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- December 31, 2009 at 3:18 am#167376Ed JParticipant
Quote (Stu @ Dec. 31 2009,12:20) Ed's proof of God in a few paragraphs.
Stuart
Hi Stuart,No mention was made by me: to post that information on the internet, that which I offered for you to read.
Since you seem to be a man of honor, I would hope you would honor my request.
That is what I meant, assuming you would tell me where to go to read what you want me to read,
rather than posting that on the internet as well.Keep in mind here is the previous transcription…
Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 30 2009,22:10) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 30 2009,21:39) Actually why should any of us have to ask? Why should this God of yours not be obvious to everyone? Stuart
Hi Stuart,I explain that very question in chapter 8 of the free e-book,
e-mail me and I will send it an attachment on PDF.
It is a very small chapter only one page.Me e-mail address is the same as the web site[@yahoo.com].
You can also request it from the site too.
You say 'if there is proof then offer it'; here is the offer.2 Timothy 2:13 if we believe not, yet He abideth faithful:
He cannot deny himself.Those are the conditions.
Ed J
December 31, 2009 at 3:22 am#167377Ed JParticipantQuote (Stu @ Dec. 31 2009,11:06) Science does not prove, it only disproves. Stuart
Hi Stuart,Then why do you believe in the story of evolution?
Ed J
December 31, 2009 at 3:23 am#167378StuParticipantEd
Sorry I haven't the faintest idea what you are on about.
Stuart
December 31, 2009 at 3:24 am#167379StuParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Dec. 31 2009,14:22) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 31 2009,11:06) Science does not prove, it only disproves. Stuart
Hi Stuart,Then why do you believe in the story of evolution?
Ed J
Because no one has ever disproved it. It is the closest we have for a model of what is going on in the natural world.It is, as it says in the title of Richard Dawkins's latest book, the greatest show on earth.
Actually it is the only biological show on earth.
Stuart
December 31, 2009 at 3:31 am#167381bodhithartaParticipantQuote (Stu @ Dec. 31 2009,14:24) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 31 2009,14:22) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 31 2009,11:06) Science does not prove, it only disproves. Stuart
Hi Stuart,Then why do you believe in the story of evolution?
Ed J
Because no one has ever disproved it. It is the closest we have for a model of what is going on in the natural world.It is, as it says in the title of Richard Dawkins's latest book, the greatest show on earth.
Actually it is the only biological show on earth.
Stuart
Then you should also believe in God certainly no one has disproved the existence of God, quite the contrary God has been discovered independently by cultures all around the world.December 31, 2009 at 3:35 am#167384StuParticipantQuote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 31 2009,14:31) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 31 2009,14:24) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 31 2009,14:22) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 31 2009,11:06) Science does not prove, it only disproves. Stuart
Hi Stuart,Then why do you believe in the story of evolution?
Ed J
Because no one has ever disproved it. It is the closest we have for a model of what is going on in the natural world.It is, as it says in the title of Richard Dawkins's latest book, the greatest show on earth.
Actually it is the only biological show on earth.
Stuart
Then you should also believe in God certainly no one has disproved the existence of God, quite the contrary God has been discovered independently by cultures all around the world.
Is your god described by a scientific theory?No, it is described by deluded types who are forced to lie when confronted with the facts of natural history.
Stuart
December 31, 2009 at 3:35 am#167385Ed JParticipantQuote (Stu @ Dec. 31 2009,14:23) Ed Sorry I haven't the faintest idea what you are on about.
Stuart
Hi Stuart,It seems neither does BD.
It looks like you have joined with me in BD's eyes?I'm about my father's business; He created this matrix.
You currently believe false stories from people who do not know him.God bless,
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgDecember 31, 2009 at 3:37 am#167387StuParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Dec. 31 2009,14:35) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 31 2009,14:23) Ed Sorry I haven't the faintest idea what you are on about.
Stuart
Hi Stuart,It seems neither does BD.
It looks like you have joined with me in BD's eyes?I'm about my father's business; He created this matrix.
You currently believe false stories from people who do not know him.God bless,
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
So you would like to correct those false stories by telling false stories of your own.Remember, the stories I tell are based in the best knowledge we have about natural history, and I am completely willing to change my view if you can demonstrate unambiguously that I am wrong.
Are you prepared to do the same with your beliefs?
