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btw, Jesus’ earth father Joseph died in a construction accident while working on Herod’s temple when Jesus was 12. Mary was pregnant at the time with “Ruth.”
The Fifteenth Year (A.D. 9)
(1389.4) 126:3.1 By the middle of this fifteenth year — and we are reckoning time in accordance with the twentieth-century calendar, not by the Jewish year — Jesus had taken a firm grasp upon the management of his family. Before this year had passed, their savings had about disappeared, and they were face to face with the necessity of disposing of one of the Nazareth houses which Joseph and his neighbor Jacob owned in partnership.
(1389.5) 126:3.2 On Wednesday evening, April 17, A.D. 9, Ruth, the baby of the family, was born, and to the best of his ability Jesus endeavored to take the place of his father in comforting and ministering to his mother during this trying and peculiarly sad ordeal. For almost a score of years (until he began his public ministry) no father could have loved and nurtured his daughter any more affectionately and faithfully than Jesus cared for little Ruth. And he was an equally good father to all the other members of his family.
(1389.6) 126:3.3 During this year Jesus first formulated the prayer which he subsequently taught to his apostles, and which to many has become known as “The Lord’s Prayer.” In a way it was an evolution of the family altar; they had many forms of praise and several formal prayers. After his father’s death Jesus tried to teach the older children to express themselves individually in prayer — much as he so enjoyed doing — but they could not grasp his thought and would invariably fall back upon their memorized prayer forms. It was in this effort to stimulate his older brothers and sisters to say individual prayers that Jesus would endeavor to lead them along by suggestive phrases, and presently, without intention on his part, it developed that they were all using a form of prayer which was largely built up from these suggestive lines which Jesus had taught them.
(1389.7) 126:3.4 At last Jesus gave up the idea of having each member of the family formulate spontaneous prayers, and one evening in October he sat down by the little squat lamp on the low stone table, and, on a piece of smooth cedar board about eighteen inches square, with a piece of charcoal he wrote out the prayer which became from that time on the standard family petition.
(1389.8) 126:3.5 This year Jesus was much troubled with confused thinking. Family responsibility had quite effectively removed all thought of immediately carrying out any plan for responding to the Jerusalem visitation directing him to “be about his Father’s business.” Jesus rightly reasoned that the watchcare of his earthly father’s family must take precedence of all duties; that the support of his family must become his first obligation.
(1390.1) 126:3.6 In the course of this year Jesus found a passage in the so-called Book of Enoch which influenced him in the later adoption of the term “Son of Man” as a designation for his bestowal mission on Urantia. He had thoroughly considered the idea of the Jewish Messiah and was firmly convinced that he was not to be that Messiah. He longed to help his father’s people, but he never expected to lead Jewish armies in overthrowing the foreign domination of Palestine. He knew he would never sit on the throne of David at Jerusalem. Neither did he believe that his mission was that of a spiritual deliverer or moral teacher solely to the Jewish people. In no sense, therefore, could his life mission be the fulfillment of the intense longings and supposed Messianic prophecies of the Hebrew scriptures; at least, not as the Jews understood these predictions of the prophets. Likewise he was certain he was never to appear as the Son of Man depicted by the Prophet Daniel.
(1390.2) 126:3.7 But when the time came for him to go forth as a world teacher, what would he call himself? What claim should he make concerning his mission? By what name would he be called by the people who would become believers in his teachings?
(1390.3) 126:3.8 While turning all these problems over in his mind, he found in the synagogue library at Nazareth, among the apocalyptic books which he had been studying, this manuscript called “The Book of Enoch”; and though he was certain that it had not been written by Enoch of old, it proved very intriguing to him, and he read and reread it many times. There was one passage which particularly impressed him, a passage in which this term “Son of Man” appeared. The writer of this so-called Book of Enoch went on to tell about this Son of Man, describing the work he would do on earth and explaining that this Son of Man, before coming down on this earth to bring salvation to mankind, had walked through the courts of heavenly glory with his Father, the Father of all; and that he had turned his back upon all this grandeur and glory to come down on earth to proclaim salvation to needy mortals. As Jesus would read these passages (well understanding that much of the Eastern mysticism which had become admixed with these teachings was erroneous), he responded in his heart and recognized in his mind that of all the Messianic predictions of the Hebrew scriptures and of all the theories about the Jewish deliverer, none was so near the truth as this story tucked away in this only partially accredited Book of Enoch; and he then and there decided to adopt as his inaugural title “the Son of Man.” And this he did when he subsequently began his public work. Jesus had an unerring ability for the recognition of truth, and truth he never hesitated to embrace, no matter from what source it appeared to emanate.
