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  • #331452
    Wakeup
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    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 05 2013,06:56)

    Quote (journey42 @ Feb. 05 2013,01:15)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 05 2013,03:58)

    Quote (journey42 @ Feb. 05 2013,03:39)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 05 2013,02:33)
    Beauty is a Prophetic reference to Jesus


    Hi Everyone,

                                    Jesus(74)  =   Beauty(74)

    10: And I took my staff, even Beauty, and cut it asunder, that I might break my covenant which I had made with all the people.
    11: And it was broken in that day: and so the poor of the flock that waited upon me knew that it was the word of the LORD.
    12 And I said unto them, If ye think good, give me my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver.

    13 And the LORD said unto me, Cast it unto the potter: a goodly price that I was prised at of them. And I took the thirty
    pieces of silver, and cast them to the potter in the house of the LORD
    . (Zech.11:10-13) (see Matthew 27:3-10)

    God's staff called beauty is a clear Prophetic reference to “Jesus” and
    is Theomatically confirmed using the number 74.  (Do you agree?)

    God bless
    Ed J


    Ed,

    Beauty is the OLD COVENANT.  Not Christ.  Your numbers are predicting wrong.


    Hi Journey42,

    How can you say this not talking about Jesus?
    The thirty pieces of silver were paid for Jesus and
    used to purchase the potters field; WERE THEY NOT?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ed

    Read the scriptures.  The old covenant was broken at Christ's death.  ….”That I might break MY COVENANT which I had made with all the people”

    Beauty is THAT OLD COVENANT.  Not Christ.

    Matthew 27:51   And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;

    THIS HAPPENED SHORTLY AFTER CHRIST WAS KILLED.  THIS SIGNIFIES THAT OLD COVENANT BROKEN.


    j42

    this one it seems you have wrong,

    take the scripture that ED J quoted and spread it open in fragments of statement and then add to each statement the reality of what ad really happen at the time of the 3.5 years of the live of Christ ,then see if you are still right


    Terra.

    Why dont you come up with the answer?

    tell us your great story,and quote the whole bible.

    wakeup.

    #331458
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 05 2013,05:33)
    Theomatically confirmed using the number “74”.  (Do you agree?)


    Theomatically speaking, people could use Theomatics for any persuasion.

    If I remember rightly, Bod used Theomatics to prove the Koran and you never disputed his findings.

    I am sure I could do it. But I am not going to waste my time proving that I could match words that are not related at all.

    I have enough mathematical understanding to know that there are many words and if you matched all words in English by numbers, in each number list, there would be words you could match to prove anything.

    And isn't that ironic. That you haven't logically worked that out yet. You need a lesson in statistics and probability.

    #331461
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (t8 @ Feb. 05 2013,16:43)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 05 2013,08:35)
    Hi Pierre,

    That's why ONLY the “AKJV Bible”(74) can be trusted as God's word.
    This phenomenon shows up time and time again in the “AKJV Bible”.
    Proving that “Our YHVH” is not limited by time as we Humans are.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Clearly wrong. The KJV has verses that are added in that are not included in older manuscripts including the Dead Sea Scrolls.

    This is a good reason as to why your obsession with numbers is not a good thing. It forces you to accept the lie that the KJV is the only true Bible.

    We are told to study, not to be superstitious.

    I am being honest when I say you have little credibility with regards to the scriptures and what they are teaching us.


    Hi T8,

    Produce the evidence of your Dead Sea Scrolls claim please.

    Jesus didn't have much credibility with the Pharisees either.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #331464
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 05 2013,16:53)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 05 2013,14:45)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 05 2013,12:59)
    Hi EDJ.

    To understand about BANDS,we need to read ch.11.12.and 13. and get the picture.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    So what do you say “Bands” is then?

    God bless
    Ed J


    EdJ.

    I think bands is the binding(grafting) of the gentiles, the wild olive to the natural olive tree.

    Wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Interesting

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #331465
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (t8 @ Feb. 05 2013,17:07)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 05 2013,05:33)
    Theomatically confirmed using the number “74”.  (Do you agree?)


    Theomatically speaking, people could use Theomatics for any persuasion.

    If I remember rightly, Bod used Theomatics to prove the Koran and you never disputed his findings.

    I am sure I could do it. But I am not going to waste my time proving that I could match words that are not related at all.

    I have enough mathematical understanding to know that there are many words and if you matched all words in English by numbers, in each number list, there would be words you could match to prove anything.

    And isn't that ironic. That you haven't logically worked that out yet. You need a lesson in statistics and probability.


    Hi T8,

    So you chalk up the “Theomatic” connection as mere coincidence? …is that it?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #331477
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 05 2013,12:17)

    Quote (t8 @ Feb. 05 2013,17:07)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 05 2013,05:33)
    Theomatically confirmed using the number “74”.  (Do you agree?)


    Theomatically speaking, people could use Theomatics for any persuasion.

    If I remember rightly, Bod used Theomatics to prove the Koran and you never disputed his findings.

    I am sure I could do it. But I am not going to waste my time proving that I could match words that are not related at all.

