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December 2, 2012 at 1:08 pm#323191

Ed J

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Hi AWHN,

YHVH is God's Name translated directly into English.

[יהוה] GOD’s Name [י] Yod [ה] Ha [ו] Vav [ה] Hey …is pronounced YÄ-hä-vā & [יה] YÄ

[יהוה] is pronounced with its exact preciseness “YÄ-hä-vā”; where ä sounds like that of the word “ah”
and the other ā sounds like that of the vowel in the word “hay”. So when you see the tetragrammation
YHVH, the proper pronunciation is YÄ-hä-vā. (Psalm 45:17) I make this point because the correct pronunciation
was thought to be lost, which led only to translators’ interpretations, without any working knowledge of Hebrew.
GOD’s Name (יהוה) translates directly into English as YHVH because the Hebrew alphabet lacks vowel representations.

GETTING THE FACTS STRAIGHT

Hebrew has NO [W] SOUND, No [J] sound and the symbol ש is pronounced “Sh”.

GOD’s most sacred Holy Name [יהוה] was given to us directly from Hebrew.
Correctly translating the Hebrew into other languages can be difficult however.
Some basic linguistic rules need to be considered when translating the Hebrew texts.
These include a lack of spacing between words, as a general rule has no written vowels
and the basic direction in which Hebrew is written (opposite from English: from right to left).
Hebrew word spacing is a modern advent that distinguishes one word from the next,
aiding both translators and multi-linguists alike. Unwritten “implied” vowel sounds
are a concern because, correct pronunciations of Hebrew words are at risk.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

December 2, 2012 at 1:19 pm#323192

Anonymous

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…Jesus is “God manifest in the Flesh”, Ed J. He said so Himself, for He came unto His own, and His own received Him not.

Study the Sanctuary Ed J, please.

…hopefully we can look at that together in another thread to come, for every single doctrine taught is found in it…

…Thy way, O God, [is] in the sanctuary: who [is so] great a God as [our] God? Psalms 77:13

…including His Divinty/Deity and Humanity.

[1] Courtyard, [2] Holy Place and [3] Most Holy Place
Even [1] Justification, [2] Sanctification and [3] Glorifcation.

December 2, 2012 at 1:28 pm#323193

Ed J

Participant

Quote (AWHN @ Dec. 02 2012,23:05)

Ed J,

(1)Until it is acknowledged that the word for God is in the Plural, and
(2)especially the true plural [three], not dual forms,
what more can there be to discuss from here, since the very first definition cannot be properly considered in its context?

I was not asking whether you believed in three person, I merely asked what the text itself reads in the Hebrew,
and yet even in this, it seems to be a struggle to admit so simply a thing. Why?

Hi AWHN,

ĔL-ō-Hêêm(63) = YHVH(63)

1) I do acknowledge that the word ĔL-ō-Hêêm is the plural of the word ĔL;
STOP suggesting otherwise. Do not bear false witness against me.

2) It is merely YOUR theory that suggests the plural represents “three”.

You have provided “No” evidence whatsoever that the plural form of ĔL-ō-Hêêm
is a triple plural form, it is merely something that you are choosing to believe.
So I ask again, what evidence do you have to support 'YOUR THEORY'?

My research suggests that it may in fact be a “Quintuple Plural Form“, rather than
merely a dual plural form plural, or a triple plural form independent of each other.

Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

December 2, 2012 at 1:28 pm#323194

Anonymous

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Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 02 2012,23:08)

…is pronounced …

There is no salvation by pronunication…

December 2, 2012 at 1:29 pm#323195

Ed J

Participant

Quote (AWHN @ Dec. 02 2012,23:19)

…Jesus is “God manifest in the Flesh”, Ed J. He said so Himself

Where? …Scripture Please.

December 2, 2012 at 1:31 pm#323196

Anonymous

Inactive

See previous posts, … it was already given… goodbye Ed J.

December 2, 2012 at 1:31 pm#323197

Ed J

Participant

Quote (AWHN @ Dec. 02 2012,23:19)

Study the Sanctuary Ed J, please.

Hi AWHN,

I have, the extent of my studies is quite extensive.

Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

December 2, 2012 at 1:34 pm#323198

Ed J

Participant

Quote (AWHN @ Dec. 02 2012,23:31)

See previous posts, … it was already given… goodbye Ed J.

