Karmarie

Participant

BLESSINGS AND PEACE BETWEEN ISAAC AND ISHMAEL

“And He said, ‘Hagar, Sarai’s maid, where have you come from, and where are you going?’ She said, ‘I am fleeing from the presence of my mistress Sarai.’ The Angel of the Lord said to her, ‘Return to your mistress, and submit yourself under her hand.’ Then the Angel of the Lord said to her, ‘I will multiply your descendants exceedingly, so that they shall not be counted for multitude.’ And the Angel of the Lord said to her: ‘Behold, you are with child, and you shall bear a son, and you shall call his name Ishmael, because the Lord has heard your affliction. He shall be a wild man; his hand shall be against every man, and every man’s hand against him. And he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.’ Then she called the name of the Lord who spoke to her, You-Are-the-God-Who-Sees; for she said, ‘Have I also here seen Him who sees me?’ . . . So Hagar bore Abram a son; and Abram named his son, whom Hagar bore, Ishmael” (Genesis 16:8-15).

“In that day there will be an altar to the Lord in the midst of the land of Egypt, and a pillar to the Lord at its border. And it will be for a sign and for a witness to the Lord of hosts in the land of Egypt; for they will cry to the Lord because of the oppressors, and He will send them a Savior and a Mighty One, and He will deliver them. Then the Lord will be known to Egypt, and the Egyptians will know the Lord in that day, and will make sacrifice and offering; yes, they will make a vow to the Lord and perform it. And the Lord will strike Egypt, He will strike and heal it; they will return to the Lord, and He will be entreated by them and heal them. In that day there will be a highway from Egypt to Assyria, and the Assyrians will come into Egypt and the Egyptians into Assyria, and the Egyptians will serve with the Assyrians. In that day Israel will be one of three with Egypt and Assyria—a blessing in the midst of the land, whom the Lord of hosts shall bless, saying, ‘Blessed is Egypt My people, and Assyria the work of My hands, and Israel My inheritance’” (Isaiah 19:19-25).

Theres more on it here which I stumbled across last night
http://www.the-tribulation-network.com/dougkri….pt4.htm

January 11, 2010 at 4:05 am#169576

Participant

Quote (karmarie @ Jan. 11 2010,14:03)

BLESSINGS AND PEACE BETWEEN ISAAC AND ISHMAEL

Theres more on it here which I stumbled across last night
http://www.the-tribulation-network.com/dougkri….pt4.htm

Karmarie,

You are truly a blessing and pure of heart.

ED,

Are you still a witness? If so, look seriously at what Karmarie placed here

January 12, 2010 at 7:24 am#169757

Participant

Quote (princess of the king @ Jan. 11 2010,09:48)

Quote

I also wanted to be a lawyer but stuffed up left school too early and went down the wrong path

a turn in the path does not mean you come to the end, we are to grow learn, we are allowed to continue our path while knowing we have changed direction, quite to our hope find one that is our hearts desire, eager to stay on, one that gives us hope, love, faith ,truth until our path ends.

you speak of revelation, this is quite the topic lately, prophecy is on the forefront with the world today.

discovery of who the almighty creator is, will be quite the sight.

And I apologize for my sudden outburst, suicide is a touchy subject, (a friend), which is why I asked to change the subject.

As im sure it is for many others out there.

January 12, 2010 at 12:44 pm#169773

Participant

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 11 2010,09:40)

Quote (karmarie @ Jan. 11 2010,07:15)

You all need to WAKE UP!

WHO is the beast of revelation?

Is it ISlam

Who is the God Muslims pray to-Satan?

Hi karmarie,

Many people say that 'the quran's' number is 666.
BD does not want this dirty little secret revealed!

http://www.beholdthebeast.com/islamquran_and_666.htm

http://www.walidshoebat.net/article….tm]http

Ed J

It seems BD has a very short term memory.
Here is what he said over a month ago, pretending this would just go away.

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 05 2009,07:17)

Quote

Quote (karmarie @ Dec. 04 2009,08:46)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 04 2009,08:21)

KM,
So they say.
Why does a MOON represent Islam?

The crescent moon and star symbol actually pre-dates Islam by several thousand years.

Hi Karmarie,

What is your view on Muslims saying that 666 is the number of the Quran.