Stuart
December 31, 2009 at 4:28 am#167398Ed JParticipantQuote (Stu @ Dec. 31 2009,14:37) Remember, the stories I tell are based in the best knowledge we have about natural history,
and I am completely willing to change my view if you can demonstrate unambiguously that I am wrong.Are you prepared to do the same with your beliefs?
Stuart
Hi Stuart,You do realize what you have just said is a dichotomy; don't you?
Ed J
December 31, 2009 at 4:31 am#167399bodhithartaParticipantQuote (Stu @ Dec. 31 2009,14:35) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 31 2009,14:31) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 31 2009,14:24) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 31 2009,14:22) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 31 2009,11:06) Science does not prove, it only disproves. Stuart
Hi Stuart,Then why do you believe in the story of evolution?
Ed J
Because no one has ever disproved it. It is the closest we have for a model of what is going on in the natural world.It is, as it says in the title of Richard Dawkins's latest book, the greatest show on earth.
Actually it is the only biological show on earth.
Stuart
Then you should also believe in God certainly no one has disproved the existence of God, quite the contrary God has been discovered independently by cultures all around the world.
Is your god described by a scientific theory?No, it is described by deluded types who are forced to lie when confronted with the facts of natural history.
Stuart
Is your bitterness some sort of evidence against God?You sound like someone ready to strap a bomb to his chest.
December 31, 2009 at 4:33 am#167401bodhithartaParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Dec. 31 2009,14:35) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 31 2009,14:23) Ed Sorry I haven't the faintest idea what you are on about.
Stuart
Hi Stuart,It seems neither does BD.
It looks like you have joined with me in BD's eyes?I'm about my father's business; He created this matrix.
You currently believe false stories from people who do not know him.God bless,
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
ED,You are Stuarts greatest hope because he thinks just like you.
He is stubborn like you but you are starting to make him believe, IMO
December 31, 2009 at 4:46 am#167406Ed JParticipantQuote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 31 2009,15:33) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 31 2009,14:35) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 31 2009,14:23) Ed Sorry I haven't the faintest idea what you are on about.
Stuart
Hi Stuart,It seems neither does BD.
It looks like you have joined with me in BD's eyes?I'm about my father's business; He created this matrix.
You currently believe false stories from people who do not know him.God bless,
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
ED,You are Stuarts greatest hope because he thinks just like you.
He is stubborn like you but you are starting to make him believe, IMO
Hi BD,Thank you.
Prob.14:15 The simple believeth every word:
but the prudent looketh well to his going.God bless you my friend,
Ed (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:14)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgDecember 31, 2009 at 4:48 am#167407StuParticipantQuote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 31 2009,15:31) You sound like someone ready to strap a bomb to his chest.
Do you know that sound BD?Stuart
December 31, 2009 at 4:50 am#167409StuParticipantQuote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 31 2009,15:33) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 31 2009,14:35) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 31 2009,14:23) Ed Sorry I haven't the faintest idea what you are on about.
Stuart
Hi Stuart,It seems neither does BD.
It looks like you have joined with me in BD's eyes?I'm about my father's business; He created this matrix.
You currently believe false stories from people who do not know him.God bless,
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
ED,You are Stuarts greatest hope because he thinks just like you.
He is stubborn like you but you are starting to make him believe, IMO
I am in the dark here. Exactly what do you think Ed has 'started to make me believe'?Stuart
December 31, 2009 at 4:54 am#167411bodhithartaParticipantQuote (Stu @ Dec. 31 2009,15:48) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 31 2009,15:31) You sound like someone ready to strap a bomb to his chest.
Do you know that sound BD?Stuart
It sounds bitter and depressive, like no one understands and you just want to explode but you are not alone in your thoughts many people are feeling Isolated and lonely these days.You don't need to feel bitter, you have friends who cae about you here. We don't want you to be Isolated or feel isolated we love you.
December 31, 2009 at 5:00 am#167413bodhithartaParticipantQuote (Stu @ Dec. 31 2009,15:50) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 31 2009,15:33) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 31 2009,14:35) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 31 2009,14:23) Ed Sorry I haven't the faintest idea what you are on about.
Stuart
Hi Stuart,It seems neither does BD.
It looks like you have joined with me in BD's eyes?I'm about my father's business; He created this matrix.
