Israel in prophecy

[Proclaimer]

Thought is was interesting that no discussion exists about Israel and the miracles and prophecies that are synonymous with Israel.

From another discussion I posted the following, but thought that it would make a good starter for its own topic.

In hindsight it is always easier to see what someone was saying after the event. In the case of the prophecies pertaining to the restoration of Israel it is probably true too.

How many people pre-1948, didn't believe the scriptures about to the restoration of Israel because it was too amazing to believe that an ancient nation could be resurrected? I am sure that many people just assumed it was symbolic or was just plain false hope.

Here is a bit of history. King David ruled Israel about 3000 years ago. The land was conquered and destroyed by the Babylonians, Assyrians and Romans later on. The land has been in ruins for much of the past 2000 years. The Jews, who had been scattered throughout the world, began to return in large numbers during the past 100 years. Since then, they have been rebuilding many of Israel's ancient cities.

Scripture talks of the restoration of the nation of Israel, the restoration of the language, and that the nation would be fruitful in agricultural terms. So how is it possible that a people are lose their land, are scattered throughout the world, lose their language, and the land becomes a desert, turns into a place of Jewish people speaking Hebrew who have burgeoning agricultural industry?

Too hard to believe, well we know it has happened, so now lets look back at scripture and history together.

Restoration of Israel

Ezek 39:27-29
“When I have brought them back from the nations and have gathered them from the countries of their enemies, I will show myself holy through them in the sight of many nations.” 28 “Then they will know that I am the LORD their God, for though I sent them into exile among the nations, I will gather them to their own land, not leaving any behind.” 29 “I will no longer hide my face from them, for I will pour out my Spirit on the house of Israel, declares the Sovereign LORD.”

Amos 9:14-15
“14 I will bring back my exiled people Israel; they will rebuild the ruined cities and live in them. They will plant vineyards and drink their wine; they will make gardens and eat their fruit. 15 I will plant Israel in their own land, never again to be uprooted from the land I have given them, says the LORD your God.”

Jer 30:2
“This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: 'Write in a book all the words I have spoken to you. 3 The days are coming,' declares the LORD, 'when I will bring my people Israel and Judah back from captivity and restore them to the land I gave their forefathers to possess,' says the LORD.”

Jer 31:10
“Hear the word of the LORD, O nations; proclaim it in distant coastlands: 'He who scattered Israel will gather them and will watch over his flock like a shepherd.”

Jer 33:7
“I will bring Judah and Israel back from captivity and will rebuild them as they were before.”

Ezek 37:21-27
…..”I will take the Israelites out of the nations where they have gone. I will gather them from all around and bring them back into their own land. 22 I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel. There will be one king over all of them and they will never again be two nations or be divided into two kingdoms.”

Isaiah 43:5-6
“Do not be afraid, for I am with you; I will bring your children from the east and gather you from the west. I will say to the north, `Give them up!' and to the south, `Do not hold them back.' Bring my sons from afar and my daughters from the ends of the earth…

A wasteland reversed

During the past 100 years, the Jews have been using advanced farming and irrigation techniques to turn barren land into productive farmland. Today, Israel is a source of food for many countries and is perhaps the only country in the world to have successfully reverse desertification on a significant scale. Most countries are losing against desertification. Today, Israel even has the same flag, the flag of David.

Ezekiel 36:11
I will increase the number of men and animals upon you, and they will be fruitful and become numerous. I will settle people on you as in the past and will make you prosper more than before. Then you will know that I am the Lord.

Amos 9:11, 13
“In that day I will restore David's fallen tent. I will repair its broken places, restore its ruins, and build it as it used to be,'' … “The days are coming,” declares the Lord, “when the reaper will be overtaken by the plowman and the planter by the one treading grapes. New wine will drip from the mountains and flow from all the hills.”

Isaiah 41:18-20
I will make rivers flow on barren heights, and springs within the valleys. I will turn the desert into pools of water, and the parched ground into springs. I will put in the desert the cedar and the acacia, the myrtle and the olive. I will set pines in the wasteland, the fir and the cypress together, so that people may see and know, may consider and understand, that the hand of the Lord has done this, that the Holy One of Israel has created it.

