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Wakeup;
1] Scripture declares Jesus was resurrected in a flesh and bone body.
2] Scripture declares Jesus was a male during his mortality and uses the same words afterwards.
3] Humans do not have the wings of a stork.
4] The woman that is contained in the ephod is to have a temple build for her; which means she is a goddess; a fallen angel. The two stork-winged women appear to be fallen angels as well.
Man is given authority over the earth while the heavens belong to the angels who serve Jehovah to carry messengers to men.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 16 2012,04:17) Hi KW,
Fallen angels become goddesses and look like storks??
Nick;Read Zechariah 5. A literal interpretation has two stork-winged women establishing a temple(house) for a wickedness ; that is either thrown in with a third woman; or is the name she is called.
Quote (kerwin @ June 16 2012,09:16) Wakeup; 1] Scripture declares Jesus was resurrected in a flesh and bone body.
2] Scripture declares Jesus was a male during his mortality and uses the same words afterwards.
3] Humans do not have the wings of a stork.
4] The woman that is contained in the ephod is to have a temple build for her; which means she is a goddess; a fallen angel. The two stork-winged women appear to be fallen angels as well.
Man is given authority over the earth while the heavens belong to the angels who serve Jehovah to carry messengers to men.
Kerwin.Is jesus made lower than the angels?
wakeup.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 16 2012,05:00) Hi KW,
And they are fallen angels?
Nick;The one Woman either is called by the name of or is the companion of Wickedness. The other two are to build a temple to Wickedness. These do not seem like the titles or actions of the righteous.
The stork-like wings are a sign that the two are not human. The third is either to be worshiped or the companion of that which is worshiped.
Quote (Wakeup @ June 16 2012,11:48) Quote (kerwin @ June 16 2012,09:16) Wakeup; 1] Scripture declares Jesus was resurrected in a flesh and bone body.
2] Scripture declares Jesus was a male during his mortality and uses the same words afterwards.
3] Humans do not have the wings of a stork.
4] The woman that is contained in the ephod is to have a temple build for her; which means she is a goddess; a fallen angel. The two stork-winged women appear to be fallen angels as well.
Man is given authority over the earth while the heavens belong to the angels who serve Jehovah to carry messengers to men.
Kerwin.Is jesus made lower than the angels?
wakeup.
Wakeup;Jesus was created a little lower than the angels as humans have always been.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 15 2012,16:59) Hi KW,
So SEE should read SAW?
Nick,“See” is correct as Paul is speaking as if he is in his own past and will not know Jesus until later; as can be seen by the use of the future tense of “deliver” in verse 24.
Quote (kerwin @ June 16 2012,18:09) Quote (Wakeup @ June 16 2012,11:48) Quote (kerwin @ June 16 2012,09:16) Wakeup; 1] Scripture declares Jesus was resurrected in a flesh and bone body.
2] Scripture declares Jesus was a male during his mortality and uses the same words afterwards.
3] Humans do not have the wings of a stork.
4] The woman that is contained in the ephod is to have a temple build for her; which means she is a goddess; a fallen angel. The two stork-winged women appear to be fallen angels as well.
Man is given authority over the earth while the heavens belong to the angels who serve Jehovah to carry messengers to men.
Kerwin.Is jesus made lower than the angels?
wakeup.
Wakeup;Jesus was created a little lower than the angels as humans have always been.
Kerwin.Heb.1:4. Being made so much better than the angels—
But Kerwin said; Jeaus is made lower than the angels.
wakeup.
Wakeup;
Quote Kerwin. Heb.1:4. Being made so much better than the angels—
But Kerwin said; Jeaus is made lower than the angels.
wakeup.
He was created a little lower than than the angels; as that is a common trait of humanity.
Hebrews 2:6 through 2:9 bear witness to these facts. As your quote of Hebrews 1:4 states and 2:9 confirms Jesus was elevated to a position greater than that of angels.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 16 2012,17:15) Hi KW,
Why do you trust your own ideas so much?
Nick;I believe that when Jehovah tells us to put on the new man created like him in true holiness and righteousness that we can indeed do so. Do you believe that we can?