    I have enough mathematical understanding to know that there are many words and if you matched all words in English by numbers, in each number list, there would be words you could match to prove anything.

    And isn't that ironic. That you haven't logically worked that out yet. You need a lesson in statistics and probability.


    Hi T8,

    So you chalk up the “Theomatic” connection as mere coincidence?      …is that it?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    to me you theomatic is like a tool to unscrew a hexagonal bolt

    you may have unscrew it with a pipe wrench and it worked but is it the right tool for it ??? NO

    #331478
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 05 2013,11:57)

    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 05 2013,06:56)

    Quote (journey42 @ Feb. 05 2013,01:15)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 05 2013,03:58)

    Quote (journey42 @ Feb. 05 2013,03:39)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 05 2013,02:33)
    Beauty is a Prophetic reference to Jesus


    Hi Everyone,

                                    Jesus(74)  =   Beauty(74)

    10: And I took my staff, even Beauty, and cut it asunder, that I might break my covenant which I had made with all the people.
    11: And it was broken in that day: and so the poor of the flock that waited upon me knew that it was the word of the LORD.
    12 And I said unto them, If ye think good, give me my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver.

    13 And the LORD said unto me, Cast it unto the potter: a goodly price that I was prised at of them. And I took the thirty
    pieces of silver, and cast them to the potter in the house of the LORD
    . (Zech.11:10-13) (see Matthew 27:3-10)

    God's staff called beauty is a clear Prophetic reference to “Jesus” and
    is Theomatically confirmed using the number 74.  (Do you agree?)

    God bless
    Ed J


    Ed,

    Beauty is the OLD COVENANT.  Not Christ.  Your numbers are predicting wrong.


    Hi Journey42,

    How can you say this not talking about Jesus?
    The thirty pieces of silver were paid for Jesus and
    used to purchase the potters field; WERE THEY NOT?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ed

    Read the scriptures.  The old covenant was broken at Christ's death.  ….”That I might break MY COVENANT which I had made with all the people”

    Beauty is THAT OLD COVENANT.  Not Christ.

    Matthew 27:51   And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;

    THIS HAPPENED SHORTLY AFTER CHRIST WAS KILLED.  THIS SIGNIFIES THAT OLD COVENANT BROKEN.


    j42

    this one it seems you have wrong,

    take the scripture that ED J quoted and spread it open in fragments of statement and then add to each statement the reality of what ad really happen at the time of the 3.5 years of the live of Christ ,then see if you are still right


    Terra.

    Why dont you come up with the answer?

    tell us your great story,and quote the whole bible.

    wakeup.


    wup

    look at 2bee quote ,you will get it

    #331481
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Terra.

    Where is it?

    wakeup.

    #331495
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 05 2013,12:44)
    Terra.

    Where is it?

    wakeup.


    wup

    somewere in the 2 back pages

    #331507
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 05 2013,17:37)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 05 2013,12:17)

    Quote (t8 @ Feb. 05 2013,17:07)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 05 2013,05:33)
    Theomatically confirmed using the number “74”.  (Do you agree?)


    Theomatically speaking, people could use Theomatics for any persuasion.

    If I remember rightly, Bod used Theomatics to prove the Koran and you never disputed his findings.

    I am sure I could do it. But I am not going to waste my time proving that I could match words that are not related at all.

    I have enough mathematical understanding to know that there are many words and if you matched all words in English by numbers, in each number list, there would be words you could match to prove anything.

    And isn't that ironic. That you haven't logically worked that out yet. You need a lesson in statistics and probability.


    Hi T8,

    So you chalk up the “Theomatic” connection as mere coincidence?      …is that it?

    God bless
    Ed J


    edj

    to me you theomatic is like a tool to unscrew a hexagonal bolt
    you may have unscrew it with a pipe wrench and it worked but is it the right tool for it ??? NO


    Hi Pierre,

    You don't see this as evidence that proofs God's divinity.
    And rather than a tool that unlocks, you say it will only mar.  
    Is this the correct analogy of how you feel about Theomatics?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #331512
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 05 2013,20:17)
    Hi T8,

    So you chalk up the “Theomatic” connection as mere coincidence? …is that it?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ed J.

    Anyone with half a brain would know that if you took every word in English and converted them to their numerical equivalent (without arguing over which translator to use) that all the names would fall into numbers ranging from say 1 – 2500. So I could then take a number at random say, 173.

    I would then have a list of English words that I could make say anything. Let's say I was a Hindu. I might be able to convey the message that reincarnation was real by using the words in that list. Or if I was a Trinitarian I could show how God is triune and if I was an Arian, God was one person.

    I can't believe that you cannot see that. Pretty much everyone else can when they are forced to think about it. But people are generally polite and say nothing. Don't mistake that for you being right and they have no answer to you.

    #331520
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi T8,

    And just exactly how do you think that is of ANY relevance
    to the fact “Beauty” and “Jesus” match Theomatically?  

    Your only argument can be one of coincidence
    rather than divine appointment. And you know it.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #331521
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    One other point Ed J.

