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Hi Harry,
I am wondering if you have read the trinity forum (linked in the above post) or the trinity pages located @ <a href="https://heavennet.net/answers/answer08.htm” target=”_blank”>https://heavennet.net/answers/answer08.htm
Your question is answered there.
I read a few quotes on your website including:
A sign of true humility in a Christian's life is a teachable spirit.
and
half of that which “pastors” are teaching is false doctrine
Given your stance on humility and teaching, I wonder if you have really checked out the trinity doctrine or have you just accepted it like most. Have you really checked to see if it is so ?
I would appreciate some feedback.
"tetragrammaton," meaning "the four letters," and it is the revealed personal name of God
Please look up the meaning of the word: personal.
A personal name only exists when it is given to a person!
Not until God was manifest in the flesh of Jesus, could a personal name be given to God. Paul writes of this mystery being revealed to him when God almighty Himself answered the question: who are you?
The answer that follows must be critcal to who God is.I AM JESUS simple!
Again, please refer to my other post that breifly explains the man-God Jesus.
Quote when God almighty Himself answered the question: who are you?
The answer that follows must be critcal to who God is.
I AM JESUS simple!What scripture are you referring to?
The situation I speak of happened to Saul on his way to Damascus.
To make it easier on my typing I will paste in a portion of a past post that I breifly explained WHAT and WHO God is.
In his earlier years Saul(now Paul) was taught my the great teacher Gamellio regarding the one true living God. So that Saul believed with all his heart that he was serving God while persecuting the believers of Christ. However on his way to Damascus Saul had the opportunity to ask his one true God this question:Who are you? Acts 9:5…I AM JESUS…simple. {if you were to be asked the same question I’m sure you would reply with your own name!}
Now that God almighty has revealed his only true personal name being Jesus, let us see how Jesus himself answered when he was also asked the same question. John 8:23-25 shows us that Jesus is again making a point that he and his father(God) are one and the same. When asked directly Who are you? Jesus wisely redirects them to scripture of old Isa 41:21-22 (it would have acheived little if they were given the name of the man standing before them)…I hope this helps.
As always: Look forward to reply!
I think that you need to be careful in saying that Jesus is the One True God, as this puts across an easily misunderstood concept of the way in which the Godhead is set up.
Jesus (the man) was merely the created vessel that the uncreated substance (God) dwelt within(yet still inhabited all of creation).
His flesh(humanity) cannot be God.
But that which is in Him(Divinity) is certainly worthy of the title God, for it is the very same substance that is the Eternal, Omnipresent, Omnipotent, Omniscient, Spirit that is the One God of both the OT and NT.
Here is Jesus being called God:
John 20:28 My Lord and my God 1John 5:20 This is the true God Jude 25 To the only wise God Hebrews 1:8 Thy throne O God.Jesus possessed the Divine attributes:
Omnipotence-Matt 28:18 All power is given unto me Omnipresence-Matt 18:20 For where two or more are gathered in my name there am I
Omniscince-John 2:24,25 He knew all menJesus possessed Divine prerogatives:
Recieved worship-Matt 14:33 Then they…came and worshipped Him.
Forgave sin-Mark 2:5 Son, thy sins be forgiven thee.
Creator-John 1:3 All things were made by Him.This is why God has taken the name Jesus, as this is the only time that God Himself dwelt in the perfect vessel to fulfil the scripture: Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.KJV
This fact is confirmed when God is asked the question: "Who are you" in Acts 9:5.
Therefore, in light of the above scipture, we find that the One True God remains the same, and more importantly, He now has His own personal name!
Hi GJG,
You say
“Jesus (the man) was merely the created vessel that the uncreated substance (God) dwelt within(yet still inhabited all of creation).His flesh(humanity) cannot be God.
But that which is in Him(Divinity) is certainly worthy of the title God, for it is the very same substance that is the Eternal, Omnipresent, Omnipotent, Omniscient, Spirit that is the One God of both the OT and NT.”
So Jesus was a man I agree.
He was just like us.
We are more than flesh.
Are you saying men are just flesh?1Thess 5
” 23And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.”Surely the contents of his vessel was the Spirit of God in the fulness of deity?
u all are confused………………..Jesus never said he was GOD. HE HIM SELF SAID I DON`T KNOW THE HOUR OF HIS SECOND COMING U REFUSE TO THINK FOR YOUR SELF…….WAKE UP
Quote (chicano4571 @ Nov. 17 2006,20:10) u all are confused………………..Jesus never said he was GOD. HE HIM SELF SAID I DON`T KNOW THE HOUR OF HIS SECOND COMING U REFUSE TO THINK FOR YOUR SELF…….WAKE UP
All confused?Many here know that Jesus isn't the Almighty God.
We know that he is the son of God, the Messiah, and the Word who became flesh. That is what scripture teaches and we do not teach beyond that which is written.