(1390.4) 126:3.9 By this time he had quite thoroughly settled many things about his forthcoming work for the world, but he said nothing of these matters to his mother, who still held stoutly to the idea of his being the Jewish Messiah.
(1390.5) 126:3.10 The great confusion of Jesus’ younger days now arose. Having settled something about the nature of his mission on earth, “to be about his Father’s business” — to show forth his Father’s loving nature to all mankind — he began to ponder anew the many statements in the Scriptures referring to the coming of a national deliverer, a Jewish teacher or king. To what event did these prophecies refer? Was not he a Jew? or was he? Was he or was he not of the house of David? His mother averred he was; his father had ruled that he was not. He decided he was not. But had the prophets confused the nature and mission of the Messiah?
(1391.1) 126:3.11 After all, could it be possible that his mother was right? In most matters, when differences of opinion had arisen in the past, she had been right. If he were a new teacher and not the Messiah, then how should he recognize the Jewish Messiah if such a one should appear in Jerusalem during the time of his earth mission; and, further, what should be his relation to this Jewish Messiah? And what should be his relation, after embarking on his life mission, to his family? to the Jewish commonwealth and religion? to the Roman Empire? to the gentiles and their religions? Each of these momentous problems this young Galilean turned over in his mind and seriously pondered while he continued to work at the carpenter’s bench, laboriously making a living for himself, his mother, and eight other hungry mouths.
(1391.2) 126:3.12 Before the end of this year Mary saw the family funds diminishing. She turned the sale of doves over to James. Presently they bought a second cow, and with the aid of Miriam they began the sale of milk to their Nazareth neighbors.
(1391.3) 126:3.13 His profound periods of meditation, his frequent journeys to the hilltop for prayer, and the many strange ideas which Jesus advanced from time to time, thoroughly alarmed his mother. Sometimes she thought the lad was beside himself, and then she would steady her fears, remembering that he was, after a
ll, a child of promise and in some manner different from other youths.(1391.4) 126:3.14 But Jesus was learning not to speak of all his thoughts, not to present all his ideas to the world, not even to his own mother. From this year on, Jesus’ disclosures about what was going on in his mind steadily diminished; that is, he talked less about those things which an average person could not grasp, and which would lead to his being regarded as peculiar or different from ordinary folks. To all appearances he became commonplace and conventional, though he did long for someone who could understand his problems. He craved a trustworthy and confidential friend, but his problems were too complex for his human associates to comprehend. The uniqueness of the unusual situation compelled him to bear his burdens alone.”
(1390.3) 126:3.8 “While turning all these problems over in his mind, he found in the synagogue library at Nazareth, among the apocalyptic books which he had been studying, this manuscript called “The Book of Enoch”; and though he was certain that it had not been written by Enoch of old, it proved very intriguing to him, and he read and reread it many times. There was one passage which particularly impressed him, a passage in which this term “Son of Man” appeared. The writer of this so-called Book of Enoch went on to tell about this Son of Man, describing the work he would do on earth and explaining that this Son of Man, before coming down on this earth to bring salvation to mankind, had walked through the courts of heavenly glory with his Father, the Father of all; and that he had turned his back upon all this grandeur and glory to come down on earth to proclaim salvation to needy mortals. As Jesus would read these passages (well understanding that much of the Eastern mysticism which had become admixed with these teachings was erroneous), he responded in his heart and recognized in his mind that of all the Messianic predictions of the Hebrew scriptures and of all the theories about the Jewish deliverer, none was so near the truth as this story tucked away in this only partially accredited Book of Enoch; and he then and there decided to adopt as his inaugural title “the Son of Man.” And this he did when he subsequently began his public work. Jesus had an unerring ability for the recognition of truth, and truth he never hesitated to embrace, no matter from what source it appeared to emanate.”
Hi Colter.
As you have faith in your believe system,so do other believe systems have faith in their own.
Hindus have their own books; budhists have their own books.
