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- December 25, 2014 at 2:02 am#787584WakeupParticipant
I found this video very interesting; because scripture mentioned LYING WONDERS.
Just to give an idea how they will perform the great delusion of the revealing
of the false prophet.wakeup.
December 25, 2014 at 2:14 am#787588WakeupParticipantInteresting to watch how they will fool the people with their lying wonders.
This is perhaps how they will do it.
wakeup
December 25, 2014 at 10:46 pm#787715CamilliaParticipantWakeup, yes I agree….. (Haven’t watched all of your videos yet, but this is a good one).
December 25, 2014 at 11:01 pm#787716CamilliaParticipantSatan only has a short time to deceive the whole world.
The Jews desperately wait a messiah, with earthly reign.
The Muslims desperately wait the Mahdi and Jesus Christ with earthly reign.
Half of Christendom awaits Jesus’ return with earthly reign.So, with all of these people waiting…. and the knowledge of Christ that Satan now has… what better way to achieve the deception of the entire world, than to impersonate the return of the Messiah…
Quote from Wikipedia:
Orthodox layman Alexander Kalomiros explains the original Church’s position regarding the Second Coming in ‘River of Fire’ and ‘Against False Union’, stating that those who contend that Christ will reign on earth for a thousand years “do not wait for Christ, but for the Antichrist.”
December 25, 2014 at 11:09 pm#787717CamilliaParticipant‘And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed (Satan bound soon released?) : and all the world wondered after the beast.’
2296 thaumázō (from 2295 /thaúma, “a wonder, marvel”) – properly, wonder at, be amazed (marvel), i.e. astonished out of one’s senses; awestruck, “wondering very greatly” (Souter); to cause “wonder; . . . to regard with amazement, and with a suggestion of beginning to speculate on the matter” (WS, 225).
Are the beast/image and man of sin (2nd Thes 2) the same thing? I think maybe.
December 26, 2014 at 12:01 am#787756CamilliaParticipantPart two.
December 26, 2014 at 12:08 am#787761CamilliaParticipantThere was a third part but it’s blocked. …….”contains content from Discovery … blocked on copyright laws”.
December 26, 2014 at 12:35 am#787763CamilliaParticipantBTW Wakeup, unless you wakeup, and see you are possibly wrong on some pretty big things…. this is the way it could play out for you:
WW3 breaks out. A world tyrant arises. Control and micro-chipping etc is enforced…. you believe the enforcer to be the beast.
Years later, a delusion occurs- a counterfeit Christ returns, destroys your beast, goes to a throne, and ushers in your awaited earthly kingdom.
Peace becomes worldwide…. equality… everything beautiful happens…“While they are saying, “Peace and safety” then destruction will come upon them suddenly like labor pains upon a woman with child, and they will not escape. But you, brethren, are not in darkness, that the day would overtake you like a thief.” (1 Thes 5:3)
But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up. (2nd Peter 3:10)
December 26, 2014 at 12:42 am#787766CamilliaParticipant‘Behold, I am coming like a thief’. Rev 16:15, and Matthew 24:43), ‘at time is least expected’.
December 26, 2014 at 6:18 am#787782journey42ParticipantSatan only has a short time to deceive the whole world.
The Jews desperately wait a messiah, with earthly reign.
The Muslims desperately wait the Mahdi and Jesus Christ with earthly reign.
Half of Christendom awaits Jesus’ return with earthly reign.So, with all of these people waiting…. and the knowledge of Christ that Satan now has… what better way to achieve the deception of the entire world, than to impersonate the return of the Messiah…
Cam
Agreed.Quote from Wikipedia:
Orthodox layman Alexander Kalomiros explains the original Church’s position regarding the Second Coming in ‘River of Fire’ and ‘Against False Union’, stating that those who contend that Christ will reign on earth for a thousand years “do not wait for Christ, but for the Antichrist.”
Yes, those who do not know the scriptures will be deceived. But those who do know their scriptures know that the false messiah must come first and rule for 3 1/2 years, then the coming. He will be the one to issue and enforce the Mark of the Beast on every one and persecute the Christians and anyone else that refuse this mark. He will be the man to lead the 3rd WW. If we want to know about this war, we go the 6th trumpet/6th vial.(Rev 9:14-19, Rev 16:12)
If we go to the 1st trumpet, we can clearly see that the Mark of the Beast is already issued, so the rest of the trumpets lead up to the 3rd WW.
December 26, 2014 at 11:01 pm#787824CamilliaParticipantJourney… at least we agree on the coming deception – that’s good. But, imo, you need to reconsider your perspective on the future reign of Christ, and who is who. Or you will be deceived.
December 27, 2014 at 3:39 am#787835journey42ParticipantCam
Just think on this for a while;
The 10 kings are at work today, they have not shown their faces, but they are here.
They have been planning for a long long time to bring in this new system, so they have everything set up and ready to go.
The False Prophet is here already also, but the 10 kings will present him when it’s time, because they have to do this first;Revelation 17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.
They will destroy her system first. Our system, now, the way we know it. They are the ones causing all the wars, controlling our food supply, controlling our medicine, our media, our banks, our nations, our weather, our education system, our way of thinking, out youth, our ability to think for ourselves and use reason and logic, and the breakdown of the truth …everything.Because they own the Federal banks, they bankrupt the nations.
People will lose jobs,
and because they control the food and water supplies that have been making us sick,
they will cause a worldwide famine, and the cost of food will go up,
and the jobless and the hungry will start demanding the government do something about it.
Looters will arise stealing petrol, food, whatever they can get to survive,
People will be desperate, and even the rich upper-class will lose their businesses and jobs also.
This will affect everybody but the elites, and those protected within their secret society.
The whole world as we know it is going to be in total chaos.
Marshal law will have to be brought in to restore law and order.
People will be shot on the spot for trouble-making, and rebels will have the fear put into them.
Disease will break out because of the famine, earthquakes will be happening in various places causing more catastrophe.
Can you picture this?
Picture a world in absolute darkness, poverty, sickness, and complete helplessness.
Now picture a saviour coming to the rescue.
A man coming with peace, claiming he’s of God.
Now picture him with all his miracles, and smooth words, his idea’s to help mankind.
Picture him exposing the so called culprits for causing this mess in the world,
and picture the desperate people clinging to him for dear hope, hanging off his every word.
Picture his plan to replace cash and cards with an ID chip, to stop stealing, illegal immigrants, tax evaders, drug cartels,
gangs, break-ins, terrorists. Picture a false hope of peace.
If you can do this, you can picture the false prophet.
Now go to your bible, and learn about him. He is only in power for 3 1/2 years. He will take Israel also for himself.You know there will be a mark of the beast, but your absolutely sure it’s not a physical mark,
ok, so that’s your view. I respect that.
So when this False Prophet tells us to accept this new system and you refuse,
then watch him put you in prison and take you out of society.
If you are still around and manage to live through it all and survive the system, in the system.
then you have been deceived.So do what you think is right,
and I’ll do what I think is right.
And go to the scriptures if you really want to know about this man, for in them he is revealed.December 27, 2014 at 7:26 pm#787847CamilliaParticipantJourney, thanks. I will be studying more.
BTW, I never said (with any certainty) the mark of the beast was NOT a microchip. I just said I find it the least likely explanation, and a spiritual mark the more plausible.
To me, the possible situation you described above, would be no problem to a monk like christian or other, who is not attached to the material world.
What would be more frustrating IMO, would be seeing a world deceived… in some kind of false bliss, which underneath is evil.
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