheist site but I dismissed it because I though the evidence I had regarding the disease was the result of peer pressure at that site but here it became clear that it is truly a disease.
Hi BD,Is Atheists disease contagious, can I catch it by talking to Kejonn and Stuart?
Ed J
Quote (Stu @ Jan. 25 2010,19:51) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 25 2010,19:45) Quote (Stu @ Jan. 25 2010,18:38) Quote (Not3in1 @ Jan. 25 2010,18:04) Bod, Have you read The God Delusion? Good read – a must for Christians who want the “flip side” to Josh McDowells, “Evidence Demands a Verdict”.
Mandy
Hi Not3! Howz it going?I would add God is Not Great, with Christopher Hitchens's argument for the existence of Jesus based on the effort the gospel writers made in inventing things that never happened (the census, for example) in order to make Jesus fulfill what they saw as prophecy.
Are you convinced by this McDowell fellow?
Stuart
STU,Once again pay attention:
Christopher Hitchens saying “God is not great” is tantamount to saying I don't like God meaning that there is a God not to like.
Richard Dawkins is insane in his constant double talk as well. If there is no God what is there to constantly talk about? Would any sane person go to a mental ward and try to argue and convince the patients that what they are experiencing is not real and besides they don't like the imaginary beings?
It is really quite insane.
Let's talk about the giant turnip in my room, let's see how interested you are in that.
Dawkins and Hitchens are the ones able to pretend that the delusion is real for the sake of discussion.You are the one unable to concede that as a working hypothesis.
All I can conclude from that is you are insecure in your faith in things that cannot be shown to be really there, and cannot allow yourself to risk reality seeping in.
Can you see the giant turnip?
Stuart
Why would they invest so much time in a delusion except for the fact that they make a living off of what they call a lie.I can't see the giant green turnip I just assume it's there, what do you think? Is it real?
BD
Quote Yes, I have read parts of it and it is rather silly as all of rawkins work tends to be.
I agree that some of it does read as a bit silly in parts, and having reflected on that in comparison to his other books which are brilliant in their communicative power, I conclude that it is the subject material at fault. Religious belief itself is silly.Quote Kejonn and others like them hae an actual Disease called Atheism, you cannot provide any evidence of God no matter what it is, even if God would personally speak to them they would simply assume they were being delusional at the time.
Does kejonn identify as an atheist? That would be news to me. He has been on a long journey of discovery and has cast off a lot of the kind of trivial nonsense that you hold dear. Maybe he has ended the journey at disbelief, but I would suspect not. At the very least, no matter what his beliefs are, you could learn from him the art of constructing a valid argument, one that is not composed of logical fallacies.Stuart
Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 25 2010,19:58) Quote (Stu @ Jan. 25 2010,19:51) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 25 2010,19:45) Quote (Stu @ Jan. 25 2010,18:38) Quote (Not3in1 @ Jan. 25 2010,18:04) Bod, Have you read The God Delusion? Good read – a must for Christians who want the “flip side” to Josh McDowells, “Evidence Demands a Verdict”.
Mandy
Hi Not3! Howz it going?I would add God is Not Great, with Christopher Hitchens's argument for the existence of Jesus based on the effort the gospel writers made in inventing things that never happened (the census, for example) in order to make Jesus fulfill what they saw as prophecy.
Are you convinced by this McDowell fellow?
Stuart
STU,Once again pay attention:
Christopher Hitchens saying “God is not great” is tantamount to saying I don't like God meaning that there is a God not to like.
Richard Dawkins is insane in his constant double talk as well. If there is no God what is there to constantly talk about? Would any sane person go to a mental ward and try to argue and convince the patients that what they are experiencing is not real and besides they don't like the imaginary beings?
It is really quite insane.
Let's talk about the giant turnip in my room, let's see how interested you are in that.
Dawkins and Hitchens are the ones able to pretend that the delusion is real for the sake of discussion.You are the one unable to concede that as a working hypothesis.
All I can conclude from that is you are insecure in your faith in things that cannot be shown to be really there, and cannot allow yourself to risk reality seeping in.
Can you see the giant turnip?