Islam have their own qur’an and hijacked some scriptures of the bible to survive.
Mormons do the same,they hijacked some scriptures of the bible to survive.Now the urantia followers have their own book, but need to hijack scriptures of the bible to survive.
Christians can stand on their own feet by depending on the one Holy bible.
The Holy bible were written by many anointed prophets with all their names on record.
All living in different time periods,yet all their statements in harmony.
The new testament was written by many anointed apostles with each of their names on record.
All have their own testimony,each of their own perception, and yet all in harmony.Now it is up to the voice in one’s heart which book to follow. The two spirits must connect.(In frequency).
The spirit of the person, and the spirit of the holy bible. Or the spirit of some other book.
No man can come to the Son, unless the Father draws him.
You obviously have been drawn to the urantia; not to the Word of God which also is Jesus.
The Word(jesus) was made flesh. Today that same Word was put in print. And the spirit in those Words is alive.
It changes people’s hearts.In Jesus only one can have true peace.You have made your choice which book/system to follow.
The spirit in you have made the connection.
You can not judge christians by your book. We judge christians by the scriptures.
We can not judge you by the scriptures;neither can you judge christians by the urantia.wakeup.
The religions of authority divide men, the religion of the spirit draws men together.
Jesus’ own people rejected him by the religion of scriptural authority rather than allowing the spirit of his teachings to penetrate their hearts. They are still blinded, not by God but by the fetish of idolatry, of the stories the priest wrote.
The church “hijacked” and prettified the spiritual teachings of Christ and has used fear, intimidation and much violence to prevent true believers from being free to have a relationship with God. Educated people are a threat to their profitable game.
Colter.
You dont understand God’s plan,judging things by your own undestanding.
The jews were blinded so that the gospels can be preached to the gentiles.
This is the reason why Paul was anointed; To preach to the gentiles.
Remember the feast: the friends were invited but no one bothered to come.
Then the people of the streets were invited, and they all came.
When the fullness of the gentiles be come in,then God will turn to the jews once again.
This gospel will be preached unto all nations.
This gospel Colter: not the urantia.wakeup.
wakeup.
Its not rocket science or some special pseudo prophecy, Jesus tried to preach to the Jews, they were only blinded by pride not some stupid theory that God is double minded and blinds people while trying to reach them. This kind of retarded thinking is just excuse making for why the self important Israelites broke the covenant and were left desolate.
“That night Jesus did not sleep. Donning his evening wraps, he sat out on the lake shore thinking, thinking until the dawn of the next day. In the long hours of that night of meditation Jesus came<span data-reactid=”.8.1:3:1:$comment1528308167383453_1528419704038966:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.1:$comment-body.0.3″><span data-reactid=”.8.1:3:1:$comment1528308167383453_1528419704038966:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.1:$comment-body.0.3.0″><span data-reactid=”.8.1:3:1:$comment1528308167383453_1528419704038966:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.1:$comment-body.0.3.0.$end:0:$0:0″> clearly to comprehend that he never would be able to make his followers see him in any other light than as the long-expected Messiah. At last he recognized that there was no way to launch his message of the kingdom except as the fulfillment of John’s prediction and as the one for whom the Jews were looking. After all, though he was not the Davidic type of Messiah, he was truly the fulfillment of the prophetic utterances of the more spiritually minded of the olden seers. Never again did he wholly deny that he was the Messiah. He decided to leave the final untangling of this complicated situation to the outworking of the Father’s will.”
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<sup><span style=”font-size: small;”>(1518.3)</span></sup> <sup><span style=”font-size: small;”>136:6.4</span></sup> Before his baptismal illumination he had lived in perfect submission to the will and guidance of his heavenly Father. He emphatically decided to continue on in just such implicit mortal dependence on the Father’s will. He purposed to follow the unnatural course — he decided not to seek self-preservation. He chose to go on pursuing the policy of refusing to defend himself. He formulated his conclusions in the words of Scripture familiar to his human mind: “Man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.” In reaching this conclusion in regard to the appetite of the physical nature as expressed in hunger for food, the Son of Man made his final declaration concerning all other urges of the flesh and the natural impulses of human nature.