Still trying to mislead others?

why the need to deceive?

666 is not even in the Quran at all and in the Bible it is the number that relates to a man

you are spiraling into a trap.

you don't even have enough honesty to accept the results of your own folly,
that would make you a hypocrite so either accept the truth

stop using it to deceive.

I will expose all your false testimonies.

January 12, 2010 at 6:18 pm#169795

Participant

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 12 2010,23:44)

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 11 2010,09:40)

Quote (karmarie @ Jan. 11 2010,07:15)

You all need to WAKE UP!

WHO is the beast of revelation?

Is it ISlam

Who is the God Muslims pray to-Satan?

Hi karmarie,

Many people say that 'the quran's' number is 666.
BD does not want this dirty little secret revealed!

http://www.beholdthebeast.com/islamquran_and_666.htm

Ed J

It seems BD has a very short term memory.
Here is what he said over a month ago, pretending this would just go away.

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 05 2009,07:17)

Quote

Quote (karmarie @ Dec. 04 2009,08:46)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 04 2009,08:21)

KM,
So they say.
Why does a MOON represent Islam?

The crescent moon and star symbol actually pre-dates Islam by several thousand years.

Hi Karmarie,

What is your view on Muslims saying that 666 is the number of the Quran.

Still trying to mislead others?

why the need to deceive?

666 is not even in the Quran at all and in the Bible it is the number that relates to a man

you are spiraling into a trap.

you don't even have enough honesty to accept the results of your own folly,
that would make you a hypocrite so either accept the truth

stop using it to deceive.

I will expose all your false testimonies.

ED,

What are you talking about?

You do make false statements either on purpose or by way of ignorance.

You brought the math theory here, where it worked to your benefit you celebrated and where you didn't like the way it worked you lamented.

I simply told you, you weren't handling things honestly and objectively.

I used your method and I used it your way, is this right?

A=1 L=12 L=12 A=1 H=8 Allah total=34

G=7 R=18 A=1 C=3 E=5 Grace total=34

Just so everyone understands ED is using general numerology to give the numbers meaning

so in his system of thought Grace and Allah having the same total would mean that there connected.

ED simply uses the value of the alphabet according to its sequence in the alphabet

A B C D E F G
1 2 3 4 5 6 7

H I J K L M N O P
8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16

Q R S T U V W X Y Z
17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26

Then he spends time calculating words and phrases to connect them and give them meaning

Now adding up the word Jesus = 74
Adding up the word Cross = 74

ED would say because the numbers come out the same it is a sort of proof that Jesus and the cross are connected but then when I applied the method and Muhammad = 74

I say wow ED because to me that is further proof that his method works but ED didn't like Muhammad=74 like Jesus because that would mean Islam is sharing the story.

Now remember ED has written a book about all these meanings before I discovered using this method what it would indicate.

ED then says that the term “God the Father” = 117 and psalm 117 is the center of the Bible okay great so far but then ED says that “HOLY SPIRIT”= 151 and I say great ED there is your proof by the HOLY SPIRIT that GOD THE FATHER 117 is ALLAH 34 because they both together =151 the same as the HOLY SPIRIT=151

ED then suddenly goes blind to his own belief system, now had I said God the Father=117 and Grace=34 is 151 it would have been allowed so then ED starts to alter his belief system instead of embrace it for whatever it reveals.

January 12, 2010 at 11:28 pm#169868

Participant

Hi Ed

When Jesus went around teaching, he didnt use numbers to prove anything,

I think God really is beyond numbers or even words! Do you think?

January 13, 2010 at 3:01 am#169879

kejonn

Participant

Are you kidding? Jesus spoke in binary!

January 13, 2010 at 3:59 am#169881

Participant

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 13 2010,05:18)

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 12 2010,23:44)

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 11 2010,09:40)

Quote (karmarie @ Jan. 11 2010,07:15)

You all need to WAKE UP!

WHO is the beast of revelation?

Is it ISlam

Who is the God Muslims pray to-Satan?

Hi karmarie,

Many people say that 'the quran's' number is 666.
BD does not want this dirty little secret revealed!

http://www.beholdthebeast.com/islamquran_and_666.htm

Ed J

It seems BD has a very short term memory.
Here is what he said over a month ago, pretending this would just go away.