Hi AWHN,

Psalms 77:13 Thy way, O God, is in the sanctuary: who is so great a God as our God?
This verse does not say that Jesus is claiming to be “God”, why are you suggesting that? …please explain?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

December 2, 2012 at 1:38 pm#323199

Ed J

Participant

Quote (AWHN @ Dec. 02 2012,23:05)

Ed J,

Until it is acknowledged that the word for God is in the Plural, and especially the true plural [three], not dual forms, what more can there be to discuss from here, since the very first definition cannot be properly considered in its context?

I was not asking whether you believed in three person, I merely asked what the text itself reads in the Hebrew, and yet even in this, it seems to be a struggle to admit so simply a thing. Why?

Hi AWHN,

My research suggests that both dual and triple forms together, form the correct pattern.

Luke 12:52 For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided,
three(Trins) against two(non-Trins), and two(non-Trins) against three(Trins).

Making a case for “The Pattern of Five” – which I call “God's Signature”

1.
…..'There are “FIVE” Major Prophetic Books in the bible.

1. Isaiah ……………………………….Isaiah’s name means “JEHOVAH is Salvation”
2. Jeremiah ……………………………Jeremiah’s name means “JEHOVAH is High”
3. Ezekiel ………………………………Ezekiel’s name means “EL will strengthen”
4. Lamentations …………………….Lamentations means: what, where, how.
5. Daniel ……………………………….Daniel's name means “GOD (EL) is Judge”

2.
…..There are exactly “FIVE” ways to spell GOD in Greek.

1) θεος………is the nominative singular
2) θεου……..is the genitive singular
3) θεω………is the dative singular
4) θεον……..is the accusative singular
5) θεε……….is the vocative singular

3.
…..There are exactly “FIVE” words from The Hebrew Masoretic texts translated to God in the “AKJV Bible”.

1) Strong’s 426: אלה (ĔL-äh) elah: corresponding to 433; God:-God, god.
2) Strong’s 433: אלוה (ĔL-ō-äh) eloah: from 410; a deity or The Deity:-God, god. See 430
3) Strong’s 6697: צור (tsû-är) tsoor: a rock; a refuge(house); X(times) mighty God, sharp, X stone, X strength.
4) Strong’s 430: אלהים (ĔL-ō-Hêêm) elohiym: plural of 433; gods in the ordinary sense;
but specifically used in the plural of the supreme God; angels, X exceedingly; God, X great, judges, X mighty.
5) Strong’s 410: אל (ĔL) ale: mighty; strength; The Almighty (also used of any deity):- God, X goodly, X great; power.

4.
…..Exactly “Five” ways God's Name is written in singular form in the “AKJV Bible” (Note: JEHOVAH is also written in three phrases)

1) JEHOVAH is My Name “YHVH”=63 (Exodus 6:3)
2) JEHOVAH is The Most High “GOD The Father”=117 (Psalm 83:18)
3) The LORD JEHOVAH=151 is [The Savior=117] in “Jesus Christ”=151 (Isaiah 12:2)
4) The LORD JEHOVAH=151 is Everlasting strength in “Holy Spirit”=151 (Isaiah 26:4)
5) JAH (Psalm 68:4) The Name of “GOD”=26 is יהוה=26 spoken as “YÄ”=26 and “YÄ-hä-vā

5.
…..“HolyCityBibleCode” now documents “The God Numbers”(151) (26, 63, 74, 117, 151) showing
……the significance of this as “God's Signature” – which was encoded into the “AKJV Bible”(74)

God's Signature
Proof of God=117
GOD(26) → The Bible(63) → AKJV Bible(74) → The LORD JEHOVAH(151)

יהוה=26 (God's Name: YHVH pronounced YÄ-hä-vā)
YHVH=63 (God's Name יהוה translated into English)
Jesus=74 (God's Son's name in English is: “Joshua”)
HolySpirit=151 (“FATHER: The Word”: in all believers)
God The Father=117 (Representing “GOD”: יהוה האלהים)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

December 2, 2012 at 1:52 pm#323200

Ed J

Participant

Hi AWHN,.

Jesus said: A house divided against itself cannot stand. (See Matt.12:25, Mark 3:25, & Luke 11:17)

Luke 12:52 For from henceforth there shall be FIVE IN ONE HOUSE divided,
three(Trins) against two(non-Trins), and two(non-Trins) against three(Trins).