    Hebrew and Greek have numerical values built into the letters and there are certainly interesting patterns in the Bible in those languages. Jesus = 888, World = 600.

    But there is a reason why English has a separate numerical system. Aramaic, Greek, and Hebrew cannot be manipulated by different calculators. But English Gematria is completely made up and the English language is a combination of other languages, Latin, French, German, etc. The language is also growing.

    Trying to make out that English Gematria is proof of God and that this God wrote the Bible is doing faith in God an injustice. Atheists will just think you are stupid and that all who believe in God are stupid.

    Faith in God is not based on such flimsy thinking. It is the evidence of things not seen. A personal experience of God that no one can debunk to the person who knows God.

    #331522
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 05 2013,22:36)
    Hi T8,

    And just exactly how do you think that is of ANY relevance
    to the fact “Beauty” and “Jesus” match Theomatically?  


    Ed J.

    If I had a list of all words that equaled the number 74, do you not think for one minute that a person couldn't put Jesus together with a word that was not good or was evil.

    Or do you think that all words that equal 74 are applicable to Jesus?

    #331523
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi T8,

    The text is clearly about “Jesus” (Theology), and the “Gematria” totals match (Mathematics);
    thus, “Theo-matics”. Also the definition of “Beauty” clearly matches a description of “Jesus”.

    H5278 נֹ֫עַם (no-am): Beauty, pleasantness

    From na'em (H5276); agreeableness, i.e. Delight,
    suitableness, splendor or grace — beauty, pleasant(-ness).

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #331525
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Ed J, you are avoiding the question.

    If Jesus = 74 and so does beautiful = 74, then what would you say if evil = 74?
    Would that be a fly in your ointment?

    I am not saying anything equals 74, but if I ran all words through a computer program and got it to spit out all words that equal 74, would all words relate to Jesus?

    Please answer. I want to hear an honest answer. And that would be that all words would not relate to Jesus personally and thus, you are picking out only the words that you think relate.

    That is the truth of the matter and I know that you know what I am talking about.

    Admit it or I will fry your butt on the Hot Seat.

    #331526
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (t8 @ Feb. 05 2013,19:43)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 05 2013,22:36)
    Hi T8,

    And just exactly how do you think that is of ANY relevance
    to the fact “Beauty” and “Jesus” match Theomatically?  


    Ed J.

    If I had a list of all words that equaled the number 74, do you not think for one minute that a person couldn't put Jesus together with a word that was not good or was evil.

    Or do you think that all words that equal 74 are applicable to Jesus?


    Hi T8,

    What relevance would that have?

    Let's say Archeologists are looking for evidence of past civilizations
    on the continent of Antarctica. And one finds “5” perfectly preserved arrowheads.
    It wouldn't matter how many rocks looked 'like' arrowheads, would it? Only arrowheads would count.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #331527
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Ed J that is right.

    But this is different to arrow heads.

    This is a bunch of words that are grouped together by a number using a base of 6 and then picking out words that you think match. A person of different persuasion, say a Muslim could do the same thing and point to his religion as being right. And why could he do that? Because there would have to be a lot of words for each number. Enough words to paint just about any picture you wanted.

    It proves nothing.

    A Muslim can equally use it to prove he is correct if this is what you call 'proof enough'.

    Obviously it is no proof.

    It works like the Horoscope a bit. Everyone can find  relevance if they believed it and then related to themselves or to their beliefs whatever they may be.

    It is like a lump of clay. You are still the one who shapes it yourself. Everyone would shape it differently and then who is right?

    Does a lump of clay prove that clay is always pot shaped?

    #331528
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (t8 @ Feb. 05 2013,19:57)
    Ed J, you are avoiding the question.

    If Jesus = 74 and so does beautiful = 74, then what would you say if evil = 74?
    Would that be a fly in your ointment?

    I am not saying anything equals 74, but if I ran all words through a computer program and got it to spit out all words that equal 74, would all words relate to Jesus?

    Please answer. I want to hear an honest answer. And that would be that all words would not relate to Jesus personally and thus, you are picking out only the words that you think relate.

    That is the truth of the matter and I know that you know what I am talking about.
    Admit it or I will fry your butt on the Hot Seat.


    Hi T8,

    You are making invalid connections (see my previous post). I'm not just
    willy-nilly stringing random words together as you seem to be suggesting.
    What I'm instead showing you is that there is a divine Theology connection.

                Take for example Heb 9:17
    “For a “testament” is of force after men are dead:
     otherwise it is of no strength at all while “the testator” liveth.”  (Heb 9:17)

    Who was “The Testator”(151)?  
    “The Testator” was “Jesus Christ”(151).

    And exactly how is this new “Testament” enforced?
    By means of God's “HolySpirit”(151) – is the “Testament” enforced.

    In case you thought the “Beauty” to “Jesus” connection was only randomness.
    How do you account for this “Theomatic” corroboration of “Beauty” to “Jesus” death?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #331529
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi T8,

    If you think I'm posting too much, just say so; no need for threats.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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