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 05 2009,07:17)

Quote

Quote (karmarie @ Dec. 04 2009,08:46)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 04 2009,08:21)

KM,
So they say.
Why does a MOON represent Islam?

The crescent moon and star symbol actually pre-dates Islam by several thousand years.

Hi Karmarie,

What is your view on Muslims saying that 666 is the number of the Quran.

Still trying to mislead others?

why the need to deceive?

666 is not even in the Quran at all and in the Bible it is the number that relates to a man

you are spiraling into a trap.

you don't even have enough honesty to accept the results of your own folly,
that would make you a hypocrite so either accept the truth

stop using it to deceive.

I will expose all your false testimonies.

ED,

What are you talking about?

A B C D E F G
1 2 3 4 5 6 7

H I J K L M N O P
8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16

Q R S T U V W X Y Z
17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26

Now adding up the word Jesus = 74
Adding up the word Cross = 74

because the numbers come out the same it is a sort of proof that Jesus and the cross are connected

to me that is further proof that his method works

the term “God the Father” = 117 and psalm 117 is the center of the Bible okay great

Hi BD,

You have declared me to be “witness” and “The Bible” has also declared me to be witness and numbers make “Three”!
Matt.18:16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more,
that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.

Your self made proclamations mean NOTHING! Numbers can “only” corroborate “Bible Truth”=117!
Numbers don't (by themselves) establish truth, you are deceived, BD.

Gal.1:6-9 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
But though we, or an angel from heaven(Gabriel?), preach any other gospel unto you than
that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again,
If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

2Cor.11:13-15 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light(Gabriel?). Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers
also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

Rev.22:1-3 And he showed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal,
proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. In the midst of the street of it,
and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits,
and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
And there shall be no more 'curse'=66: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it;
and his servants shall serve him(YHVH: not a fake god):

Yes, the system works rather well; your 'perception'=121 is 100% 'antichrist'=121.

Ed J

January 13, 2010 at 5:01 am#169889

Participant

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 13 2010,14:59)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 13 2010,05:18)

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 12 2010,23:44)

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 11 2010,09:40)

Quote (karmarie @ Jan. 11 2010,07:15)

You all need to WAKE UP!

WHO is the beast of revelation?

Is it ISlam

Who is the God Muslims pray to-Satan?

Hi karmarie,

Many people say that 'the quran's' number is 666.
BD does not want this dirty little secret revealed!

http://www.beholdthebeast.com/islamquran_and_666.htm

Ed J

It seems BD has a very short term memory.
Here is what he said over a month ago, pretending this would just go away.

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 05 2009,07:17)

Quote

Quote (karmarie @ Dec. 04 2009,08:46)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 04 2009,08:21)

KM,
So they say.
Why does a MOON represent Islam?

The crescent moon and star symbol actually pre-dates Islam by several thousand years.

Hi Karmarie,

What is your view on Muslims saying that 666 is the number of the Quran.

Still trying to mislead others?

why the need to deceive?

666 is not even in the Quran at all and in the Bible it is the number that relates to a man

you are spiraling into a trap.

you don't even have enough honesty to accept the results of your own folly,
that would make you a hypocrite so either accept the truth

stop using it to deceive.

I will expose all your false testimonies.

ED,

What are you talking about?

A B C D E F G
1 2 3 4 5 6 7

H I J K L M N O P
8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16

Q R S T U V W X Y Z
17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26

Now adding up the word Jesus = 74
Adding up the word Cross = 74

because the numbers come out the same it is a sort of proof that Jesus and the cross are connected

to me that is further proof that his method works

the term “God the Father” = 117 and psalm 117 is the center of the Bible okay great

Hi BD,

Your self made proclamations mean NOTHING! Numbers can “only” corroborate “Bible Truth”=117!
Numbers don't (by themselves) establish truth, you are deceived, BD.

Yes, the system works rather well; your 'perception'=121 is 100% 'antichrist'=121.

Ed J

what now even 66 is a bad number? Are all 6's bad now?

The word “perception” is somehow evil?

I've just been informed by God to let you keep deceiving yourself with your numbers. I hope at some point you worship God as a Spirit and Worship God in truth. For just remember this as the lord guides me to tell you this with the use of these scriptures:

1 Chronicles 21

1And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.