<sup><span style=”font-size: small;”>(1518.4)</span></sup> <sup><span style=”font-size: small;”>136:6.5</span></sup> His superhuman power he might possibly use for others, but for himself, never. And he pursued this policy consistently to the very end, when it was jeeringly said of him: “He saved others; himself he cannot save” — because he would not.
<sup><span style=”font-size: small;”>(1518.5)</span></sup> <sup><span style=”font-size: small;”>136:6.6</span></sup> The Jews were expecting a Messiah who would do even greater wonders than Moses, who was reputed to have brought forth water from the rock in a desert place and to have fed their forefathers with manna in the wilderness. Jesus knew the sort of Messiah his compatriots expected, and he had all the powers and prerogatives to measure up to their most sanguine expectations, but he decided against such a magnificent program of power and glory. Jesus looked upon such a course of expected miracle working as a harking back to the olden days of ignorant magic and the degraded practices of the savage medicine men. Possibly, for the salvation of his creatures, he might accelerate natural law, but to transcend his own laws, either for the benefit of himself or the overawing of his fellow men, that he would not do. And the Master’s decision was final.
<sup><span style=”font-size: small;”>(1518.6)</span></sup> <sup><span style=”font-size: small;”>136:6.7</span></sup> Jesus sorrowed for his people; he fully understood how they had been led up to the expectation of the coming Messiah, the time when “the earth will yield its fruits ten thousandfold, and on one vine there will be a thousand branches, and each branch will produce a thousand clusters, and each cluster will produce a thousand grapes, and each grape will produce a gallon of <span id=”search-jump-result-0″ class=”search-jump-result search-jump-active-anchor”>wine</span>.” The Jews believed the Messiah would usher in an era of miraculous plenty. The Hebrews had long been nurtured on traditions of miracles and legends of wonders.
<sup><span style=”font-size: small;”>(1519.1)</span></sup> <sup><span style=”font-size: small;”>136:6.8</span></sup> He was not a Messiah coming to multiply bread and <span id=”search-jump-result-1″ class=”search-jump-result”>wine</span>. He came not to minister to temporal needs only; he came to reveal his Father in heaven to his children on earth, while he sought to lead his earth children to join him in a sincere effort so to live as to do the will of the Father in heaven.
<sup><span style=”font-size: small;”>(1519.2)</span></sup> <sup><span style=”font-size: small;”>136:6.9</span></sup> In this decision Jesus of Nazareth portrayed to an onlooking universe the folly and sin of prostituting divine talents and God-given abilities for personal aggrandizement or for purely selfish gain and glorification. That was the sin of Lucifer and Caligastia.
<sup><span style=”font-size: small;”>(1519.3)</span></sup> <sup><span style=”font-size: small;”>136:6.10</span></sup> This great decision of Jesus portrays dramatically the truth that selfish satisfaction and sensuous gratification, alone and of themselves, are not able to confer happiness upon evolving human beings. There are higher values in mortal existence — intellectual mastery and spiritual achievement — which far transcend the necessary gratification of man’s purely physical appetites and urges. Man’s natural endowment of talent and ability should be chiefly devoted to the development and ennoblement of his higher powers of mind and spirit.
<sup><span style=”font-size: small;”>(1519.4)</span></sup> <sup><span style=”font-size: small;”>136:6.11</span></sup> Jesus thus revealed to the creatures of his universe the technique of the new and better way, the higher moral values of living and the deeper spiritual satisfactions of evolutionary human existence on the worlds of space.
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Fiction is fun and it explores interesting ideas sometimes. I would never trade it for the words of eternal life though. Our souls are too precious to gamble on fantasy. The most genuine souls want the truth only.
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Fiction is fun and it explores interesting ideas sometimes. I would never trade it for the words of eternal life though. Our souls are too precious to gamble on fantasy. The most genuine souls want the truth only.
If one is saved then you should “know it”, you should have a personal relationship with the living God rather that merely acknowledging a creed or allegiance to an idol. Salvation is “real”. If the apostles had your way of thinking t8, they would have also rejected Jesus by cowering behind the “God write the scripture” nonsense of the priest class.
I absolutely believe every word of this quote and stand in complete readiness to be judged by the Living God for my belief.