Stuart
Why would they invest so much time in a delusion except for the fact that they make a living off of what they call a lie.I can't see the giant green turnip I just assume it's there, what do you think? Is it real?
Well indeed they are making a great deal of money in the US. They are selling a lot of books, and especially Dawkins is to people whose families are in the 'guns and religion' category, those individuals having a slightly hard time getting to the point of telling their family in a gentle way that they regard what they believe as nonsense.That is not really making money from a lie, is it. That would be Kent Hovind, Pat Buchanan and Louis Farrakhan doing that.
Stuart
Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 25 2010,19:53) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 25 2010,19:37) You must understand that Atheism is a disease in which no evidence of God is considered. Many Christians get causght up trying to prove God to atheists by trying to appeal to the atheists “rational” side but the fact is those with the Athesists disease are similar to those with a racial hatred. STU, Kejonn and others like them hae an actual Disease called Atheism, you cannot provide any evidence of God no matter what it is, even if God would personally speak to them they would simply assume they were being delusional at the time.
I recently identified Atheism as a disorder. I actually have to thank STU for helping me to identify this I had maybe a year ago mentioned this on an atheist site but I dismissed it because I though the evidence I had regarding the disease was the result of peer pressure at that site but here it became clear that it is truly a disease.
Hi BD,Is Atheists disease contagious, can I catch it by talking to Kejonn and Stuart?
Ed J
Good question. I think you will find that it is contagious, judging by the number of christian fundamentalists who turn their backs on religion (although that often happens just from realising that scripture does not fit the real world), and especially judging by the fact that 75% of new islamic converts go apostate within 2-3 years. Many of them turn to christianity, so perhaps that is a contagious disease too.I guess whatever the situation, it will not be BD admitting that he has any kind of disease. Except perhaps in the past tense when he too joins those 75%.
If you want to know the relationship between religious belief and disease then you need to know about memes, which are the cultural equivalent of genes, and are passed on from brain to brain. The most successful memes hijack the most brains, and religious memes mimic epidemic disease in their patterns of spread. As atheism is a system of non-belief, as much as it may involve 'catching onto' the idea that all gods are imaginary, it must just as much represent loss of a meme for those who deconvert from a religion.
Did all that make sense to you?
Stuart
Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 25 2010,19:53) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 25 2010,19:37) You must understand that Atheism is a disease in which no evidence of God is considered. Many Christians get causght up trying to prove God to atheists by trying to appeal to the atheists “rational” side but the fact is those with the Athesists disease are similar to those with a racial hatred. STU, Kejonn and others like them hae an actual Disease called Atheism, you cannot provide any evidence of God no matter what it is, even if God would personally speak to them they would simply assume they were being delusional at the time.
I recently identified Atheism as a disorder. I actually have to thank STU for helping me to identify this I had maybe a year ago mentioned this on an atheist site but I dismissed it because I though the evidence I had regarding the disease was the result of peer pressure at that site but here it became clear that it is truly a disease.
Hi BD,Is Atheists disease contagious, can I catch it by talking to Kejonn and Stuart?
Ed J
You can't catch it directly but the disease can undermine your spiritual immune system which can lead to the Atheists Disease.For instance let's assume you are trying to prove to an Atheist that God exists and you start out by saying all the wonderful things you have personally experienced having God in your life. The Atheist will congratulate you on your life being improved but will quickly remind you that you could have made those changes without believing in God.
So, with that being said you want to convince the Atheist more so you start being super polite and loving to the Atheist to show that your accepting and not judging him the Atheist loves this because it gives him space to express his views that undermine your belief and will soon after start asking you why do you believe in any Holy Books especially when there are terrible things in there
Although uncomfortable with the Atheist being critical of the Holy Book you repress your emotions as he calls God all sorts of filthy names and says that God is not worthy to worship.
Then the person will get desperate and try to appeal to the Atheist on other terms such as scientific in which the believer will start trying to talk about irreducible complexity and other types of complex “proofs” the Atheist enjoys this part because the believer has turned from the Larger truth into “needle in the haystack ” type of thinking.