I heard someone say that 45% of the bible is prophecy, but I cannot confirm if this is true right now, but in any case it is a significant percentage. Prophecy is something tangible by which you can judge scripture by. If prophecies are wrong people will notice. But as you can see from the above prophecies they are not vague by anyones terms.

And as for miracles, you need not look any further than Israel. It is surrounded by greater enemies than it faced 2700 years ago, and it not only survives but it is a dominant force in the area. Israel is surrounded by a sea of hate and yet it prospers as God said it would.

Isaiah 41:12-14
Though you search for your enemies, you will not find them. Those who wage war against you will be as nothing at all. For I am the Lord, your God, who takes hold of your right hand and says to you, Do not fear; I will help you. Do not be afraid, O worm Jacob, O little Israel, for I myself will help you,” declares the Lord, your Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel.

[charity]

Just a couple more prophecy scriptures to add t8. (Latter days)

Hsa 3:4For the children of Israel shall abide many days without a king, and without a prince, and without a sacrifice, and without an image, and without an ephod, and [without] teraphim: Afterward shall the children of Israel return, and seek the LORD their God, and David their king; and shall fear the LORD and his goodness in the latter days.

Job 19:24That they were graven with an iron pen and lead in the rock for ever!
For I know [that] my redeemer liveth, and [that] he shall stand at the latter [day] upon the earth:
And [though] after my skin [worms] destroy this [body], yet in my flesh shall I see God:
Whom I shall see for myself, and mine eyes shall behold, and not another; [though] my reins be consumed within me.

charity

[Tiffany]

This is and article from my Husband, so please don't ask to many question, please, I am just putting it up for your study on the sunject.

