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[Ed J]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 07 2014,05:10)

Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2014,21:29) Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2014,20:50) Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 06 2014,09:26) Hi Ed, The beheaded were the witnesses FOR Jesus the vessel and FOR the Word – the treasure within him No Nick, Your words are unclear, are you saying they were beheaded for the treasure that was in them?                    – or – Are you saying they were beheaded for the treasure that was in Christ? God bless Ed J Hi Nick, Will you please answer my question. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Hi ED, They died and were reborn in baptism or water and the Spirit.[Rom 6] to prepare them to witness for Jesus and the Holy Spirit. The treasure is the Spirit in the earthen vessel of man 2Cor 4.7

Are you saying BOTH?
They were beheaded for the treasure that was in them
– and –
they were beheaded for the treasure that was in Christ?

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
Do not get distracted by the word TREASURE.
It was not in rev 20 and is how Paul describes the Spirit.

In in Christ should be BEHEADED spiritually so they can be led by the Spirit.

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[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 08 2014,01:05)

Hi ED, Do not get distracted by the word TREASURE. It was not in rev 20 and is how Paul describes the Spirit. In in Christ should be BEHEADED spiritually so they can be led by the Spirit. .

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Do not get distracted by the word TREASURE.
It was not in rev 20 and is how Paul describes the Spirit.

THE SPIRIT IS NOT THE TREASURE , SHOW THE SCRIPTURE AND CONTEXT LET US SEE IT

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
2Cor 4.7

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 08 2014,02:53)

Hi T, 2Cor 4.7

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2Co 4:5 For we do not preach ourselves, but Jesus Christ as Lord, and ourselves as your servants for Jesus’ sake.
2Co 4:6 For God, who said, “Let light shine out of darkness,” made his light shine in our hearts to give us the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Christ.
2Co 4:7 But we have this treasure in jars of clay to show that this all-surpassing power is from God and not from us.

SO IT IS THE GOSPEL ,THAT AS BEEN TEACH AND WAS IMPLANTED INSIDE THE HEART OF ALL BELIEVERS ,RIGHT

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
So that is your interpretation?
The gospel does not fruit until it is obeyed

[Ed J]

Hi Nick,

They are beheaded for:

I) The witness of Jesus
2) The Word of God

See Nick, they are TWO different things.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
Exactly
Before the Jordan there was a man and the Word that was with God.

The joining of two into one at the Jordan is the message

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
Luke 6:45
A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.

Goodness comes from God
the fruit of the Spirit

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,

Rev 20 YLT
And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given to them, and the souls of those who have been beheaded because of the testimony of Jesus, and because of the word of God, and who did not bow before the beast, nor his image, and did not receive the mark upon their forehead and upon their hand, and they did live and reign with Christ the thousand years;

The testimony of Jesus requires that we are born again by the Word that we may serve the Head of the body.

[journey42]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 08 2014,06:05)

In in Christ should be BEHEADED spiritually so they can be led by the Spirit. .

Hi Nick

Still don't get it?
Once you are beheaded, you will be dead.  All your works go with you to the grave.  Having your head cut off will be the final one, being persecuted because of your obedience to Christ until death, then the Resurrection.  You have made it.

[NickHassan]

Hi J42,
Death is in water baptism
Rom 6

Have all who have died in Christ by some other means been lost?

[NickHassan]

Hi J42,
This is a much easier way to die

Rom6
3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.

[NickHassan]

Hi J42,
Jn5
24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

[terraricca]

hi

1CO 8:3 but if anyone loves God, he is known by Him.
1JN 4:21 And this commandment we have from Him, that the one who loves God should love his brother also.

DT 23:5 “Nevertheless, the LORD your God was not willing to listen to Balaam, but the LORD your God turned the curse into a blessing for you because the LORD your God loves you.
2CO 9:7 Each one must do just as he has purposed in his heart, not grudgingly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.

JN 13:35 “ By this all men will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another.”
2CO 2:8 Wherefore I urge you to reaffirm your love for him.
EPH 1:15 For this reason I too, having heard of the faith in the Lord Jesus which exists among you and your love for all the saints,
1TH 3:12 and may the Lord cause you to increase and abound in love for one another, and for all people, just as we also do for you;
TIT 3:4 But when the kindness of God our Savior and His love for mankind appeared,

JN 5:42 but I know you, that you do not have the love of God in yourselves.
RO 5:5 and hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out within our hearts through the Holy Spirit who was given to us.
RO 8:39 nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing, will be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

2CO 13:14 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit, be with you all.

2TH 3:5 May the Lord direct your hearts into the love of God and into the steadfastness of Christ.
1JN 2:5 but whoever keeps His word, in him the love of God has truly been perfected. By this we know that we are in Him:
1JN 3:17 But whoever has the world’s goods, and sees his brother in need and closes his heart against him, how does the love of God abide in him?
1JN 4:9 By this the love of God was manifested in us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world so that we might live through Him.
1JN 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments; and His commandments are not burdensome.

JUDE 1:21 keep yourselves in the love of God, waiting anxiously for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to eternal life.

[NickHassan]

Hi t,
If you want to live in the love of God
obey the Son

You must be born again

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 08 2014,07:43)

Hi t, If you want to live in the love of God obey the Son You must be born again

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BEING BORN AGAIN MEANS TO CHANGE FROM WHAT YOU ARE TO WHAT GOD WANTS YOU TO BE ,AND GOD USES CHRIST TO SHOW US THAT WAY ;

JN 10:17 “For this reason the Father loves Me, because I lay down My life so that I may take it again.
JN 14:21 “ He who has My commandments and keeps them is the one who loves Me; and he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and will disclose Myself to him.”
JN 14:23 Jesus answered and said to him, “ If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our abode with him.

THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OBEYING AND LOVE

IS THAT OBEYING WITHOUT LOVE MEAN THAT YOUR HEART IS NOT IN IT ;

IF YOU LOVE GOD AND HIS SON ;YOUR HEART IS IN ALL YOU DO THAT THEY ASK ;

FIRST COMMANDMENT

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
Is that what is means?
Another way of saving yourself?

[NickHassan]

Hi,
Back to the subject verses
Rev 20
“4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.”

I do not think it should be assumed that the spiritual BEHEADING was BECAUSE THEY HAD GIVEN their witness to Jesus and the Word but rather I offer that it was to PREPARE THEM FOR that witness.

[NickHassan]

Hi Ed,
Waiting for you
or are you
waiting for me?

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