They will start trying to look for one single thing they could say or find that they are convinced if they could find it the Atheist would repent and it would all be worthwhile, This is when the Believer is in the greatest danger but usually is not aware of it because the problem is now like a Fish in water looking for water Before dealing with the Atheist the believer overflowing with the presence of God but after the great distraction of the Atheist the believer finds himself looking desperately for what he already had if he withdraws from the Atheist at this point he may get away with his belief in-tact if not the infection may take hold like it did with Kejonn and next thing you know the person has the Athesim Disease and it's very hard to cure.
You can see some people here that have been exposed to it in varying degrees. When confronting an Atheist you have to take in consideration that he does not know that God is Real and evidence of God to him is meaningless.
In most cases a religious person should simply resist talking to an Atheist as it is written “resist the devil and he will flee from you”
But if you wish to engage you must take the HIGH GROUND which is not being “really nice” but to be really Honest. The Atheist must be told that if no evidence of God is acceptable, what is acceptable evidence of anything else?
Remember The Atheist Disease is not about not believing in God(that's just being an atheist) The Atheist Disease is the inability to accept ANY EVIDENCE of GOD.
If you talk about the Bible or Quran he will say that they are in no way evidence of God
If you tell him of a Medical Miracle he will say that spontaneus remission is no proof of God
If God came down from heaven and spoke to him directly he would say he was delusional himself.
On the other hand the Atheist with The Atheist Disease will readily accept evidence of almost anything else.
Quote (Stu @ Jan. 25 2010,20:20) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 25 2010,19:53) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 25 2010,19:37) You must understand that Atheism is a disease in which no evidence of God is considered. Many Christians get causght up trying to prove God to atheists by trying to appeal to the atheists “rational” side but the fact is those with the Athesists disease are similar to those with a racial hatred. STU, Kejonn and others like them hae an actual Disease called Atheism, you cannot provide any evidence of God no matter what it is, even if God would personally speak to them they would simply assume they were being delusional at the time.
I recently identified Atheism as a disorder. I actually have to thank STU for helping me to identify this I had maybe a year ago mentioned this on an atheist site but I dismissed it because I though the evidence I had regarding the disease was the result of peer pressure at that site but here it became clear that it is truly a disease.
Hi BD,Is Atheists disease contagious, can I catch it by talking to Kejonn and Stuart?
Ed J
Good question. I think you will find that it is contagious, judging by the number of christian fundamentalists who turn their backs on religion (although that often happens just from realising that scripture does not fit the real world), and especially judging by the fact that 75% of new islamic converts go apostate within 2-3 years. Many of them turn to christianity, so perhaps that is a contagious disease too.I guess whatever the situation, it will not be BD admitting that he has any kind of disease. Except perhaps in the past tense when he too joins those 75%.
If you want to know the relationship between religious belief and disease then you need to know about memes, which are the cultural equivalent of genes, and are passed on from brain to brain. The most successful memes hijack the most brains, and religious memes mimic epidemic disease in their patterns of spread. As atheism is a system of non-belief, as much as it may involve 'catching onto' the idea that all gods are imaginary, it must just as much represent loss of a meme for those who deconvert from a religion.
Did all that make sense to you?
Stuart
First of all what do you know about “memes”?Also religion could not be developed through memes but I know you really don't understand that. “meme” theory would assume some change to occur in these religions but Judaism today is the same as it was and always has been, So is Islam, The basics of Christianity are somewhat in-tact but Memes which Dawkins the attention Hog coined the term was a meme itself that never caught on.
The meme is more about catch phrases and terms things easy to remember like “The Atheist Disease” is the disease where the atheist cannot accept “ANY EVIDENCE” of God
Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 25 2010,20:34) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 25 2010,19:53) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 25 2010,19:37) You must understand that Atheism is a disease in which no evidence of God is considered. Many Christians get causght up trying to prove God to atheists by trying to appeal to the atheists “rational” side but the fact is those with the Athesists disease are similar to those with a racial hatred. STU, Kejonn and others like them hae an actual Disease called Atheism, you cannot provide any evidence of God no matter what it is, even if God would personally speak to them they would simply assume they were being delusional at the time.
I recently identified Atheism as a disorder. I actually have to thank STU for helping me to identify this I had maybe a year ago mentioned this on an atheist site but I dismissed it because I though the evidence I had regarding the disease was the result of peer pressure at that site but here it became clear that it is truly a disease.