And David's heart smote him after that he had numbered the people. And David said unto the LORD, I have sinned greatly in that I have done: and now, I beseech thee, O LORD, take away the iniquity of thy servant; for I have done very foolishly.
2 Samuel 24:9-11

1 Chronicles 21:22-26 (King James Version)

22Then David said to Ornan, Grant me the place of this threshingfloor, that I may build an altar therein unto the LORD: thou shalt grant it me for the full price: that the plague may be stayed from the people.

23And Ornan said unto David, Take it to thee, and let my lord the king do that which is good in his eyes: lo, I give thee the oxen also for burnt offerings, and the threshing in
struments for wood, and the wheat for the meat offering; I give it all.

24And king David said to Ornan, Nay; but I will verily buy it for the full price: for I will not take that which is thine for the LORD, nor offer burnt offerings without cost.

25So David gave to Ornan for the place six hundred shekels of gold by weight.

26And David built there an altar unto the LORD, and offered burnt offerings and peace offerings, and called upon the LORD; and he answered him from heaven by fire upon the altar of burnt offering.

As for me I must do what God commands:

Deuteronomy 18:13-14 (King James Version)

13Thou shalt be perfect with the LORD thy God.

14For these nations, which thou shalt possess, hearkened unto observers of times, and unto diviners: but as for thee, the LORD thy God hath not suffered thee so to do.

For thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; Let not your prophets and your diviners, that be in the midst of you, deceive you, neither hearken to your dreams which ye cause to be dreamed.
Jeremiah 29:7-9

Then shall the seers be ashamed, and the diviners confounded: yea, they shall all cover their lips; for there is no answer of God.
Micah 3:6-8

So it is best to approach you on terms of God and not on the terms of divination that give no answers nor do they express Love.

May you accept The Guidance of GOD by HIS SPIRIT and not get stuck in divination I pray that you don't go mad as it is written.

Isaiah 44:24-26 (King James Version)

24Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;

25That frustrateth the tokens of the liars, and maketh diviners mad; that turneth wise men backward, and maketh their knowledge foolish;

God Bless you! May you be guided.

January 13, 2010 at 9:59 am#169899

Participant

Hi Ed

My parents went overseas and went on a bus tour not long ago. From all the people on the tour, they made friends with the Muslim family and stuck with them, the parents their age didnt talk english, so the son and daughter did the interpretation between them. The oldest was a Sheik. They have movies of each other, remained friends, ring each other, send things to each other. My parents are Catholics.

My Dad left home in Ireland at a young age , went to Pakistan, ended up in Afghanistan, hitching rides in the back of trucks, he was offered 2 wives and a business, he said no (cause he missed his Mum and decided he wanted to go home! lol). He met alot of people there, most would of been Muslim, memories and stories to tell.

He loves to try to convert EVERYONE to Christianity that he makes friends with, he does it in a kind, serious but humourous way. Allways laughing. My mums just nice to everybody.

I think they have it pretty right. Iv seen alot on this forum, on the net and in the world, do any of us really have all the truth? Every individual thinks THEY do, but we cant all be right, Every day is learning, changing, if we trust in God he will lead us the right way. We are all only human, were all on our own paths, and sometimes you may meet someone along the path who says something that means something, gets us thinking,

January 13, 2010 at 9:32 pm#169959

Stu

Participant

Does your dad also agree that “every individual thinks THEY do, but we cant all be right..”?

So does he allow others to try and convert him on the off-chance that he is wrong and they are right?

Stuart

January 13, 2010 at 11:48 pm#169994

Participant

Quote (Stu @ Jan. 14 2010,08:32)

Does your dad also agree that “every individual thinks THEY do, but we cant all be right..”?

So does he allow others to try and convert him on the off-chance that he is wrong and they are right?

Stuart

That was me who posted that not Ed,

And yes he allways reflects on what others say. My Mother has to put up with listening to it.