The Talk with Nathaniel
(1767.3) 159:4.1 And then went Jesus over to Abila, where Nathaniel and his associates labored. Nathaniel was much bothered by some of Jesus’ pronouncements which seemed to detract from the authority of the recognized Hebrew scriptures. Accordingly, on this night, after the usual period of questions and answers, Nathaniel took Jesus away from the others and asked: “Master, could you trust me to know the truth about the Scriptures? I observe that you teach us only a portion of the sacred writings — the best as I view it — and I infer that you reject the teachings of the rabbis to the effect that the words of the law are the very words of God, having been with God in heaven even before the times of Abraham and Moses. What is the truth about the Scriptures?” When Jesus heard the question of his bewildered apostle, he answered:
(1767.4) 159:4.2 “Nathaniel, you have rightly judged; I do not regard the Scriptures as do the rabbis. I will talk with you about this matter on condition that you do not relate these things to your brethren, who are not all prepared to receive this teaching. The words of the law of Moses and the teachings of the Scriptures were not in existence before Abraham. Only in recent times have the Scriptures been gathered together as we now have them. While they contain the best of the higher thoughts and longings of the Jewish people, they also contain much that is far from being representative of the character and teachings of the Father in heaven; wherefore must I choose from among the better teachings those truths which are to be gleaned for the gospel of the kingdom.
(1767.5) 159:4.3 “These writings are the work of men, some of them holy men, others not so holy. The teachings of these books represent the views and extent of enlightenment of the times in which they had their origin. As a revelation of truth, the last are more dependable than the first. The Scriptures are faulty and altogether human in origin, but mistake not, they do constitute the best collection of religious wisdom and spiritual truth to be found in all the world at this time.
(1767.6) 159:4.4 “Many of these books were not written by the persons whose names they bear, but that in no way detracts from the value of the truths which they contain. If the story of Jonah should not be a fact, even if Jonah had never lived, still would the profound truth of this narrative, the love of God for Nineveh and the so-called heathen, be none the less precious in the eyes of all those who love their fellow men. The Scriptures are sacred because they present the thoughts and acts of men who were searching for God, and who in these writings left on record their highest concepts of righteousness, truth, and holiness. The Scriptures contain much that is true, very much, but in the light of your present teaching, you know that these writings also contain much that is misrepresentative of the Father in heaven, the loving God I have come to reveal to all the worlds.
(1768.1) 159:4.5 “Nathaniel, never permit yourself for one moment to believe the Scripture records which tell you that the God of love directed your forefathers to go forth in battle to slay all their enemies — men, women, and children. Such records are the words of men, not very holy men, and they are not the word of God. The Scriptures always have, and always will, reflect the intellectual, moral, and spiritual status of those who create them. Have you not noted that the concepts of Yahweh grow in beauty and glory as the prophets make their records from Samuel to Isaiah? And you should remember that the Scriptures are intended for religious instruction and spiritual guidance. They are not the works of either historians or philosophers.
(1768.2) 159:4.6 “The thing most deplorable is not merely this erroneous idea of the absolute perfection of the Scripture record and the infallibility of its teachings, but rather the confusing misinterpretation of these sacred writings by the tradition-enslaved scribes and Pharisees at Jerusalem. And now will they employ both the doctrine of the inspiration of the Scriptures and their misinterpretations thereof in their determined effort to withstand these newer teachings of the gospel of the kingdom. Nathaniel, never forget, the Father does not limit the revelation of truth to any one generation or to any one people. Many earnest seekers after the truth have been, and will continue to be, confused and disheartened by these doctrines of the perfection of the Scriptures.
(1768.3) 159:4.7 “The authority of truth is the very spirit that indwells its living manifestations, and not the dead words of the less illuminated and supposedly inspired men of another generation. And even if these holy men of old lived inspired and spirit-filled lives, that does not mean that their words were similarly spiritually inspired. Today we make no record of the teachings of this gospel of the kingdom lest, when I have gone, you speedily become divided up into sundry groups of truth contenders as a result of the diversity of your interpretation of my teachings. For this generation it is best that we live these truths while we shun the making of records.
(1768.4) 159:4.8 “Mark you well my words, Nathaniel, nothing which human nature has touched can be regarded as infallible. Through the mind of man divine truth may indeed shine forth, but always of relative purity and partial divinity. The creature may crave infallibility, but only the Creators possess it.
