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    Samuel  The Oneness Doctrine is the same then the trinity Doctrine. We do know that Quintus Septimus Florence Terrtullian was the one that came up with.
    The beginning of
    THE  R OMAN UNIVERSAL  CHURCH
    and who ruled it

    313 A.D.
    After almost three Centuries of brutal and bloody persecution, the Roman Emperor Constantine issues an edict, granting all Christians full freedom to practice their religion.
    321 A.D.
    Constantine issues an edict, forbidding work on Sunday, and making it the day of worship.
    324 A.D.
    Constantine establishes Christianity as the official religion of his Empire. It will become known as the “ Roman Universal Church “.
    325 A.D.
    Constantine calls the first Ecumenical Council at Nicea. 318 Bishops attend to settle doctrinal disputes; one of which was; the relationship of Jesus to the Father. The teaching of Arius, a Priest, that Jesus was created was rejected and condemned. Another ruling of the Council was, that the commemorating of Christs death be no longer kept; enforced by death to those who would still do; instead; the resurrection be  celebrated on Sunday.
    451 A.D.
    The fourth Ecumenical Council was held in Chalcedon, a city in Asia Minor. When Bishop Leo 1st of Rome ended his pronouncements, Bishop Augustine of Hippo North Africa, offered his approval by saying, “ Rome has spoken, the cause is ended “. While the rest of the Bishops responded; “ Peter has spoken by Leo, let him be anathema – that is accursed – who believes otherwise”.
    452 A.D.
    Attila the Hun threatens to invade Rome. The Bishop of Rome, Leo 1st, meets with Attila and the invasion is avoided. This increases the prestige and power of the  Bishop  greatly.
    455 A.D.
    Bishop Leo 1st saves Rome again, by persuading the Vandal King Geiseric, of north Africa to take the peoples wealth, but not their lives.
    476 A.D.
    King of the Heruli, Odoacer, deposes the Emperor of the west, Romulus Augustus.
    This is the deadly wound, Rev.13:3.
    533 A.D.
    Justinian, Eastern Roman Emperor, declares that the Bishop of Rome be the head of all bishops, and be the only one to be called “Pope”; a little later in time, “holy” was added.  
    553 A.D.
    Justinian calls a general Church Council in Constantinople; to settle disputes between Catholics; who believe in the two natures of Christ – divine and human -; and the Monophysites, who believe in the one nature of Christ – divine -.
    554 A.D.
    Justinian conquers and regains Rome; the western Empire is restored.
    The deadly wound is healed, Rev.13:3.
    565 A.D.
    Justinian dies; his death leaves the western Empire and Rome, without real protection. The eastern Emperors consider themselves still rulers of the west, but more and more, matters are left up to the Bishop – Pope – of Rome, who eagerly assumed charge; including military matters. He was also able to take on the title “ Pontifex Maximus“ now and did, Pontiff for short. To become the Pope of Rome, to become Pontifex Maximus – Chief religious Ruler -, was the desire and ambition of many Bishops and none clergies as well. It was bought; it was sold, and occasionally obtained by murder. Also, the use of icons and images, and the veneration of the Virgin Mary and Saints, had become increasingly more popular. The true Christians however, inheriting from Judaism repugnance toward idolatry, disapproved of these practices. In the eastern Empire, many battles were fought over icons:
    726 A.D.
    Emperor Leo 3rd has icons removed from churches and destroyed.
    780 A.D.
    Empress Irene permit’s the use of icons in church service again.
    800 A.D.
    Pope Leo 3rd crowns Charlemagne Holy Roman Emperor of the west. The Pope makes two statements here; One, he declares his independence from the eastern Empire; Two, to show the world that the Pope rules over Kings; not always with success however.
    813 A.D.
    Emperor Leo 5th of the east removes all icons again.
    843 A.D.
    Empress Theodora elects the once persecuted iconoclast, Monk Methodius, to the patriarchal throne, from which he declared the final restoration of icons.
    896 A.D.
    Newly elected Pope Stephen 6th has the body of former Pope, Formosus, exhumed. The corpse is dressed in papal regalia and put on trial, charged with treason; assaulted with questions and accusations; and after the trial dragged through the streets of Rome. The next year, Pope Stephen 6th is himself overthrown, imprisoned and strangled.
    904 A.D.
    Sergius 3rd becomes Pope after ordering the murder of his predecessor. He lives openly with a prostitute, Mrozia. He fathers a number of sons by her. One of the sons will be the future Pope John 11th. His reign begins the period known as, “ the rule of the harlots. “
    955 A.D.
    Pope John 12th turns the Lateran (Popes) palace, into a literal brothel.
    962 A.D.
    Pope John 12th crowns Otto the Great, of Germany, “Holy Roman Emperor”. The Pope however refuses to give an oath of obedience to the King; so Otto deposes of Pope John 12th, and makes his own candidate Pope, Leo 8th.
    1059 A.D.
    Pope Nicholas 2nd convenes the Lateran Council, which decrees, that a College of Cardinals will elect future popes. This action takes away the Emperors influence in Papal elections.
    1073 A.D.
    Pope Gregory 7th declares, “ The Pope is Master of Emperors.” The Pope insist; the Pope is above all nations and rulers, and only responsible to God.  King Henry 4th of Germany disagrees. The disputes escalate to were the King attempts to depose the Pope. The Pope instead excommunicates the King. This action by the Pope absolves all of Henry’s subjects from their oath of allegiance to the King, and triggers a revolt in Germany. Henry gives in to the Pope; in December of 1077, he meets the Pope at Canossa, northern Italy. The Pope makes Henry stand barefoot in the snow, for three days and three nights, before he grants him absolution. The power struggle between Church and State however continues.
    1215 A.D.