January 13, 2010 at 11:51 pm#169997

Participant

So- why dont you (Ed) and you (Bod) get into a conversation, as the friends you are. With the rules- no Quran, no numbers, or take it up in debates,

January 14, 2010 at 2:34 am#170042

Participant

Quote (karmarie @ Jan. 14 2010,10:51)

So- why dont you (Ed) and you (Bod) get into a conversation, as the friends you are. With the rules- no Quran, no numbers, or take it up in debates,

I already invited ED to a debate but he didn't attend

January 14, 2010 at 3:19 am#170048

Participant

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 13 2010,16:01)

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 13 2010,14:59)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 13 2010,05:18)

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 12 2010,23:44)

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 11 2010,09:40)

Quote (karmarie @ Jan. 11 2010,07:15)

You all need to WAKE UP!

WHO is the beast of revelation?

Is it ISlam

Who is the God Muslims pray to-Satan?

Hi karmarie,

Many people say that 'the quran's' number is 666.
BD does not want this dirty little secret revealed!

http://www.beholdthebeast.com/islamquran_and_666.htm

Ed J

It seems BD has a very short term memory.
Here is what he said over a month ago, pretending this would just go away.

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 05 2009,07:17)

Quote

Quote (karmarie @ Dec. 04 2009,08:46)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 04 2009,08:21)

KM,
So they say.
Why does a MOON represent Islam?

The crescent moon and star symbol actually pre-dates Islam by several thousand years.

Hi Karmarie,

What is your view on Muslims saying that 666 is the number of the Quran.

Still trying to mislead others?

why the need to deceive?

666 is not even in the Quran at all and in the Bible it is the number that relates to a man

you are spiraling into a trap.

you don't even have enough honesty to accept the results of your own folly,
that would make you a hypocrite so either accept the truth

stop using it to deceive.

I will expose all your false testimonies.

ED,

What are you talking about?

A B C D E F G
1 2 3 4 5 6 7

H I J K L M N O P
8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16

Q R S T U V W X Y Z
17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26

Now adding up the word Jesus = 74
Adding up the word Cross = 74

because the numbers come out the same it is a sort of proof that Jesus and the cross are connected

to me that is further proof that his method works

the term “God the Father” = 117 and psalm 117 is the center of the Bible okay great

Hi BD,

Your self made proclamations mean NOTHING! Numbers can “only” corroborate “Bible Truth”=117!
Numbers don't (by themselves) establish truth, you are deceived, BD.

Yes, the system works rather well; your 'perception'=121 is 100% 'antichrist'=121.

Ed J

what now even 66 is a bad number? Are all 6's bad now?

The word “perception” is somehow evil?

I've just been informed by God to let you keep deceiving yourself with your numbers. I hope at some point you worship God as a Spirit and Worship God in truth. For just remember this as the lord guides me to tell you this with the use of these scriptures:

1 Chronicles 21

1And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.

1 Chronicles 21:22-26 (King James Version)

22Then David said to Ornan, Grant me the place of this threshingfloor, that I may build an altar therein unto the LORD: thou s
halt grant it me for the full price: that the plague may be stayed from the people.

23And Ornan said unto David, Take it to thee, and let my lord the king do that which is good in his eyes: lo, I give thee the oxen also for burnt offerings, and the threshing instruments for wood, and the wheat for the meat offering; I give it all.

24And king David said to Ornan, Nay; but I will verily buy it for the full price: for I will not take that which is thine for the LORD, nor offer burnt offerings without cost.

25So David gave to Ornan for the place six hundred shekels of gold by weight.

26And David built there an altar unto the LORD, and offered burnt offerings and peace offerings, and called upon the LORD; and he answered him from heaven by fire upon the altar of burnt offering.

As for me I must do what God commands:

Deuteronomy 18:13-14 (King James Version)

13Thou shalt be perfect with the LORD thy God.

14For these nations, which thou shalt possess, hearkened unto observers of times, and unto diviners: but as for thee, the LORD thy God hath not suffered thee so to do.

Then shall the seers be ashamed, and the diviners confounded: yea, they shall all cover their lips; for there is no answer of God.
Micah 3:6-8

So it is best to approach you on terms of God and not on the terms of divination that give no answers nor do they express Love.

May you accept The Guidance of GOD by HIS SPIRIT and not get stuck in divination I pray that you don't go mad as it is written.

Isaiah 44:24-26 (King James Version)

24Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;

25That frustrateth the tokens of the liars, and maketh diviners mad; that turneth wise men backward, and maketh their knowledge foolish;

God Bless you! May you be guided.

