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Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 07 2010,20:20) Quote (Stu @ Jan. 07 2010,15:24) Ed like the way you take nonsense
both of your gods are unspeakableDo I sound any closer to worshipping either of your gods?
Stuart
Hi Stuart,Unspeakable? Then why do you continue to speak of God.
Where do you think all ethics come from?
First you must realize He exists, before you can possibly be in position to worship.
Perhaps you need to hit rock bottom first? Everything in life is choice.
My God can arrange that for you if that is your choice? (Luke 13:5)
I suggest you make the right choice, but the choice is yours to make.Ed J
So you are going to set your god on me, causing me to 'hit rock bottom' in order that I then realise 'his' existence?Your god is more petulant and uncaring than I realised.
You have no answer to the question:
I see no god. What god?
If you can get past that one, then I think you have no good argument for it being YOUR god. Have you rejected Jupiter? On what grounds do YOU reject the pantheon of Roman gods and then expect me not to reject your god-concept?
Isn't that hypocrisy?
Stuart
Quote (Stu @ Jan. 07 2010,21:43) I see no god. What god? Stuart
Hi Stuart,2Timothy 2:13 If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.
I will be using Geometry next (visible) to illustrate God (the invisible),
in much the same way I have used Gematria(Theomatics).1Timothy 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust,
avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:Geometry is yet another Science, much like mathematics(Theomatics also visible).
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Stu @ Jan. 07 2010,21:43) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 07 2010,20:20) Quote (Stu @ Jan. 07 2010,15:24) Ed like the way you take nonsense
both of your gods are unspeakableDo I sound any closer to worshipping either of your gods?
Stuart
Hi Stuart,Unspeakable? Then why do you continue to speak of God.
Where do you think all ethics come from?
First you must realize He exists, before you can possibly be in position to worship.
Perhaps you need to hit rock bottom first? Everything in life is choice.
My God can arrange that for you if that is your choice? (Luke 13:5)
I suggest you make the right choice, but the choice is yours to make.Ed J
So you are going to set your god on me, causing me to 'hit rock bottom' in order that I then realise 'his' existence?Your god is more petulant and uncaring than I realised.
You have no answer to the question:
I see no god. What god?
If you can get past that one, then I think you have no good argument for it being YOUR god. Have you rejected Jupiter? On what grounds do YOU reject the pantheon of Roman gods and then expect me not to reject your god-concept?
Isn't that hypocrisy?
Stuart
One minute ED says you are close to believing in God and the next minute he is “Cursing” you, What a hypocrite.Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 07 2010,19:58) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 07 2010,13:56) You are deep in Sin brother that verse you Quoted was about Leviathan 34He beholdeth all high things: he is a king over all the children of pride.
Hi BD1John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
What law have I broken that you would accuse me of sin?Job 41:34…(satan) is a king over all the children of pride.
Why do you allow satan to be your god? 34=guess who?!
Your heart is so filled with pride that you now begin to make false accusations against me.
satan sure does have a tight grip on you my friend! Loose the 'book of fraud'.Your need to abandon your god(satan) BD and turn to My God the living God(HolySpirit)!
Isaiah 27:1 In that day the LORD with his sore and great and strong sword (Rev.19:15)
shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent;
and he shall slay the dragon(Rev.12:3) that is in the sea. (Rev.17:15 / 2Thess.2:8-10)Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword,
piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow,
and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.Rev.19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations… (Psalm 110:2)
Ed,Can you give me the verse that says God will punish Leviathan? Of course not, because you like to make things up.
How do you expect anyone to take you seriously when you make things up. Seriously, you constantly are being dishonest.
Guess who=34? Why don't you use your master method? Satan=55, Devil=52, Lucifer=74 so Guess who = 34? and how does it correlate to any of the above.
Grace=34 and Allah=34
Is that true? Grace=34 and ALLAH=34?
Stop being evil and stop making false accusations there are no gods you believe in gods and therefor cannot be a monotheist.
To me talking to you and STU is the same, you both hate God, STU, knows why he hates God and you hate God and don't even know you are hating God.
What does ALLAH do that makes you think HE is a different God?
How is ALLAH a different God than YHVH? They are the same so don't be ignorant in this matter you should truly repent for mocking God.
Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 08 2010,09:05) Quote (Stu @ Jan. 07 2010,21:43) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 07 2010,20:20) Quote (Stu @ Jan. 07 2010,15:24) Ed like the way you take nonsense
both of your gods are unspeakableDo I sound any closer to worshipping either of your gods?
Stuart
Hi Stuart,Unspeakable? Then why do you continue to speak of God.
Where do you think all ethics come from?
First you must realize He exists, before you can possibly be in position to worship.
Perhaps you need to hit rock bottom first? Everything in life is choice.
My God can arrange that for you if that is your choice? (Luke 13:5)
I suggest you make the right choice, but the choice is yours to make.Ed J
So you are going to set your god on me, causing me to 'hit rock bottom' in order that I then realise 'his' existence?Your god is more petulant and uncaring than I realised.
You have no answer to the question:
I see no god. What god?
If you can get past that one, then I think you have no good argument for it being YOUR god. Have you rejected Jupiter? On what grounds do YOU reject the pantheon of Roman gods and then expect me not to reject your god-concept?
Isn't that hypocrisy?
Stuart
One minute ED says you are close to believing in God and the next minute he is “Cursing” you, What a hypocrite.
Hi BD,I was merely pointing out the obvious fact that most people have to hit rock bottom before they will turn to God.
It's amazing how you continuously 'spin' my words attempting to find fault in me?
This is the same trouble Stuart faces in communicating with you in your representation of your god.
You wonder why his words are harsh towards you, name calling, accusations, belittlement; look in the mirror?The harshest words he has said to me so far I have italicized.
And that is “only” because 'your god' caused him to jump to the same 'wrong' conclusion you did?Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 08 2010,11:51) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 08 2010,09:05) Quote (Stu @ Jan. 07 2010,21:43) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 07 2010,20:20) Quote (Stu @ Jan. 07 2010,15:24) Ed like the way you take nonsense
both of your gods are unspeakableDo I sound any closer to worshipping either of your gods?
Stuart
Hi Stuart,Unspeakable? Then why do you continue to speak of God.
Where do you think all ethics come from?
First you must realize He exists, before you can possibly be in position to worship.
Perhaps you need to hit rock bottom first? Everything in life is choice.
My God can arrange that for you if that is your choice? (Luke 13:5)
I suggest you make the right choice, but the choice is yours to make.Ed J
So you are going to set your god on me, causing me to 'hit rock bottom' in order that I then realise 'his' existence?Your god is more petulant and uncaring than I realised.
You have no answer to the question:
I see no god. What god?
If you can get past that one, then I think you have no good argument for it being YOUR god. Have you rejected Jupiter? On what grounds do YOU reject the pantheon of Roman gods and then expect me not to reject your god-concept?
Isn't that hypocrisy?
Stuart
One minute ED says you are close to believing in God and the next minute he is “Cursing” you, What a hypocrite.
Hi BD,I was merely pointing out the obvious fact that most people have to hit rock bottom before they will turn to God.
It's amazing how you continuously 'spin' my words attempting to find fault in me?
This is the same trouble Stuart faces in communicating with you in your representation of your god.
You wonder why his words are harsh towards you, name calling, accusations, belittlement; look in the mirror?The harshest words he has said to me so far I have italicized.
And that is “only” because 'your god' caused him to jump to the same 'wrong' conclusion you did?
There are no “gods” there is only God and no one “needs” to hit rock bottom to find HIM.I don't attempt to find fault in you, there is fault in you believeing in “gods”.
You keep trying to seduce and hypnotize Stuart to believe, even at the expense of your integrity I have no such motivation. He can believe or not believe because in the end he will either be right or be wrong to his own detriment so why lie to him?
God does not love the unbelievers but if they repent and come to God then God will love them, How is it you can tell Non-believers in one breath that God loves them and then in the next breath tell them that if they continue their disbelief eventually they will end up in Hell?
If they end up in hell obviously God wouldn't be expressing love to them so why lie? Hell is a place of painful punishment.
The God that you seem to think you own but I claim as The Only God, Tell me, Is YHVH have a Hell in which people will be punished?
Has YHVH in the past destroyed towns, and ordered the killing of men, women, and infants(According to the scriptures)?
Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 08 2010,07:28) Quote (Stu @ Jan. 07 2010,21:43) I see no god. What god? Stuart
Hi Stuart,2Timothy 2:13 If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.
I will be using Geometry next (visible) to illustrate God (the invisible),
in much the same way I have used Gematria(Theomatics).1Timothy 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust,
avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:Geometry is yet another Science, much like mathematics(Theomatics also visible).
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
You try to convince me with the vain babblings of Saul of Tarsus? (or in the case of Timothy more likely the vain babblings of someone else!)Would you read the Watchtower magazine for an appraisal of the pros and cons of being a JW?? Of course not, you read the writings of people whose job it is to discuss fairly and whose reputation depends on their impartiality. That is not Paul, I'm afraid, nor John, George or Ringo either.
I still see no god. Are you discussing Mars, the god of war? I really can't tell what difference there is. They all seem to be completely imaginary.
Stuart
Quote (Stu @ Jan. 08 2010,13:15) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 08 2010,07:28) Quote (Stu @ Jan. 07 2010,21:43) I see no god. What god? Stuart
Hi Stuart,2Timothy 2:13 If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.
I will be using Geometry next (visible) to illustrate God (the invisible),
in much the same way I have used Gematria(Theomatics).1Timothy 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust,
avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:Geometry is yet another Science, much like mathematics(Theomatics also visible).
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
You try to convince me with the vain babblings of Saul of Tarsus? (or in the case of Timothy more likely the vain babblings of someone else!)Would you read the Watchtower magazine for an appraisal of the pros and cons of being a JW?? Of course not, you read the writings of people whose job it is to discuss fairly and whose reputation depends on their impartiality. That is not Paul, I'm afraid, nor John, George or Ringo either.
I still see no god. Are you discussing Mars, the god of war? I really can't tell what difference there is. They all seem to be completely imaginary.
Stuart
There are no “gods”He is the Living (One): there is no god but He: Call upon Him, giving Him sincere devotion. Praise be to allah, Lord of the worlds!
( سورة غافر , Ghafir, Chapter #40, Verse #65)Praise be to allah, the Cherisher and Sustainer of the worlds;
( سورة الفاتحة , Al-Fatiha, Chapter #1, Verse #2)Your Guardian-Lord is allah, Who created the heavens and the earth in six days, and is firmly established on the throne (of authority): He draweth the night as a veil o'er the day, each seeking the other in rapid succession: He created the sun, the moon, and the stars, (all) governed by laws under His command. Is it not His to create and to govern? Blessed be allah, the Cherisher and Sustainer of the worlds!
( سورة الأعراف , Al-Araf, Chapter #7, Verse #54)It is allah Who has made for you the earth as a resting place, and the sky as a canopy, and has given you shape- and made your shapes beautiful,- and has provided for you Sustenance, of things pure and good;- such is allah your Lord. So Glory to allah, the Lord of the worlds!
( سورة غافر , Ghafir, Chapter #40, Verse #64)Quote There are no “gods” I know! That is what I was saying!
Actually I was very careful in that last post to write the singular “god”. There IS no GOD.
Did you spot that?
Stuart
Quote (Stu @ Jan. 08 2010,13:15) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 08 2010,07:28) Quote (Stu @ Jan. 07 2010,21:43) I see no god. What god? Stuart
Hi Stuart,2Timothy 2:13 If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.
I will be using Geometry next (visible) to illustrate God (the invisible),
in much the same way I have used Gematria(Theomatics).1Timothy 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust,
avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:Geometry is yet another Science, much like mathematics(Theomatics also visible).
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
You try to convince me with the vain babblings of Saul of Tarsus? (or in the case of Timothy more likely the vain babblings of someone else!)Would you read the Watchtower magazine for an appraisal of the pros and cons of being a JW?? Of course not, you read the writings of people whose job it is to discuss fairly and whose reputation depends on their impartiality. That is not Paul, I'm afraid, nor John, George or Ringo either.
I still see no god. Are you discussing Mars, the god of war? I really can't tell what difference there is. They all seem to be completely imaginary.
Stuart
Hi Stuart,You would read the Watchtower magazine if you wanted a fair appraisal of the pros and cons of the JW Orginazation.