Joh 17:5 And now Father, glorify Me with Yourself with the glory which I had with You before the world was.
And this was His former glory..
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 He was in the beginning with God.So what is the conclusion we must come to?
Quote Many here know that Jesus isn't the Almighty God. t8
Nice! I like the way you say Almighty God!
Of course we know that you believe that Jesus was (A) God. Why not just say it! It just dosnt sound quite right if you do, does it?
To be calling another God, Deity, of course a lessor God, your Lord and Savior!
We Know in whom we have believed!
Say what?
I am saying that Jesus is not the Almighty God. Scripture is clear that he is at the right-hand of the Majesty on High.
Luke 22:69
But from now on, the Son of Man will be seated at the right hand of the mighty God.”Ephesians 1:20
which he exerted in Christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly realms,Colossians 3:1
Since, then, you have been raised with Christ, set your hearts on things above, where Christ is seated at the right hand of God.Hebrews 8:1
The point of what we are saying is this: We do have such a high priest, who sat down at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in heaven,Acts 7:55
But Stephen, full of the Holy Spirit, looked up to heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God.Is that nice enough?
What can you say against these scriptures?
Quote Say what? I am saying that Jesus is not the Almighty God. Scripture is clear that he is at the right-hand of the Majesty on High.
Luke 22:69
But from now on, the Son of Man will be seated at the right hand of the mighty God.”Ephesians 1:20
which he exerted in Christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly realms,Colossians 3:1
Since, then, you have been raised with Christ, set your hearts on things above, where Christ is seated at the right hand of God.Hebrews 8:1
The point of what we are saying is this: We do have such a high priest, who sat down at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in heaven,Acts 7:55
But Stephen, full of the Holy Spirit, looked up to heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God.Is that nice enough?
What can you say against these scriptures?
He he…I think you need to do some research and find out what “right hand of God” means in a Jewish context….Quote Say what? I am saying that Jesus is not the Almighty God. Scripture is clear that he is at the right-hand of the Majesty on High.
Luke 22:69
But from now on, the Son of Man will be seated at the right hand of the mighty God.”Ephesians 1:20
which he exerted in Christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly realms,Colossians 3:1
Since, then, you have been raised with Christ, set your hearts on things above, where Christ is seated at the right hand of God.Hebrews 8:1
The point of what we are saying is this: We do have such a high priest, who sat down at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in heaven,Acts 7:55
But Stephen, full of the Holy Spirit, looked up to heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God.Is that nice enough?
t8
I guess you missed my point! You say that the Father is the almighty the enphasis is on the almighty because you believe that Jesus is (a) God but not the almighty God!
But yet I dont hear you guys talking about the greater God the Father, and the lessor God the Word. Almighty God mask the term! If I am wrong please correct me! If ti is true that you call Jesus a God than why not Just say it and then say that he is the lessor God that you serve calling him your Lord and Savior!
Quote He he…I think you need to do some research and find out what “right hand of God” means in a Jewish context…. True Is 1:18
Quote I guess you missed my point! You say that the Father is the almighty the enphasis is on the almighty because you believe that Jesus is (a) God but not the almighty God! But yet I dont hear you guys talking about the greater God the Father, and the lessor God the Word. Almighty God mask the term! If I am wrong please correct me! If ti is true that you call Jesus a God than why not Just say it and then say that he is the lessor God that you serve calling him your Lord and Savior!
True WJ,
It's amazing to me that it's actually been difficult to convince some christians that there is only One God, the Creator…..Quote Good night! All!
Night…I believe that saying Jesus is God is like saying you've captured the sun in a picture it will look like it but it is so much more. While Jesus is the image of the Father, He is not the Father.
Quote (seekingtruth @ Nov. 17 2006,08:23) I believe that saying Jesus is God is like saying you've captured the sun in a picture it will look like it but it is so much more. While Jesus is the image of the Father, He is not the Father.
Very true. how can the Door to the Father be the Father? The answer is that He can't be.We seem to be going round and round in circles here, but you could ask yourself what defines a God? Could it be that the One who has been given all authority and reigns at the right hand of the Father deserves such a title? Especially since He is One with the Father.
Quote (Is 1:18 @ Nov. 18 2006,02:02) He he…I think you need to do some research and find out what “right hand of God” means in a Jewish context….
To be at the right hand of someone doesn't and never has meant that you are that someone. It means that you are next to them.Even today we say things like “He is my right hand man”. It usually means that he is the main person that represents or works on behalf of. We don't use this expression when talking of yourself.
Matthew 25:33
He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.So we can see that to be at the right hand side is good and the left is bad.
But it doesn't mean and never has that the sheep are God. Similarly Jesus is at God's right hand. He is not the God that he is at the right hand of.
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