(1768.5) 159:4.9 “But the greatest error of the teaching about the Scriptures is the doctrine of their being sealed books of mystery and wisdom which only the wise minds of the nation dare to interpret. The revelations of divine truth are not sealed except by human ignorance, bigotry, and narrow-minded intolerance. The light of the Scriptures is only dimmed by prejudice and darkened by superstition. A false fear of sacredness has prevented religion from being safeguarded by common sense. The fear of the authority of the sacred writings of the past effectively prevents the honest souls of today from accepting the new light of the gospel, the light which these very God-knowing men of another generation so intensely longed to see.
(1769.1) 159:4.10 “But the saddest feature of all is the fact that some of the teachers of the sanctity of this traditionalism know this very truth. They more or less fully understand these limitations of Scripture, but they are moral cowards, intellectually dishonest. They know the truth regarding the sacred writings, but they prefer to withhold such disturbing facts from the people. And thus do they pervert and distort the Scriptures, making them the guide to slavish details of the daily life and an authority in things nonspiritual instead of appealing to the sacred writings as the repository of the moral wisdom, religious inspiration, and the spiritual teaching of the God-knowing men of other generations.”
(1769.2) 159:4.11 Nathaniel was enlightened, and shocked, by the Master’s pronouncement. He long pondered this talk in the depths of his soul, but he told no man concerning this conference until after Jesus’ ascension; and even then he feared to impart the full story of the Master’s instruction.
Colter.
Now I am sure that you worship another god. Not Jehovah.
A god that has no control of his own teachings,and his own words.
Satan has outsmarted him. Your god depends on men to get his word right.
Needs more books of men for support.
wakeup.
Now I am sure that you worship another god. Not Jehovah.
A god that has no control of his own teachings,and his own words.
Satan has outsmarted him. Your god depends on men to get his word right.
Needs more books of men for support.
wakeup.
“Control”, that’s the operative word, that’s what the Roman church said when it picked which books to use to make the Bible.
You still have great faith in the Satan God.
Colter.
Your god’s word can be manipulated by men.
Not so with the scriptures,because that will lead them into a deep trap.
As it is happening today. The scriptures can not be broken.
wakeup.
Colter.
Your god’s word can be manipulated by men.
Not so with the scriptures,because that will lead them into a deep trap.
As it is happening today. The scriptures can not be broken.
My God has a heart, he is the Living word, not merely the dead words of the dim and distant past. Its no small wonder that the God created in the image of the Hebrew priest bore no resemblance to the God of Jesus Christ.
Colter.
Are your spoken words dead?
Are your parents words dead?
Are your wife’s and children’s words dead
Do you really mean that?
wakeup.
Good point, but God is Living, he is an indwelling spirit, he has a will, but people substitute the writings of holy men combined with ritual and legalisms for Gods will, then you quibble with each other over it.
The main reason people do not believe in God is because they don’t want to . God is not part of their fantasy, so they accept a fable that the prefer.
Same goes for God’s revelation and word to man. He spoke through the Prophets and then through the son. This does not fit with many fantasies, delusions, and myths of men, so they just choose to not believe and then ridicule and persecute that which they reject as a way to further self-delude or ignore.
Sadly for those who will find out, no matter how much you ignore truth, reality, revelation, and God, it doesn’t change the truth.
God gave man free will so man could love God. But those that love God hang on his every word. Those that do not love God will try to create for themselves their own preferable reality. And this is no surprise at all. Is this not what Satan means. Adversary. Like Father like son.
Our works will be exposed in the light and they will show what manner of man we are. The light will prove where our hearts are. Are we with God or like the angels that rebelled, did we reject the light and try to create our own light, which was really only darkness.
For many have indeed departed the faith to follow fables.
Colter.
We dont quibble really, but by discussing scriptures we also dwell in it.
And we find more truth.
Our base are only the bible scriptures;you dont have a base.
You just read books and use your own logic.
wakeup.
Colter.
We dont quibble really, but by discussing scriptures we also dwell in it.
And we find more truth.
Our base are only the bible scriptures;you dont have a base.
You just read books and use your own logic.
Wakeup,
Once again we see how you just lie when you have no answers. I’m born again, I have a relationship with God as I have told you on so many occasion, but you are so arrogant that if someone doesn’t agree with you then they become the focus of your self righteous condemnation as if you are God.
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