Debunkers never portray things accurately. It would be like people coming to this forum
to learn about me and My God from Stuart based on is his (fair?) prejudiced biased anti-God views.
And if you wanted to learn about the Beatles, their writings would be best about their band.I know that is how it seems to be for you. That is why I spend a considerable amount
of my time engaging you on the topic of God. I have taken a different approach, The Sciences.God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 08 2010,09:22) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 07 2010,19:58) Isaiah 27:1 In that day the LORD with his sore and great and strong sword (Rev.19:15)
shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent;
and he shall slay the dragon(Rev.12:3) that is in the sea. (Rev.17:15 / 2Thess.2:8-10)
Ed,1) Can you give me the verse that says God will punish Leviathan? Of course not, because you like to make things up.
2) How is ALLAH a different God than YHVH?
3) Stop being evil and stop making false accusations there are no gods
4) To me talking to you and STU is the same, you both hate God, STU, knows why he hates God and you hate God and don't even know you are hating God.
Hi BD,
1) The verse is already posted (Quote: Ed J @ Jan. 07 2010,19:58) can you not see it?
2)
Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 06 2010,12:56) Ed is totally blind by his ambition for self-importance. Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 08 2010,09:22) you constantly are being dishonest. Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 07 2010,13:56) You are deep in Sin Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 08 2010,09:22) you hate God Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 06 2010,04:10) You should repent bearing False Witness…(How evil) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 02 2010,16:17) you will never be fit to be a witness Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 08 2010,12:03) why lie to him? Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 05 2010,12:59) you are living in delusion Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 08 2010,09:05) What a hypocrite. Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 07 2010,13:56) you are truly lost Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 04 2010,04:51) you will be kept in the dark. 3)
Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 05 2010,19:55) Satan's=74 so what do you say about that? Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 05 2010,12:59) Satan is the enemy of man 4)
Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 31 2009,16:25) STU, ED knows your depressed and is really reaching out to you, I suggest you accept his help.
At least read his book.
Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 31 2009,16:00) Exactly! You are in the Dark and ED is helping you to start to see some Light at the end of your depressive tunnel. Atheists love Math they believe it proves things and of course it does so you try to shun ED's very provocative proofs but really it is breaking you down if you are honest about it.
I just wish ED would except the whole theory
Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 31 2009,15:33) ED, You are Stuarts greatest hope because he thinks just like you.
He is stubborn like you but you are starting to make him believe, IMO
Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 30 2009,11:46) I wouldn't tell you or anybody that they don't have the Spirit of God in them Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 05 2010,12:59) I really think that you are witnessing the real and it is beautiful Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 06 2010,22:32) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 02 2010,16:17) Muhammad is Lord=151 Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 06 2010,04:10) Muhammad is not a “lord”
You are now mirroring the type of inconsistencies found in the 'book of fraud'! (2Cor.11:14 / Gal.1:8)
Babylon means confusion: confusion, confusion, confusion!Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 05 2010,12:59) I understand your confusion but that is why we crossed paths.
You see your problem reflected back at you from My God in Me!
Psalm 18:25-27 With the merciful thou(YHVH) will show thyself merciful;
with an upright man thou will show thyself upright; With the pure thou will show thyself pure;
and with the froward thou will show thyself froward. For thou wilt save the afflicted people;
but wilt bring down (BD's prideful) high looks (Job:41:34).Your need to abandon your god(satan) and turn to the living God(HolySpirit)!
The “Divine=63” “Deity=63” of “The Bible=63” is “YHVH=63”!
Rev.21:2 And I John saw the “holy city“=117, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of [heaven.net.nz],
prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying,
Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people,
and God himself=117 shall be with them, and be their [YHVH=63]. (Rev. 21:22-22:7 / Rev.16:15 / 2Peter 3:10)Isaiah 49:16 Behold, I(Jesus Christ) have graven thee upon
the palms of my hands; thy walls (HolyCity=117) are continually before me.PSALM 117 “is” [The Bible's Center], AND the “[smallest chapter]” of the [LARGEST BOOK]!