Hi BD,

My goal is only to expose “Truth”, if you choose to believe 'false truth',
I will not dispute with you over your choice to not believe “Truth”.

My attempt is merely to show you there is an alternative to 'false truth'.

God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

January 14, 2010 at 3:46 am#170053

Participant

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 14 2010,14:19)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 13 2010,16:01)

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 13 2010,14:59)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 13 2010,05:18)

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 12 2010,23:44)

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 11 2010,09:40)

Quote (karmarie @ Jan. 11 2010,07:15)

You all need to WAKE UP!

WHO is the beast of revelation?

Is it ISlam

Who is the God Muslims pray to-Satan?

Hi karmarie,

Many people say that 'the quran's' number is 666.
BD does not want this dirty little secret revealed!

http://www.beholdthebeast.com/islamquran_and_666.htm

Ed J

It seems BD has a very short term memory.
Here is what he said over a month ago, pretending this would just go away.

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 05 2009,07:17)

Quote

Quote (karmarie @ Dec. 04 2009,08:46)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 04 2009,08:21)

KM,
So they say.
Why does a MOON represent Islam?

The crescent moon and star symbol actually pre-dates Islam by several thousand years.

Hi Karmarie,

What is your view on Muslims saying that 666 is the number of the Quran.

Still trying to mislead others?

why the need to deceive?

666 is not even in the Quran at all and in the Bible it is the number that relates to a man

you are spiraling into a trap.

you don't even have enough honesty to accept the results of your own folly,
that would make you a hypocrite so either accept the truth

stop using it to deceive.

I will expose all your false testimonies.

ED,

What are you talking about?

A B C D E F G
1 2 3 4 5 6 7

H I J K L M N O P
8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16

Q R S T U V W X Y Z
17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26

Now adding up the word Jesus = 74
Adding up the word Cross = 74

because the numbers come out the same it is a sort of proof that Jesus and the cross are connected

to me that is further proof that his method works

the term “God the Father” = 117 and psalm 117 is the center of the Bible okay great

Hi BD,

Your self made proclamations mean NOTHING! Numbers can “only” corroborate “Bible Truth”=117!
Numbers don't (by themselves) establish truth, you are deceived, BD.

Yes, the system works rather well; your 'perception'=121 is 100% 'antichrist'=121.

Ed J

what now even 66 is a bad number? Are all 6's bad now?

The word “perception” is somehow evil?

1 Chronicles 21

1And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.

1 Chronicles 21:22-26 (King James Version)

23And Ornan said unto David, Take it to thee, and let my lord the king do that which is good in his eyes: lo, I give thee the oxen also for burnt offerings, and the threshing instruments for wood, and the wheat for the meat offering; I give it all.

24And king David said to Ornan, Nay; but I will verily buy it for the full price: for I will not take that which is thine for the LORD, nor offer burnt offerings without cost.

25So David gave to Ornan for the place six hundred shekels of gold by weight.

26And David built there an altar unto the LORD, and offered burnt offerings and peace offerings, and called upon the LORD; and he answered him from heaven by fire upon the altar of burnt offering.

As for me I must do what God commands:

Deuteronomy 18:13-14 (King James Version)

13Thou shalt be perfect with the LORD thy God.

14For these nations, which thou shalt possess, hearkened unto observers of times, and unto diviners: but as for thee, the LORD thy God hath not suffered thee so to do.

Then shall the seers be ashamed, and the diviners confounded: yea, they shall all cover their lips; for there is no answer of God.
Micah 3:6-8

So it is best to approach you on terms of God and not on the terms of divination that give no answers nor do they express Love.

May you accept The Guidance of GOD by HIS SPIRIT and not get stuck in divination I pray that you don't go mad as it is written.

Isaiah 44:24-26 (King James Version)

24Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;

25That frustrateth the tokens of the liars, and maketh diviners mad; that turneth wise men backward, and maketh their knowledge foolish;

God Bless you! May you be guided.

Hi BD,

My goal is only to expose “Truth”, if you choose to believe 'false truth',
I will not dispute with you over your choice to not believe “Truth”.

My attempt is merely to show you there is an alternative to 'false truth'.

God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

You were provoked to count and it was exciting and seductive to you but God did not suffer you to do such.