I S R A E L

At one time, Jesus lamented over the people in Jerusalem saying;
Mat. 23:38“Behold, your house (nation) is left unto you desolate.”
But no one understood. In 70 A. D. however, it became apparent; the Israelites as a nation ceased to exist. God did warn his people that he would do this;
Ezek. 22:15 “And I will scatter thee among the heathen, and disperse thee in the countries, and will consume thy filthiness out of thee.”
While the Jews were in captivity of the Babylonians; God had Ezekiel prophecy in a demonstration, what he would do to them, if they would not turn from their evil ways;
Ezek. 5:1 “And thou, son of man, take thee a sharp knife, take thee a barber’s razor, and cause it to pass upon thine head and upon thy beard; then take thee balances to weigh and divide the hair.”
v. 2 “Thou shalt burn with fire a third part in the midst of the city, when the days of the siege are fulfilled; and thou shalt take a third part, and smite about it with a knife; and a third part thou shalt scatter in the wind; and I will draw out a sword after them.”
They were in fact very severely punished; the fire meant very severe trials, the smiting with the knife meant death by the sword, scattering in the wind is just what it implies scattering into the entire world; but was this the end of the nation Israel? Obviously not;
Jer. 30:3 “For, lo, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will bring again the captivity of my people Israel and Judah, saith the LORD; and I will cause them to return to the Land that I gave to their fathers, and they shall possess it.”
Jer. 46:28 “Fear thou not, O Jacob my servant, saith the LORD; for I am with thee, for I will make a full end of all the nations whither I have driven thee, but correct thee in measure, yet will I not leave thee wholly unpunished.”
The evidence shows, God has kept his promise; since 1948, Israel again is a nation. But what did happen, for that to happen? At the time Jesus pronounced the destruction of their house, nation, they were already serving a seven-time punishment period. A time is a year of 360 days, God’s punishment is a year for a day, or 7×360 = 2520 years.
Lev. 26:18 “And if ye will not yet for all this hearken unto me, then I will punish you seven times more for your sins.”
This punishment started with the invasion of the Babylonians in 606 B.C., and ended in 1914 A.D., the beginning of World War One. Is that important? VERY! For one thing, Palestine was occupied by the Muslim Turks, how to get them out? The whole process started with the cleansing of the sanctuary.
Dan. 8:14 “And he said unto me, unto two thousand and three hundred days (years), then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.”
What sanctuary are we talking about hear? God’s throne in heaven;
Ps. 102:19 “ For he has looked down from the height of his sanctuary; from heaven did the LORD behold the earth.”
The starting point for these 2300 years, was the same as the seventy weeks, Dan. 9:24; that is, when the order was given to rebuild the city Jerusalem and her walls, 457 B.C. It was Gods sanctuary that was cleansed of Satan and his angels, their access to Gods throne has since then been denied.
Rev. 12:7 “And there was war in heaven; Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels.”
v. 8 “And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.”
v. 9 “And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world; he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.”
v. 10 “And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ; for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.”
v. 12 “Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe (third woe) to the inhabitants of the earth and of the sea (Nations)! For the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he has but a short time.”
v. 13 “And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.”
The woman is symbolic for a church or religious organization; Israel is the woman that brought forth the man-child, Jesus; and Satan was going to make war with the remnant of her seed, the Jews.
v. 17 “And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep (have) the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.”
What are the testimonies of Jesus?
Rev. 19:10 “And I fell at his feet to worship him, And he said unto me, See thou do it not; I am thy fellowservent, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus; worship God; for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.”
God had sent to them all the prophets, but they had paid little or no attention to them even killed them. There should be no mistake, that the Israelites, which were scattered all over the world, are the remnant of her seed. Satan himself however cannot harm anyone, as we read in the book of Job.
Job 1:12 “And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thyne hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD.”
But there are those that will do his evil work.
v. 15 “And the Sabe’ans fell upon them, and took them away; yea, they have slain the servants with the edge of the sword; and I only am escaped alone to tell thee.”
According to the time given by Daniel, the cleansing of the sanctuary took place in 1843. By 1914, 70 years, a generation later,
Ps. 90:10 “The days of our years are threescore years and ten (70 years); and if by
reason of stength (health) they be fourscore years (80 years), yet is their strength
labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away.”
Satan had the whole world on edge, that all it took was one shot, the assassination of the Austrian Archduke Francis Ferdinand. Hardly ever will the older generations start a rebellion or a revolution, because they are content with their lives. It is the progressive dissatisfaction of the younger generations that will bring that about. It took one shot, and the whole world exploded into World War One. It was by the means of this war, that God cleared the way for the Jews to return to their Land, now called Palestine. He had the British drive out the Turks; and in 1918 the British secretary of State for foreign affairs Arthur Balfour, promised British support for the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people. By 1919 the number of Jewish immigrants to Palestine had risen to about 58000. Sounds a bit like Ezra 2:64, 65, does it not? Arab nations tried to stem the flow, but were unable to.
In 1933, 30,000 Jews came to Palestine,
In 1934, 42,000 Jews came, and
In 1935, 61,000 Jews immigrated to Palestine.
By 1939, Jewish Colonies had increased to 200, and population had reached almost 500,000. World War One served another purpose; it was the reason for World War Two.
After becoming Chancellor of Germany; Adolf Hitler displayed hatred toward the Jews, unequaled by any other. Satan had found his man, and the Jews were to experience a kind of persecution, like never before. Jesus said this time would come.
Mat. 24:21 “For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.”
This is exactly what we read in,
Jer. 30:7 “Alas! For that day (time) is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob’s (Israel’s) trouble; but he shall
be saved out of it.”
And saved out of it he was, Jesus said he would be,
Mat. 24:22 “And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved; but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.”
We even read about this time in,
Dan. 12:1 “And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered…”
There should be no doubt that, the children of thy people – Daniels people -, are the Jews; and the remnant of the seed of the woman are what is left of the Jews, scattered all over the world. So in all we are talking about the same people, the Jews. But Jesus said “for the elect’s sake”, are the Jewish people the elect? YES!
Is. 45:4 “For Jacob my servant’s sake, and Israel mine elect…”
Is. 65:22 “They shall not build, and another inhabit; they shall not plant, and another eat: for as the days of a tree are the days of my people, and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands.”
Rom. 11:28 “As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes, but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers sakes.”
It should not be too difficult to figure out how the days were shortened; God defeated Germany. Think about it; had Hitler won the war, no flesh, Jew, would be alive today! For the Jews to regain their land and independence did not come easy. They had to fight, literally, against overwhelming odds, but the odds don’t matter when you have God on your side.
Zeph. 10:6 “And I will strengthen the house of Judah, and I will save the house of Joseph, and I will bring them again to place them; for I have mercy upon them; and they shall be as though I had not cast them off; for I am the LORD their God, and will hear them.”
While God is looking ahead and making things happen, we have to look back and try to understand, what did happen? And even then, looking at history is like looking at pieces of a puzzle, and without the help of God’s Holy Spirit, we would never know where they fit.
1 Cor. 2:11 “For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? Even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.”

