Jesus baptism

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was Jesus the son of God before or after his baptism ??

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Lk 3:22 and the Holy Spirit descended on him in bodily form like a dove. And a voice came from heaven: “You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased.”

Mt 3:17 And a voice from heaven said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.”

Mk 1:11 And a voice came from heaven: “You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased.”

ARE THOSE WORDS AFFIRMATION OF WHAT HIS I THINK SO ,

the voice of God is telling us that Jesus IS in reality HIS SON

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some notes

36 tn Or “with whom I am well pleased.”
sn The allusions in the remarks of the text recall Ps 2:7a; Isa 42:1 and either Isa 41:8 or, less likely, Gen 22:12,16. God is marking out Jesus as his chosen one (the meaning of “[in him I take] great delight”), but it may well be that this was a private experience that only Jesus and John saw and heard (cf. John 1:32-33).

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
Sonship to God is by sharing in His Spirit and being led by that Spirit.
eph 2.18
Eph 3.14-19,
Rom 8. 5-11

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 27 2012,13:37)

Hi T, Sonship to God is by sharing in His Spirit and being led by that Spirit. eph 2.18 Eph 3.14-19, Rom 8. 5-11

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that is not what is said in scriptures is it ??

Eph 2:18 For through him we both have access to the Father by one Spirit.

this scripture is not related to the baptism of Christ

Eph 3:14 For this reason I kneel before the Father,
Eph 3:15 from whom his whole family in heaven and on earth derives its name.
Eph 3:16 I pray that out of his glorious riches he may strengthen you with power through his Spirit in your inner being,
Eph 3:17 so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith. And I pray that you, being rooted and established in love,
Eph 3:18 may have power, together with all the saints, to grasp how wide and long and high and deep is the love of Christ,
Eph 3:19 and to know this love that surpasses knowledge—that you may be filled to the measure of all the fullness of God.

this scripture as nothing to do with Christ baptism,

Ro 8:5 Those who live according to the sinful nature have their minds set on what that nature desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires.
Ro 8:6 The mind of sinful man is death, but the mind controlled by the Spirit is life and peace;
Ro 8:7 the sinful mind is hostile to God. It does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so.
Ro 8:8 Those controlled by the sinful nature cannot please God.
Ro 8:9 You, however, are controlled not by the sinful nature but by the Spirit, if the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ.
Ro 8:10 But if Christ is in you, your body is dead because of sin, yet your spirit is alive because of righteousness.
Ro 8:11 And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through his Spirit, who lives in you.

those scriptures have nothing to do with his baptism but with his dead

so you have not disturbed the fact that God MADE AN AFFIRMATION OF WHAT WAS ALREADY TRUE BEFORE JESUS BAPTISM

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
So YOU say.

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 27 2012,16:46)

Hi T, So YOU say.

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no so is scriptures are saying

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the baptism was not so for God to learn that he has a son ,but to show all men that HE God ad chosen his son to be the executor of all the prophecy 's what he made known through his prophets of old,

that Jesus was His son not a man but the son of God in a man's nature so that he could be as Paul said ;

Col 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.
Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy.
Col 1:19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him

this was the only way that it could be accomplished ,and so it was done.

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
He was the son of God two ways-by conception and by rebirth at the Jordan.
We can follow the second.

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 27 2012,19:29)

Hi T, He was the son of God two ways-by conception and by rebirth at the Jordan. We can follow the second.

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you answer does not answer the verse 17 of COL;1;

HE (CHRIST) WAS BEFORE ALL THINGS

HOW COULD HE BE BEFORE ALL THING IF HE IS ONLY BORN MILLIONS OF YEARS AFTER MOST OF ALL THING ARE ALREADY IN EXISTENCE

see God says;your are my son, and this his my son

God did not say that at the end of his live but at the beginning of his work to accomplish all what has been said that Messiah ad to do to be the true one ,

the devil knew who he was why you can not

and why would Christ be reborn ? tell me if you know because this I do not know ,

this is religion crap;Christ reborn >>>>>>>>>why ??

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
Of course the Spirit of Christ was before all things
The Word was God.

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 27 2012,19:49)

Hi T, Of course the Spirit of Christ was before all things The Word was God.

N

is this the only comment you have

because it does not answer the questions this quote of your is not a master key to all your faith I hope ??

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
Christ in you the hope of glory.
Those who do not have the Spirit of Christ are none of his.

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 27 2012,23:32)

Hi T, Christ in you the hope of glory. Those who do not have the Spirit of Christ are none of his.

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if the truth of Christ words are not found in your heart ,with the desire to be one with the knowledge of Gods that God has given us through his scriptures then we only have our own perception and reflection to look at,

the maturity in truth as to reflect the understanding of the words of Christ the son of God ,if not then again we only have our own reflection to live for ,

the lack of understanding in scriptures is shown by our knowledge of the truth not of the killing of it ,if we ignore most of scriptures in our understanding then we only have our own reflection of our own truth,NOT GODS TRUTH,

so your self believe that Christ is in you or at the least his truth should be reflected by your comment to share your enlightenment ,IF YOU HAVE NONE TO SHARE HOW COULD CHRIST TRUTH BE IN YOU ?

CONVINCING YOUR SELF OF WHAT IT SHOULD BE IS NOT THE TRUTH IN IT SELF ,

any men can only give what has been given from above ,

and pretending of having received anything does not cut,for the truth of God,

if you do not progress in truth you are dying spiritually ,

but you know all that right

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
So thinking you understand stuff is proof enough for you?

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 28 2012,12:11)

Hi T, So thinking you understand stuff is proof enough for you?

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look at your way of answering quote and you would have no doubts of who it is that has limited understanding

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
Understanding is not the ultimate goal except for intellectuals.
It is a blessing given those who serve God, by the Spirit. jn 14.16f

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 28 2012,12:31)

Hi T, Understanding is not the ultimate goal except for intellectuals. It is a blessing given those who serve God, by the Spirit. jn 14.16f

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you quoting me ;
Jn 14:15 “If you love me, you will obey what I command.
Jn 14:16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counselor to be with you forever—
Jn 14:17 the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you.
Jn 14:18 I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you.
Jn 14:19 Before long, the world will not see me anymore, but you will see me. Because I live, you also will live.
Jn 14:20 On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you.
Jn 14:21 Whoever has my commands and obeys them, he is the one who loves me. He who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love him and show myself to him.”

and so you still do not understand this scriptures what you know is an opinion ,half sentences,single wordings ,or words so that what you say has no meaning ,we all know that ,

and that's all you know

[NickHassan]

Hi Tm
Why chase your tail?
Shed the negative judgemental style and grow.
Pr 3.5

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 28 2012,13:48)

Hi Tm Why chase your tail? Shed the negative judgemental style and grow. Pr 3.5

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that's not a way to answer the questions ,wisdom in God knowledge and understanding of it comes all from God,

because both of them are found in his scriptures the holy bible,

but only the true understanding is given to those who from the heart are looking for and with a pure heart ,if you know what that means

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