Hi BD,Is Atheists disease contagious, can I catch it by talking to Kejonn and Stuart?
Ed J
You can't catch it directly but the disease can undermine your spiritual immune system which can lead to the Atheists Disease.For instance let's assume you are trying to prove to an Atheist that God exists and you start out by saying all the wonderful things you have personally experienced having God in your life. The Atheist will congratulate you on your life being improved but will quickly remind you that you could have made those changes without believing in God.
So, with that being said you want to convince the Atheist more so you start being super polite and loving to the Atheist to show that your accepting and not judging him the Atheist loves this because it gives him space to express his views that undermine your belief and will soon after start asking you why do you believe in any Holy Books especially when there are terrible things in there
Although uncomfortable with the Atheist being critical of the Holy Book you repress your emotions as he calls God all sorts of filthy names and says that God is not worthy to worship.
Then the person will get desperate and try to appeal to the Atheist on other terms such as scientific in which the believer will start trying to talk about irreducible complexity and other types of complex “proofs” the Atheist enjoys this part because the believer has turned from the Larger truth into “needle in the haystack ” type of thinking.
They will start trying to look for one single thing they could say or find that they are convinced if they could find it the Atheist would repent and it would all be worthwhile, This is when the Believer is in the greatest danger but usually is not aware of it because the problem is now like a Fish in water looking for water Before dealing with the Atheist the believer overflowing with the presence of God but after the great distraction of the Atheist the believer finds himself looking desperately for what he already had if he withdraws from the Atheist at this point he may get away with his belief in-tact if not the infection may take hold like it did with Kejonn and next thing you know the person has the Athesim Disease and it's very hard to cure.
You can see some people here that have been exposed to it in varying degrees. When confronting an Atheist you have to take in consideration that he does not know that God is Real and evidence of God to him is meaningless.
In most cases a religious person should simply resist talking to an Atheist as it is written “resist the devil and he will flee from you”
But if you wish to engage you must take the HIGH GROUND which is not being “really nice” but to be really Honest. The Atheist must be told that if no evidence of God is acceptable, what is acceptable evidence of anything else?
Remember The Atheist Disease is not about not believing in God(that's just being an atheist) The Atheist Disease is the inability to accept ANY EVIDENCE of GOD.
If you talk about the Bible or Quran he will say that they are in no way evidence of God
If you tell him of a Medical Miracle he will say that spontaneus remission is no proof of God
If God came down from heaven and spoke to him directly he would say he was delusional himself.
On the other hand the Atheist with The Atheist Disease will readily accept evidence of almost anything else.
I agree
But maybe it could possibly be a bit more than that
Iv seen a person who had a stomach malabsorbtion disorder, undiagnosed, once the correct vitamins were given (high dose especially thiamine, niacin) everything returned for them, they were suffering from the deficiency's and were suffering the diseases of beriberi / wernicks psychosis and pellagra.
God gave humans just what they needed to eat for a healthy body and mind, our soil today is sick, overworked, depleted of nutrients, sometimes cures for things can be found in what God gave us in the beginning which man has now ruined
Rastafarians for eg supposedly use Marujuana for spiritual reasons as its a herb! not that id encourage that, but iv seen amazing things with vitamins.
I also read once im sure it was in 'the gospel of Mary' that the frontal part of the head (brain) is where you 'see' God
Today we have shrinks who use drugs which damage that part of the brain. Evil.
Quote You can't catch it directly but the disease can undermine your spiritual immune system which can lead to the Atheists Disease.
Actually it is the loosening of the intellectual grip of a meme, the cure of a disease, not the beginnings of one (that’s just what the epidemiological modeling says!).Quote For instance let's assume you are trying to prove to an Atheist that God exists and you start out by saying all the wonderful things you have personally experienced having God in your life. The Atheist will congratulate you on your life being improved but will quickly remind you that you could have made those changes without believing in God.
You’re good!Quote So, with that being said you want to convince the Atheist more so you start being super polite and loving to the Atheist to show that your accepting and not judging him the Atheist loves this because it gives him space to express his views that undermine your belief and will soon after start asking you why do you believe in any Holy Books especially when there are terrible things in there
There certainly are!Quote Although uncomfortable with the Atheist being critical of the Holy Book you repress your emotions as he calls God all sorts of filthy names and says that God is not worthy to worship.