Quote (kerwin @ June 17 2012,05:20) Wakeup; Quote Kerwin. Heb.1:4. Being made so much better than the angels—
But Kerwin said; Jeaus is made lower than the angels.
wakeup.
He was created a little lower than than the angels; as that is a common trait of humanity.
Hebrews 2:6 through 2:9 bear witness to these facts. As your quote of Hebrews 1:4 states and 2:9 confirms Jesus was elevated to a position greater than that of angels.
Kerwin.Thank you;
So Jesus is now elevated to a higher position; as in position only,but he is still made of flesh and bone.
Therefore lower than the angels in form.
Is this what you are saying?wakeup.
Quote (terraricca @ June 15 2012,21:00) Quote (kerwin @ June 15 2012,19:57) Quote (terraricca @ June 15 2012,07:04) Quote (kerwin @ June 15 2012,18:57) T; Can you wear the new man and sin at the same time?
KQuote “The gift by grace” that comes through Jesus Christ is the gift of the Holy Spirit i have no idea why you give me this answer that as nothing to do with our discussion,in this quote above
T;The new man is the man walks by the Spirit and so manifests the fruit of the Spirit; which is a holiness and righteousness that is like God's. An individual only receives the Spirit as a gift from God and lives by it through faith that Jesus is Lord; and so believes all he teaches. God's grace is to give the Spirit without measure.
Kcan you walk in the spirit of Christ if you do not know who he his ,what he his,why you should believe in him,what it is in there for you if you do believe in him
???and can you as a gentile walk in the spirit if you do not stop to walk in the flesh
?and how long does it take for a gentile to learn his new faith
how long does it take to comply and understand the will of Gods spirit rules
?and hundred more questions to be ask and answer,
the holy spirit for gentiles is acquired and gain by doing righteous deeds and then it still a gift at Gods discretion
and the first call was for the first pen the 144k,the only redeemed from the earth,
but all that are called and accept Gods will have to become holy and produce righteous deeds
and above all presenting the word of God in truth ,this I would call the first righteous deed of all ,failing to do that you are failing in all
Kerwinanswers
?Wakeup,
Quote Kerwin. Thank you;
So Jesus is now elevated to a higher position; as in position only,but he is still made of flesh and bone.
Therefore lower than the angels in form.
Is this what you are saying?wakeup.
All physical forms are equal in the sight of God; as he created them all as Master Works.
There are two main spiritual forms; the first is like God in true holiness and righteousness and the second falls short of God's glory.
Angels come in different forms; according to their kind. I have seen no substantial evidence that angels have spirit bodies. The evidence I have seen is that they are material in nature but often hidden from the eyes of men.
Jesus was elevated higher than God's angels in position and his flesh and blood form is equal to the material form that at least some angels wear. The Spirit gives life and the flesh counts for nothing; John 6:63.
Hi KW,
His flesh and blood form??
Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom but he did.Dogged determination to justify your own doctrine.
T;
Paul teaches us that the gospel is a message of a righteousness that comes by faith from first to last. Whether Jew or Gentile, you must receive the Spirit through faith and perfect your walk in the Spirit by faith.
The one who walks in the Spirit does not sin; for sin is alien to the Spirit. A sinful act therefore reveals a person is walking according to the flesh. The goal of those who seek God's kingdom and his righteousness is to continuously walk by the Spirit and never tough the things of the flesh.
We are taught first for the Jews and then for the Gentile and Scripture reveals the kingdom was first preached to the Jews and then to the Gentiles.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 17 2012,01:57) Hi KW,
His flesh and blood form??
Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom but he did.Dogged determination to justify your own doctrine.
Nick;Remove the log from your own eye before trying to remove the speck from your brothers.
You already know that “flesh and blood”, even to this day, is a way of speaking of the mortal body. Scripture states that blood, which itself is part of the flesh, gives life to the flesh as it existed after the Fall.
Genesis 9:4
King James Version (KJV)4 But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.
and
Leviticus 17:11
King James Version (KJV)11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.
Do you believe there is eternal life in the blood?
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