We are led by The HOLY SPIRIT not by the conjurings of the pen and the manipulation of the mind.

For God said “Be still and know that I am God”

To acknowledge the truth you have to acknowledge all of the truth

January 14, 2010 at 4:04 am#170055

Stu

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Quote (karmarie @ Jan. 14 2010,10:48)

Quote (Stu @ Jan. 14 2010,08:32)

Does your dad also agree that “every individual thinks THEY do, but we cant all be right..”?

So does he allow others to try and convert him on the off-chance that he is wrong and they are right?

Stuart

That was me who posted that not Ed,

And yes he allways reflects on what others say. My Mother has to put up with listening to it.

My apologies Karmarie, I have no idea why I wrote Ed at the top.

I don't have Ed on the brain, I promise!

Stuart

January 14, 2010 at 8:30 am#170074

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Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 14 2010,14:46)

1) You were provoked to count and it was exciting and seductive to you but God did not suffer you to do such.

2) We are led by The HOLY SPIRIT not by the conjurings of the pen and the manipulation of the mind.

3) For God said “Be still and know that I am God“

4) To acknowledge the truth you have to acknowledge all of the truth

Hi BD,

1) Speak for yourself 'big boy', you DON”T get to determine right and wrong for me.
Who is it that is lying to you, telling you that you can (falsely) determine my right and wrong, satan?
It should be crystal clear to everybody here by now that these words of yours really apply to you. (Psalm 18:25-27)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 06 2010,12:56)

Ed is totally blind by his ambition for self-importance.

2) It would be nice if the “WE” part were true, but first you must be set free from satan's manipulation of your mind. (John 8:32)

3) Prob.3:33 The 'curse'=66 of the LORD is in the house of the wicked (AKJV Gal.1:5-9 / 2Cor.11:13-15): but he blesseth the habitation of the just. (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-14)
you illustrate 'the problem'=114 here in the misquoted Bible verse. Here is what the real Psalm 46:10 says…
Psalm 46:10 Be still, and know that “I” God: I will be exalted among the heathen, I will be exalted in the earth. (AKJV Psalm 83:18)

'The devil's trick'; 'i am'! (AKJV Psalm 102:11-13)

AKJV Mark 13:6: For many(like BD) shall come in my(Christ's) name
(claiming to be a Christian), saying, I am; and shall deceive many.

AKJV Romans 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual:
but I am carnal, sold under sin.

AKJV Romans 8:6: For to be carnally minded is death;
but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

The AKJV bible was completed and in the public's hands in 1611.
The AKJV bible is going to bring about satan's final defeat!

AKJV John 16:11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world (i am=23) is judged.
The prince of this world is 'i am'(satan; the son of perdition).

AKJV 2Thess.2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come,
except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
AKJV 2Thess.2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God=63(YHVH=63),
or that is worshipped; so that he as (i am)God sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself that he(satan) is God.

AKJV 2Thess.2:8-9 And then shall that Wicked (i am) be revealed,
whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth (Rev.19:15),
and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Even him, whose coming
is after the working of Satan (Mark 13:6) with all power and signs and lying wonders

4) You need to loose the 'antichrist'=121 'perception'=121, for you to retain “ANY” “Bible Truth”=117.
Only then will you be in a position to receive true “Bible Perception”=151!

Witnessing to the world in behalf of…
117=יהוה האלהים YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm (JEHOVAH GOD)! (Psalm 45:17)
Ed J (Daniel 11:18 / Hebrews 11:34 / Isaiah 54:17)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

January 14, 2010 at 9:20 am#170078

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Quote (Stu @ Jan. 14 2010,15:04)

Quote (karmarie @ Jan. 14 2010,10:48)

Quote (Stu @ Jan. 14 2010,08:32)

Does your dad also agree that “every individual thinks THEY do, but we cant all be right..”?

So does he allow others to try and convert him on the off-chance that he is wrong and they are right?

Stuart

That was me who posted that not Ed,

And yes he allways reflects on what others say. My Mother has to put up with listening to it.

My apologies Karmarie, I have no idea why I wrote Ed at the top.

I don't have Ed on the brain, I promise!

Stuart

Lol – ok

January 14, 2010 at 9:27 am#170079