    Frederick 2nd is crowned Holy Roman Emperor; he is engaged in a fierce struggle with Pope Gregory 9th. Each calls the other Antichrist. The Pope claims, The Roman Church has never erred, to resist it, is to resist God “.
    1302 A.D.
    Pope Boniface 8th in a bull (official document), asserts that to obtain salvation, every man must be subject to Rome, and that the Pope is supreme over all Kings, and that under penalty of excommunication, Kings are not allowed to tax the clergy. His bull is received with violent apposition from all rulers. The French King writes the Pope a letter and addresses him, “Your Supreme Foolishness“.
    1305 A.D.
    Pope Clement 5th takes up resident in the City Avignon, France, because of political unrest in Rome. Popes remain there till 1377, and become the tool of the French Court. This stay is also referred to as, “the Babylonian captivity”.
    1378 A.D.
    Urban 6th, an Italian, is elected Pope. French Cardinals disagree and elect a Frenchman as Pope, Clement 7th. There are now two Popes, and each excommunicates the other and each calls the other Antichrist. In 1409, Cardinals from both sides meet in the council of Pisa, to depose both Popes and elect a new Pope, Alexander 5th. The other two Popes refuse to resign; now there are three Popes. Finally in 1417, the Council of Constance deposes of all three Popes and unanimously elects Pope Martin 5th.
    1492 A.D.
    The Church is loosing its grip on people; because of the corrupt life’s Popes live, such as Pope Alexander 6th, formerly Rodrigo Borgia; who neglects Church affairs in pursuits of personal pleasures. He also has a son, Cesare Borgia.
    1511 A.D.
    German Monk, Martin Luther, makes a pilgrimage to Rome. He is appalled at the corruption and vice he finds so openly practiced there. He has often heard the popular proverb, “If there is a hell, Rome is build over it“, now he believes it. Luther is further disturbed by the selling of Papal indulgences or pardons for sins. The selling of indulgences had become big busine
    ss.
    1517 A.D.
    Martin Luther nails a document to the door of the Castle Church, Wittenberg – Germany. On it are his 95 Theses, disagreements, in criticism of the churches doctrine and the selling of indulgences.
    1520 A.D.
    In June, Pope Leo 10th issues a bull, criticizing Luther’s teaching. In December, the same year, Luther publicly burns the Papal bull. An ecclesiastical revolution to be known as the “Protestant Reformation“ is now in full swing.
    1521 A.D.
    Luther is excommunicated. Emperor Charles 5th summonsed Luther for a hearing, before the assembly of Worms – Germany. Luther refuses to recant and nothing is settled. Charles declares war on protestors; in spite of great persecution, Protestants gain in followers.
    1545 A.D.
    The Roman Universal Church organizes the “Counter Reformation“. The Council of Trent decrees a thorough reform of the Church, and clarifies Church doctrine. These efforts eliminate many of the abuses that had triggered the Protestant Reformation.
    1555 A.D.
    Both religion, Catholic and Lutheran, are officially recognized within the Empire.
    1618 A.D.
    Political rivalries among the many petty Princes of Europe are sharpened by religious differences among them. Peace collapses and the most terrible of all religious wars brake out. Catholics and Protestants fight each other for 30 years. The German countryside lies in ruins.
    1789 A.D.
    The French Revolution has begun. King Louis 16th and Queen Marie Antoinette, are guillotined; and thousands of Catholics, Priests and Nobles, are massacred; the revolution lasts for 13 years.
    1798 A.D.
    In a disagreement with Pope Pius 6th, the French General Napoleon sends his Troops to Rome, and takes the Pope prisoner. He is brought back to France and jailed. He dies there the next year.
    1804 A.D.
    Pope Pius 7th publishes an address, in which he declared it to be the doctrine of the gospel that all should obey established governments, including himself.  Napoleon summons the Pope to Paris to witness the self-crowning of the first French Emperor.
    1809 A.D.
    Napoleon decrees the Papal States annexed as part of the French Empire. Pope Pius 7th replies with a bull of excommunication. Napoleon replies with a laugh, “ In these enlightened days, none but children and nursemaids are afraid of curses.” The Pope becomes Napoleons prisoner and is taken to the City Fontainebleau, near Paris.
    1813 A.D.
    Pope Pius 7th finally signs the Concordat. In it he places all authority in Napoleons hands; to nominate Bishops and Metropolitans, without any power of the Pope to veto such appointments. The Pope is permitted to return to Rome the next year. The Pope’s power to rule has been broken; the indignation has been accomplished, Dan. 11:36.
    1834 A.D.
    The Vatican abolishes torture.
    1870 A.D.
    Pope Pius 9th declares the infallibility of the Pope. This dogma holds, that when a Pope speaks officially to the Catholic Church, on a doctrine of faith or morals, he cannot err.
    These historical facts should really make us think what foundation the Catholic Church has been build on. It is obvious, in this 21st Century that the Pope no longer has the power he once had, but his influence remains strong.              

    We also know that the Church teaches the trinity Doctrine. Trinity is not found in the Bible at all and can be proven wrong by just given you
    Ephesians 4:4-6 …….  The Father is above all…….

    Peace and Love Mrs.

    #86141
    Samuel
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    I guess catholics don't read their bible.

    #86158
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,
    They have selected passages read to them in a hierachical way.
    The sit for the epistles of the apostles and stand when the gospels are read.
    But faithful listeners who attend often learn enough to be able to see the beauty there, and begin to question.
    That is if their faith does not rest on their leaders.

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