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- January 3, 2008 at 12:27 am#159352
NickHassan
ParticipantQuote (Towshab @ Jan. 03 2008,10:19) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 02 2008,16:58) Hi Tow,
God uses many human vessels.
But they are only vessels and the work is His.
You love to elevate the importance of puny men.
Huh? First you say David is not in those verses (he wrote them) and now your response is that I elevate puny men?One moment you say the bible is the word of G-d and then you say that its words were written by puny men. Which is it Nick? Whatever opposes what I write? Seems that is all you are good at: providing opposition to whatever someone writes.
Hi Tow,
The precious words of God were given through puny men.
Such is the power of our God.
He wants us with Him.January 3, 2008 at 12:39 am#159353Towshab
ParticipantIf they were ALL His words, why did He not write them Himself? Why have humans writer them? Because they were written under inspiration but still men wrote them.
Please provide evidence that the words of the bible are the always the words of G-d.
Even your Paul does not admit that the words were all G-d's:
2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
Inspired, not direct. And since he wrote this when the only scripture was Tanakh, he was not even talking about your GT!
January 3, 2008 at 12:47 am#159354NickHassan
ParticipantHi Tow,
You want to know why?
Ask God.
He wants to show his power which is greatest in weak men.
He wants us to share in the tasks and the rewards with Him.January 3, 2008 at 1:01 am#159355Towshab
ParticipantHow do you ask G-d? Do you talk to your bible? I don't need a book to pray but it seems you do.
January 3, 2008 at 1:14 am#159356NickHassan
ParticipantHi Tow,
The Spirit of God enlivens the whole book He wrote through men.
The light shines from the Word and is enhanced by the morning star of Christ arising in our hearts.January 3, 2008 at 1:19 am#159357Towshab
ParticipantAll philosophy, no proof.
January 3, 2008 at 1:23 am#159358NickHassan
ParticipantHi Tow,
Interesting you should mention philosophy.
Since you accept no foundational teachings and have denied the power of God it seems your work here is just that.
Useless empty philosophy.January 3, 2008 at 1:28 am#159359Towshab
ParticipantAnd yet I list scripture while you respond with conjecture.
January 3, 2008 at 1:33 am#159360Towshab
ParticipantEze 18:27 And when the wicked turns from his wickedness that he has done and does justice and righteousness, he shall keep his soul alive.
Eze 18:28 Because he sees and turns from all his transgressions that he has done, living he shall live; he shall not die.What, I don't need Jesus? Awww, Ezekiel is a spoil sport!
January 3, 2008 at 1:34 am#159361NickHassan
ParticipantHi Tow,
If you believed scripture then some may take you more seriously.
But you are just a philosopher.January 3, 2008 at 1:37 am#159362Towshab
ParticipantAgain, if I am not taken seriously why do you continue to respond?
January 3, 2008 at 1:46 am#159363NickHassan
ParticipantHi Tow,
Anyone who would attack the young lambs of Christ and steal their faith should be opposed.
Such is the work of savage wolves and we were warned about them.January 3, 2008 at 1:48 am#159364Towshab
ParticipantYet you never offer anything of real substance while I provide scriptural proof. You give opinion, I give scripture. Then you attack me for not believing in what I provide, yet you offer no real refutation.
Seems you believe what you want to believe as well. I'm just more honest.
January 3, 2008 at 2:04 am#159365NickHassan
ParticipantHi Tow,
You cannot offer scriptural proofs for all scripture to you is dodgy.
The blood of the sacrificial lamb fell to earth for your sake.January 3, 2008 at 2:08 am#159366Towshab
ParticipantWhy can you not offer refutation then? It is there for you to read and you say you accept ALL of it as truth.
Stop focusing on me. It is beginning to be a fetish or you.
January 3, 2008 at 2:11 am#159367Towshab
ParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 02 2008,20:04) Hi Tow,
You cannot offer scriptural proofs for all scripture to you is dodgy.
The blood of the sacrificial lamb fell to earth for your sake.
Ah, so do you accept this?Lev 17:3 If any one of the house of Israel kills an ox or a lamb or a goat in the camp, or kills it outside the camp,
Lev 17:4 and does not bring it to the entrance of the tent of meeting to offer it as a gift to the LORD in front of the tabernacle of the LORD, bloodguilt shall be imputed to that man. He has shed blood, and that man shall be cut off from among his people.So if Jesus' blood fell to the ground, then Lev 17:4 says it was not a proper offering. Sorry, Christianity is false.
January 3, 2008 at 2:13 am#159368NickHassan
ParticipantHi Tow,
If you do not believe even in all the OT and I do
then to use the treasures of scripture
to refute what you do not believe in
would just be playing games.You would bring out your popguns of parlour games and Egyptian tricks adding further insult to our God of power. I do not wish to help you bury yourself.
January 3, 2008 at 2:18 am#159369Towshab
ParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 02 2008,20:13) Hi Tow,
If you do not believe even in all the OT and I do
then to use the treasures of scripture
to refute what you do not believe in
would just be playing games.You would bring out your popguns of parlour games and Egyptian tricks adding further insult to our God of power. I do not wish to help you bury yourself.
So basically you are saying that when I provide scripture since I do not believe in it (I would not provide it if I did not) then it must be false?Weak reasoning.
face it, you're OT knowledge is so very poor that you have ZERO real defense against what i post so you resort to undermining me instead. Its similar to blaming the messenger.
January 3, 2008 at 2:31 am#159370NickHassan
ParticipantHi Tow,
You should not offer us what you do not even believe in.
I respect true faith as shown by the true Jews.
You believe in nothing.January 3, 2008 at 2:37 am#159371Towshab
ParticipantThen refute what I post by actually using scriptural proof. Stop using your excuses and focusing on me.
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