…while reminding you that actually there is no god to worry about…Quote Then the person will get desperate and try to appeal to the Atheist on other terms such as scientific in which the believer will start trying to talk about irreducible complexity and other types of complex “proofs” the Atheist enjoys this part because the believer has turned from the Larger truth into “needle in the haystack ” type of thinking.
True, although irreducible complexity has been disproved. It really needs to be no more complicated than this disproof of ID.Quote They will start trying to look for one single thing they could say or find that they are convinced if they could find it the Atheist would repent and it would all be worthwhile, This is when the Believer is in the greatest danger but usually is not aware of it because the problem is now like a Fish in water looking for water Before dealing with the Atheist the believer overflowing with the presence of God but after the great distraction of the Atheist the believer finds himself looking desperately for what he already had if he withdraws from the Atheist at this point he may get away with his belief in-tact if not the infection may take hold like it did with Kejonn and next thing you know the person has the Athesim Disease and it's very hard to cure.
That is not far off, I suppose. I would characterise it slightly differently though: by searching for those things that really show the indelible mark of the creator he begins to see that actually, if he is honest, he has been kidding himself by just accepting what probably someone else told him, that everything is evidence for a creator. The problem now is that, if everything is evidence for a creator then nothing in particular distinguishes that idea from the possibility that none of it is true at all. Actually there is no way to tell. (You can move on from there as many christian fundies do to discover the argument from incompetent design for natural selection, and so forth).Quote You can see some people here that have been exposed to it in varying degrees. When confronting an Atheist you have to take in consideration that he does not know that God is Real and evidence of God to him is meaningless.
No, of course to mindlessly ‘know god is real’ would be to avoid an obvious problem. That of the concept of faith.Quote In most cases a religious person should simply resist talking to an Atheist as it is written “resist the devil and he will flee from you”
…and the christian equivalent is ‘dust off your shoes’, which usually becomes, as you say above, be nice at first…until it appears you are making no headway in your attempts to convert, then just run away.Which is an indictment on Saul of Tarsus, because he is putting up a barrier between people who may otherwise become friends and just agree to differ! But then we knew that christianity was nearly as anti-human as islam anyway, didn’t we.
Quote But if you wish to engage you must take the HIGH GROUND which is not being “really nice” but to be really Honest. The Atheist must be told that if no evidence of God is acceptable, what is acceptable evidence of anything else?
Should Ed be properly honest, though? Should he avoid putting words in the mouth of the atheist that actually the atheist never claimed himself, say a claim that he has not, and in fact cannot test, like for example that no evidence would be good enough?Quote If you talk about the Bible or Quran he will say that they are in no way evidence of God
And he would be right. Citing one religious text should be grounds for failing a school history essay.Quote If you tell him of a Medical Miracle he will say that spontaneus remission is no proof of God
OR, that there has never been anything that you should call a medical miracle without having actually seen what happened at the cellular level.Quote If God came down from heaven and spoke to him directly he would say he was delusional himself.
Interesting. Hadn’t thought about that one. Still, it has never happened, so it’s a bit academic really!Quote On the other hand the Atheist with The Atheist Disease will readily accept evidence of almost anything else.
You mean the concrete, in-your-face evidence that creationists deny? It really is so much easier to be an atheist, isn’t it. You are not compelled to believe in stuff that isn’t really there, only stuff that is.Stuart
Quote (karmarie @ Jan. 25 2010,20:55) Iv seen a person who had a stomach malabsorbtion disorder, undiagnosed, once the correct vitamins were given (high dose especially thiamine, niacin) everything returned for them, they were suffering from the deficiency's and were suffering the diseases of beriberi / wernicks psychosis and pellagra. God gave humans just what they needed to eat for a healthy body and mind, our soil today is sick, overworked, depleted of nutrients, sometimes cures for things can be found in what God gave us in the beginning which man has now ruined
Rastafarians for eg supposedly use Marujuana for spiritual reasons as its a herb! not that id encourage that, but iv seen amazing things with vitamins.