You currently believe false stories from people who do not know him.God bless,
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
ED,You are Stuarts greatest hope because he thinks just like you.
He is stubborn like you but you are starting to make him believe, IMO
I am in the dark here. Exactly what do you think Ed has 'started to make me believe'?Stuart
Exactly! You are in the Dark and ED is helping you to start to see some Light at the end of your depressive tunnel.Atheists love Math they believe it proves things and of course it does so you try to shun ED's very provocative proofs but really it is breaking you down if you are honest about it.
I just wish ED would except the whole theory
December 31, 2009 at 5:02 am#167414StuParticipantQuote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 31 2009,15:54) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 31 2009,15:48) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 31 2009,15:31) You sound like someone ready to strap a bomb to his chest.
Do you know that sound BD?Stuart
It sounds bitter and depressive, like no one understands and you just want to explode but you are not alone in your thoughts many people are feeling Isolated and lonely these days.You don't need to feel bitter, you have friends who cae about you here. We don't want you to be Isolated or feel isolated we love you.
Just goes to show that you can't judge a person's state of mind by what he writes about your non-existent Imaginary Friend then, doesn't it!I am happy not to be under constant surveillance by an all-knowing and punishing brute. The universe is beautiful because it is free of such petty gods. What is there to be miserable about?
Stuart
December 31, 2009 at 5:25 am#167420bodhithartaParticipantQuote (Stu @ Dec. 31 2009,16:02) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 31 2009,15:54) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 31 2009,15:48) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 31 2009,15:31) You sound like someone ready to strap a bomb to his chest.
Do you know that sound BD?Stuart
It sounds bitter and depressive, like no one understands and you just want to explode but you are not alone in your thoughts many people are feeling Isolated and lonely these days.You don't need to feel bitter, you have friends who cae about you here. We don't want you to be Isolated or feel isolated we love you.
Just goes to show that you can't judge a person's state of mind by what he writes about your non-existent Imaginary Friend then, doesn't it!I am happy not to be under constant surveillance by an all-knowing and punishing brute. The universe is beautiful because it is free of such petty gods. What is there to be miserable about?
Stuart
STU,ED knows your depressed and is really reaching out to you, I suggest you accept his help.
At least read his book.
December 31, 2009 at 5:31 am#167422Ed JParticipantQuote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 31 2009,16:25) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 31 2009,16:02) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 31 2009,15:54) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 31 2009,15:48) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 31 2009,15:31) You sound like someone ready to strap a bomb to his chest.
Do you know that sound BD?Stuart
It sounds bitter and depressive, like no one understands and you just want to explode but you are not alone in your thoughts many people are feeling Isolated and lonely these days.You don't need to feel bitter, you have friends who cae about you here. We don't want you to be Isolated or feel isolated we love you.
Just goes to show that you can't judge a person's state of mind by what he writes about your non-existent Imaginary Friend then, doesn't it!I am happy not to be under constant surveillance by an all-knowing and punishing brute. The universe is beautiful because it is free of such petty gods. What is there to be miserable about?
Stuart
STU,ED knows your depressed and is really reaching out to you, I suggest you accept his help.
At least read his book.
Hi BD,I would be interested in reading your book as well,
Can you e-mail it to me?Your (stubborn) friend
Ed JDecember 31, 2009 at 5:38 am#167424StuParticipantQuote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 31 2009,16:25) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 31 2009,16:02) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 31 2009,15:54) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 31 2009,15:48) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 31 2009,15:31) You sound like someone ready to strap a bomb to his chest.
Do you know that sound BD?Stuart
It sounds bitter and depressive, like no one understands and you just want to explode but you are not alone in your thoughts many people are feeling Isolated and lonely these days.You don't need to feel bitter, you have friends who cae about you here. We don't want you to be Isolated or feel isolated we love you.
Just goes to show that you can't judge a person's state of mind by what he writes about your non-existent Imaginary Friend then, doesn't it!I am happy not to be under constant surveillance by an all-knowing and punishing brute. The universe is beautiful because it is free of such petty gods. What is there to be miserable about?
Stuart
STU,ED knows your depressed and is really reaching out to you, I suggest you accept his help.
At least read his book.
I didn't realise it was a book for the desperate.Perhaps I should have realised that reading his posts.
Stuart
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