Peace and Love Irene

[NickHassan]

Yes t8,
Good call,
I guess I thought most of the changes would occur after King Jesus is seated on the throne of David.

[charity]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 03 2008,07:59)

Yes t8, Good call, I guess I thought most of the changes would occur after King Jesus is seated on the throne of David.

That is One way believe.

more than one way is evident, together they are bound and sealed into one book.
“will” will effect, destroy, even while a believer?

[NickHassan]

Hi charity,
There is now no other way but that of Yeshua.
The standard of the OT has become perfection
The sovereign mercy of God is not another way

[Phoenix]

Hey guys!

Anymore enlightenment on this topic? Im interested in hearing more 'prophecies' to the current situation happening in the Middle East.

Cheers

[Cindy]

Phoenix

There is much more as Israel is the focal point of many prophecies.
We have been living in a prophecy for some time now, since 1948 when Israel became a nation again.

Zec 12:2 Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.
Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

There is yet one major tribulation prophesied for that nation.

Zec 14:1 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
Zec 14:2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

If you have been listening to the news, you should know we are very close for that to happen.

Georg

[NickHassan]

Georg,
Of course the bringing together of the body of Christ, the first resurrection and the taking up of the saints yet alive to meet with Christ, must happen first.

[NickHassan]

Georg,
When Jesus withdraws his own with God's living Spirit from the earth then darkness will find it's full expression there.

[Cindy]

Hey Nick, you better pack a big lunch, because it will be a long wait.

[Cindy]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 29 2009,06:04)

Georg, When Jesus withdraws his own with God's living Spirit from the earth then darkness will find it's full expression there.

Where is that written?

Georg

[NickHassan]

Hi Georg,
Matthew 9:15
And Jesus said unto them, Can the children of the bridechamber mourn, as long as the bridegroom is with them? but the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken from them, and then shall they fast.

Mark 2:19
And Jesus said unto them, Can the children of the bridechamber fast, while the bridegroom is with them? as long as they have the bridegroom with them, they cannot fast.

Mark 2:20
But the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken away from them, and then shall they fast in those days.

[NickHassan]

Hi Georg,
2Thess2
7For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only he who now restrains will do so until he is taken out of the way.

[Cindy]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 03 2009,07:47)

Hi Georg, Matthew 9:15 And Jesus said unto them, Can the children of the bridechamber mourn, as long as the bridegroom is with them? but the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken from them, and then shall they fast. Mark 2:19 And Jesus said unto them, Can the children of the bridechamber fast, while the bridegroom is with them? as long as they have the bridegroom with them, they cannot fast. Mark 2:20 But the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken away from them, and then shall they fast in those days.

These scriptures have nothing to do with Jesus coming for his own, they talk about the time when Jesus would leave the apostles.

[Cindy]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 03 2009,07:53)

Hi Georg, 2Thess2 7For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only he who now restrains will do so until he is taken out of the way.

This scripture is talking about Antichrist, the restrainer was the Roman emperor, he was not only emperor of the state, he was also “PONTIFEX MAXIMUS”, chief religious ruler. Antichrist, the pope, did not dare claim that title as long as there was an emperor around. Justinian, the last emperor of east and west Rome died in 565; now the restrainer was taken out of the way, and Antichrist began his reign.

Georg

[NickHassan]

So you say georg.

[Cindy]

No, so says the bible, but to understand what the bible teaches, you also have to know a little about history. We, always have to look back in history to see what prophecies have been fulfilled, how else would we know.

Georg

[NickHassan]

Hi Georg,
Yes but do not set your foundation of what you interpret as having happened.
Some of the things you say will be wrong and you should be careful not to mislead.

[Cindy]

If you watch the news, you should be able to interpret yourself what has, and what is, happening.

Georg

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