BD's words:The Atheist will congratulate you on your life being improved but will quickly remind you that you could have made those changes without believing in God.
Stuart
Quote (karmarie @ Jan. 25 2010,20:58) I also read once im sure it was in 'the gospel of Mary' that the frontal part of the head (brain) is where you 'see' God Today we have shrinks who use drugs which damage that part of the brain. Evil.
That's true
Quote (Stu @ Jan. 25 2010,21:09) Quote (karmarie @ Jan. 25 2010,20:55) Iv seen a person who had a stomach malabsorbtion disorder, undiagnosed, once the correct vitamins were given (high dose especially thiamine, niacin) everything returned for them, they were suffering from the deficiency's and were suffering the diseases of beriberi / wernicks psychosis and pellagra. God gave humans just what they needed to eat for a healthy body and mind, our soil today is sick, overworked, depleted of nutrients, sometimes cures for things can be found in what God gave us in the beginning which man has now ruined
Rastafarians for eg supposedly use Marujuana for spiritual reasons as its a herb! not that id encourage that, but iv seen amazing things with vitamins.
BD's words:The Atheist will congratulate you on your life being improved but will quickly remind you that you could have made those changes without believing in God.
Stuart
The Atheist will try to convince you that they know something about reality that you don't, this is the basis of The Atheists Disease because to accept ANY evidence of God would put them at great discomfort considering not having experienced God at this point they will feel for the first time the nagging within that something indeed has been missing.Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 25 2010,21:26) Quote (Stu @ Jan. 25 2010,21:09) Quote (karmarie @ Jan. 25 2010,20:55) Iv seen a person who had a stomach malabsorbtion disorder, undiagnosed, once the correct vitamins were given (high dose especially thiamine, niacin) everything returned for them, they were suffering from the deficiency's and were suffering the diseases of beriberi / wernicks psychosis and pellagra. God gave humans just what they needed to eat for a healthy body and mind, our soil today is sick, overworked, depleted of nutrients, sometimes cures for things can be found in what God gave us in the beginning which man has now ruined
Rastafarians for eg supposedly use Marujuana for spiritual reasons as its a herb! not that id encourage that, but iv seen amazing things with vitamins.
BD's words:The Atheist will congratulate you on your life being improved but will quickly remind you that you could have made those changes without believing in God.
Stuart
The Atheist will try to convince you that they know something about reality that you don't, this is the basis of The Atheists Disease because to accept ANY evidence of God would put them at great discomfort considering not having experienced God at this point they will feel for the first time the nagging within that something indeed has been missing.
Sorry, no internal nagging in this atheist.I invite you again to present evidence for your god that is unambiguously a demonstration of your god and no one else's gods, and actually distinguishes objectively between the existence of a god and the absence of gods.
Stuart
Quote (karmarie @ Jan. 25 2010,20:55) I agree But maybe it could possibly be a bit more than that
Iv seen a person who had a stomach malabsorbtion disorder, undiagnosed, once the correct vitamins were given (high dose especially thiamine, niacin) everything returned for them, they were suffering from the deficiency's and were suffering the diseases of beriberi / wernicks psychosis and pellagra.
God gave humans just what they needed to eat for a healthy body and mind, our soil today is sick, overworked, depleted of nutrients, sometimes cures for things can be found in what God gave us in the beginning which man has now ruined
Rastafarians for eg supposedly use Marujuana for spiritual reasons as its a herb! not that id encourage that, but iv seen amazing things with vitamins.
On saying that, care and research needs to be taken with high dose vitamins, some can be dangerous at high doses.BD
Quote First of all what do you know about “memes”?
Wouldn’t you like to know!Quote Also religion could not be developed through memes but I know you really don't understand that. “meme” theory would assume some change to occur in these religions but Judaism today is the same as it was and always has been, So is Islam, The basics of Christianity are somewhat in-tact but Memes which Dawkins the attention Hog coined the term was a meme itself that never caught on.
Tee hee, the pig references just don’t stop do they?! To be fair that one was probably subconscious!Why would the meme need to change? It could, but I don’t think it is a necessity. The memetic spread of infective islam could easily cause a different reaction in different people, the one meme causing different strains of the delusion.
Stuart
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