The Trins see God as three… <– An incomplete picture

The non-Trins see God as One… <– and Jesus as a smaller version of God

The complete picture –> <– Merge the two ideas together, and the big picture begins to emerge

“And the [HolyCity] lieth “FourSquare”, and the length is as large as the breadth:” (Rev 21:16)
Ezekiel 43:16: And the altar shall be twelve cubits long, twelve broad, square in the “Four Squares” thereof.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

December 2, 2012 at 2:00 pm#323201

Ed J

Participant

Quote (AWHN @ Dec. 02 2012,23:28)

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 02 2012,23:08)

…is pronounced …

There is no salvation by pronunication…

Hi AWHN, (Psalms 45:17)

“I will make thy name to be remembered in all generations:
therefore shall the people praise thee for ever and ever.”

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

December 2, 2012 at 11:40 pm#323253

Anonymous

Inactive

Let us now look at the opposing side a moment, from the serpents counterfeit, and see that he even attempts to counterfeit the Three Persons, Father, Son and Holy Spirit, in several ways:

In scripture, satan has always sought to counterfeit everything of God, for all lies are the parasites upon the Tree of Life and Truth.

In the Old Testament, and even the New, we see that the heathen, pagan or gentiles nations, long worshipped false gods, and generally in the form of Father, Mother, Child [all Deity] and this may be seen in the various forms of Nimrod, Semiramis, Baal, Tammuz, Ashtoreth, Astarte, Isis, Beltis, Shammash [Chemosh], Dagon, Diana of the Ephesians, and from the various names of the people given in scripture, Titus [after Titan, which comes from Shaitan, or satan], Nike [Goddess Victory], Jupiter etc, etc. Consider texts as Judges 16:23; 1 Samuel 5:2,3,4,5,7; 1 Chronicles 10:10; Isaiah 7:18, 44:17,18,19,25; Ezekiel 8:14; 1 Kings 11:5,33; 2 Kings 23:13; Acts 14:12,13, 19:24,27,28,34,35 and so on and so forth.

In both the Old and the New Testaments, we can rightly see that Babylon, and its gods are broken into 3 parts, 1 Samuel 5:4; 2 Kings 9:35; Revelation 16:19.

We rightly see that Satan has attempted to counterfeit the very nature of God, even as the Dragon of Revelation 12, 1st Beast of Rev 13 [aka Mother of Harlots] and 2nd Beast of Rev 13 [aka Harlot Daughters, aka False Prophet]. The Dragon takes the place of the Father, the 1st Beast of Rev 13 stands in the place of the Son [as it is given the anti-christos in greek, and the vicarius christi in latin], and the 2nd Beast takes the place of the powers of the Holy Spirit, claiming to call fire down, a false and lying spirit etc.

There will be a three-fold union in the global ecumenism.

“Protestantism will yet stretch her hand across the gulf to grasp the hand of Spiritualism; she will reach over the abyss to clasp hands with the Roman power; and under the influence of this threefold union, our country will follow in the steps of Rome in trampling on the rights of conscience.” – The Great Controversy, p. 588.1 (1)

This threefold counterfeit union is seen through Scripture as well, in multiple places, for instance, in the Realm of King Ahab, Married unto Jezebel, she having her Daughter Athaliah. Thus we see Government, with corrupt worshipping wife, with an apostate daughter. We see the same union in the days of King Herod, with Herodias and her daughter Salome. We see the same union of Church and State and daughters throughout the Old and New Testament, seen in the dark ages and is almost come to light again…

December 3, 2012 at 12:03 am#323255

Ed J

Participant

Hi AWHN,

Don't worry it takes some time for the seed of truth to grow.
Perhaps (someday) you will go back and reexamine
my last two posts on the previous page.

“1 Give ear, O ye heavens, and I will speak; and hear, O earth, the words of my mouth.
2 My doctrine shall drop as the rain, my speech shall distil as the dew, as the small rain
upon the tender herb, and as the showers upon the grass: (The Latter Rain(151) is pouring)
3 Because I will publish the name of the LORD: ascribe ye greatness unto our God.” (Deut 32:1-3)

God's Name [יהוה] translates DIRECTLY into English as “YHVH”=63
The “Divine”=63 “Deity”=63 of “The Bible”=63 is “YHVH”=63 !
Hosea 6:3 Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth
is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as
[“The Latter Rain“=151 and “former rain“=117] unto the earth.