Witnessing to the world in behalf of…
117=יהוה האלהים YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm (Psalm 45:17)
Ed J (Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Stu @ Jan. 07 2010,21:49) Every religionist's God is different. If your God is like Einstein's, a metaphor for nature, a Spinoza's God of gentle mockery,
then I would say it almost certainly existed as a concept in the brains of both Einstein and Spinoza, and as such did exist.Stuart
Hi Stuart,
According to your logic: you should also say the God of Ed J also exists as well, but 'only' in the mind (falsely) of Ed J of course.
I have presented many anomalies that allow you(Stuart) to see what the mind of Ed J knows.
And I will also be incorporating the Science of Gemology into this rock solid structure as well.
It can be illustrated as an “Intelligent Design” that was orchestrated by an Higher Intelligence not bound by time!Isaiah 55:7-9 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts:
and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God,
for he will abundantly pardon. For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are
your ways my ways, saith the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEd J,
I just cant believe half of what you actually get away with!- (Im speaking for myself and how I usually act), but what you say is allmost hypnotising- what IS it with you
Quote (karmarie @ Jan. 08 2010,22:43) Ed J, I just cant believe half of what you actually get away with!- (Im speaking for myself and how I usually act), but what you say is allmost hypnotising- what IS it with you
Hi karmarie,I'll tone it down a little; OK?
Ed J
Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 08 2010,21:17) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 06 2010,12:56) Ed is totally blind by his ambition for self-importance. Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 08 2010,09:22) you constantly are being dishonest. Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 07 2010,13:56) You are deep in Sin Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 08 2010,09:22) you hate God Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 06 2010,04:10) You should repent bearing False Witness…(How evil) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 02 2010,16:17) you will never be fit to be a witness Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 08 2010,12:03) why lie to him? Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 05 2010,12:59) you are living in delusion Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 08 2010,09:05) What a hypocrite. Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 07 2010,13:56) you are truly lost Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 04 2010,04:51) you will be kept in the dark.
BD is in broadcast mode. People here may be gullible enough to believe in Imaginary Friends, but I don't think many of them are taken in by the fatuous assertions he makes that are completely unsupported by facts.Reading many of BD's posts is like watching islamists talk past zionists on Al Jazeera.
Stuart
Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 08 2010,20:36) Hi Stuart, You would read the Watchtower magazine if you wanted a fair appraisal of the pros and cons of the JW Orginazation.
Debunkers never portray things accurately. It would be like people coming to this forum
to learn about me and My God from Stuart based on is his (fair?) prejudiced biased anti-God views.
And if you wanted to learn about the Beatles, their writings would be best about their band.I know that is how it seems to be for you. That is why I spend a considerable amount
of my time engaging you on the topic of God. I have taken a different approach, The Sciences.God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
You don't really believe this do you? How gullible could you be??Stuart
Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 09 2009,23:26) I Love you and May God bless you always and forever. This is my last Post(God willing)
Either God was not willing, or you ignored him
Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 08 2010,23:16) Quote (karmarie @ Jan. 08 2010,22:43) Ed J, I just cant believe half of what you actually get away with!- (Im speaking for myself and how I usually act), but what you say is allmost hypnotising- what IS it with you
Hi karmarie,I'll tone it down a little; OK?
Ed J
Hi Ed,
I didnt mean you need to tone it down.. I meant it as a compliment, both you and Bod seem to be on the same level but both in different directions its interesting
Quote (Stu @ Jan. 08 2010,16:10) Quote There are no “gods” I know! That is what I was saying!
Actually I was very careful in that last post to write the singular “god”. There IS no GOD.
Did you spot that?
Stuart
The fact is STU if you say there is no God then why do you ask about other “gods” are you confused?If you insist on speaking against “gods” it proves you believe that there are “gods” not to believe in and that would mean you are denying the existence of God from a base of ignorance the same as ED denying that his God is my God as if the God he believes in is limited to who believes in HIM.
WE all have the same God whether you are an atheist, Polytheist or Pure Monotheist.
So speaking against gods is the same thing as believing in gods.
Now your first step to curing your own error is to only refer to God in the singular always.
Quote (kejonn @ Jan. 09 2010,02:00) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 09 2009,23:26) I Love you and May God bless you always and forever. This is my last Post(God willing)
Either God was not willing, or you ignored him
I don't ignore God and hence it is not my will but the will of God hence the term “God willing”I realized that the sceptical position is the position of those I am addressing therefore my label they applied to me really applies to those I address.
So, No I never ignore God.
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