“The Passover“=148
[74+74=148]
Jesus=74 + cross=74 = (פסח=148) “The Passover”=148

“Pentecost“=117
“Former Rain”=117
(Jesus was alive on day FOUR)
63=”YHVH” RAISED BACK TO LIFE,
+54 days after the 'cross': STARTED…
117=”Pentecost” [63+54=117]

“The Latter Rain”=151
“Feast of Booths“=151
(Feast [of] Tabernacles=151)
“Jesus is Lord”=151,
because “HolySpirit”=151 (Jesus' Father) is…
“The LORD JEHOVAH”=151
Click Here for more

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

December 3, 2012 at 12:41 am#323265

Anonymous

Inactive

Let us look at the “Alpha and Omega” and ask some simple questions which can be determined by the scripture alone…knowing that the scripture “cannot be broken” [John 10:35], but first:

Who hath wrought and done [it], calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I [am] he. Isaiah 41:4

Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I [am] the first, and I [am] the last; and beside me [there is] no God. Isaiah 44:6

Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I [am] he; I [am] the first, I also [am] the last. Isaiah 48:12

According to scripture alone, who in these (above) passages is the “First and the Last”? It is YHWH – the LORD.

And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: Revelation 1:17

I [am] he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death. Revelation 1:18

And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive; Revelation 2:8

According to scripture alone, who in these (above) passages is the “First and the Last”? It is JESUS CHRIST who is “First and the Last”

I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Revelation 22:13

I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, [and] the bright and morning star. Revelation 22:16

(if seeking the translation from the NWT for any who are Jehovah's Witnesses, please notice where the quote marks (singles and doubles) actually begin and end here…and who it is that is speaking still from verse 13 and on into verse 16…it is JESUS, who sent HIS angel, it is JESUS who is coming quickly, by HIS own admission and by John's.)

According to scripture alone, who in these (above) passages is the “Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last”? It is JESUS CHRIST.

Behold, the Lord GOD will come with strong [hand], and his arm shall rule for him: behold, his reward [is] with him, and his work before him. Isaiah 40:10

For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works. Matthew 16:27

Who is coming with the reward? It is JESUS CHRIST in all Glory, with HIS reward.

He shall feed his flock like a shepherd: he shall gather the lambs with his arm, and carry [them] in his bosom, [and] shall gently lead those that are with young. Isaiah 40:11 [see also John 10:11,14 for another reference to the “good shepherd”]

Knowing that of the Lord ye shall receive the reward of the inheritance: for ye serve the Lord Christ. Colossians 3:24

And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward [is] with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. Revelation 22:12

According to scriptures alone, who in these (above) passages is going to “come” and “reward”? Again it is JESUS CHRIST.

Which in his times he shall shew, [who is] the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords; 1 Timothy 6:15

These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him [are] called, and chosen, and faithful. Revelation 17:14

And he hath on [his] vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS. Revelation 19:16

According to scripture alone, who in these (above) passages is “King of Kings” and “Lord of Lords”? JESUS CHRIST again.

December 3, 2012 at 12:46 am#323266

Ed J

Participant

Hi AHWN,

Why it's important to understand the seven feasts of God? Because in them is the recording of the Gospel:

1. The Passover (Pesach) – Nisan 14-15 (Leviticus 23:5)…………………..Passover is the feast of (יה) YÄ's Salvation.
2. Unleavened Bread (Chag Hamotzi) – Nisan 15-22 (Levi.23:6)……….Unleavened Bread is Jesus, the bread of life.
3. First Fruits (Yom Habikkurim) – Nisan 16-17 (Leviticus 23:10)………..First Fruits is resurrection or victory over death.
4. Pentecost (Shavu’ot) – Sivan 6-7 (Leviticus 23:16)…………………………Pentecost is God’s Spirit given to indwell in Man.
5. Trumpets (Yom Teru’ah) – Tishri 1 (Leviticus 23:24)………………………..Trumpets is our proclamation of liberty through faith.
6. Atonement (Yom Kippur) – Tishri 10 (Leviticus 23:27)……………………..is Jesus’ atoning sacrifice for our sins upon (†) a cross.
7. Feast of Tabernacles (Sukkot) – Tishri 15-22 (Lev.23:34)……………..is the Feast of our ingathering unto The LORD our GOD.

Chanaukah symbolizes repentance, which is the rededication of life unto the LORD our GOD (יהוה האלהים YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm).

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

December 3, 2012 at 3:13 am#323291

Wakeup

Participant

Quote (AWHN @ Dec. 03 2012,10:41)