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Hi BD,
Who said we do not accept you?
But our faithfulness to our Lord means we must remain within his teachings to retain fellowship with him and His Father.[2Jn9]
New and competing claims to be teachers do not rate against him.Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 13 2009,16:34) Hi BD,
Who said we do not accept you?
But our faithfulness to our Lord means we must remain within his teachings to retain fellowship with him and His Father.[2Jn9]
New and competing claims to be teachers do not rate against him.
No claims to be a teacher from me but if I am one to remind of the greatness of Our Father than I am a witnessJohn 8:30-32 (King James Version)
30As he spake these words, many believed on him.
31Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
32And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
Hi BD,
Would you take offense if we were berean?Shopuld we instantly accept the teachings of another on the basis of a few lines from his book?
Would you value a proselyte who did so?
Are we not to be cunning as serpents and gentle as doves?
We are to hear the voice of the shepherd and not that of a stranger.
Quote (bodhitharta @ May 13 2009,16:29) Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 13 2009,16:23) Hi BD,
As sons of Adam God is Father of all but he now only recognises a relationship with those joined to His son by rebirth of water and His Spirit. Claiming a relationship through Abraham was unhelpful for the jewish rebels. He must know us and our knowing of Him only obliges us to repent and come to His Son.All the books in the world cannot save us but we need to diescern if He was the author.
His Stamp of order and harmony flows through all the bible but only dim reflections seem to show in your book.
You have clearly not read The Quran BTW, Jesus said had they known the Father they would have accepted him and likewise you would accept me.
Hi BD,
By accepting you do you mean we should grasp your teacher to our heart?Would it add anything useful to do so except confusion?
Are you allowed to hold Christian and Muslim beliefs as one?
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 13 2009,17:22) Quote (bodhitharta @ May 13 2009,16:29) Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 13 2009,16:23) Hi BD,
As sons of Adam God is Father of all but he now only recognises a relationship with those joined to His son by rebirth of water and His Spirit. Claiming a relationship through Abraham was unhelpful for the jewish rebels. He must know us and our knowing of Him only obliges us to repent and come to His Son.All the books in the world cannot save us but we need to diescern if He was the author.
His Stamp of order and harmony flows through all the bible but only dim reflections seem to show in your book.
You have clearly not read The Quran BTW, Jesus said had they known the Father they would have accepted him and likewise you would accept me.
Hi BD,
By accepting you do you mean we should grasp your teacher to our heart?Would it add anything useful to do so except confusion?
Are you allowed to hold Christian and Muslim beliefs as one?
To me they are one.I do apologize for saying I was not accepted you have been nothing but gracious towards me.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 13 2009,17:13) Hi BD,
Would you take offense if we were berean?Shopuld we instantly accept the teachings of another on the basis of a few lines from his book?
Would you value a proselyte who did so?
Are we not to be cunning as serpents and gentle as doves?
We are to hear the voice of the shepherd and not that of a stranger.
Exodus 23 (King James Version)9 Also thou shalt not oppress a stranger: for ye know the heart of a stranger, seeing ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.
Deuteronomy 10:18-20 (King James Version)
18He doth execute the judgment of the fatherless and widow, and loveth the stranger, in giving him food and raiment.
19Love ye therefore the stranger: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.
20Thou shalt fear the LORD thy God; him shalt thou serve, and to him shalt thou cleave, and swear by his name.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 14 2009,19:08) Hi BD,
Are you speaking just for yourself or all your brothers?
It is the scriptures themselves that say it.Hi BD,
So you are yet a stranger seeking protection in the darkness?
The door of Jesus remains open.
Come inQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 14 2009,19:26) Hi BD,
So you are yet a stranger seeking protection in the darkness?
The door of Jesus remains open.
Come in
Jesus called himself a stranger. Do you still belong to this world Nick?The world knew him not.
If you submit to God you are by definition a Muslim but to you it is only the word “Muslim” that bothers you not the fact that you Submit to God.
Always let the truth triumph over your ego.
Hi BD,
He was not estranged from his God and neither are we estranged from him or His God.
We are in the world as among strangers.Strangers voices stridently offer their poison wares.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 15 2009,12:41) Hi BD,
He was not estranged from his God and neither are we estranged from him or His God.
We are in the world as among strangers.Strangers voices stridently offer their poison wares.
Yet,The Quran doesn't teach a strange doctrine that's why you should hear the familiar voice in the Quran.
You agree with the Quran the trinitarians do not.
Hi BD,
You cannot add to the words of the Lord Jesus without risking your most important relationships[2Jn9]Quote (bodhitharta @ May 15 2009,12:04) Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 14 2009,19:26) Hi BD,
So you are yet a stranger seeking protection in the darkness?
The door of Jesus remains open.
Come in
Jesus called himself a stranger. Do you still belong to this world Nick?The world knew him not.
If you submit to God you are by definition a Muslim but to you it is only the word “Muslim” that bothers you not the fact that you Submit to God.
Always let the truth triumph over your ego.
Hi BD,
So to submit to God do you submit to the complete authority of the Lord of all, Jesus Christ and his teachings?He never mentioned a prophet coming 500 years later with new teachings.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 15 2009,13:52) Quote (bodhitharta @ May 15 2009,12:04) Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 14 2009,19:26) Hi BD,
So you are yet a stranger seeking protection in the darkness?
The door of Jesus remains open.
Come in
Jesus called himself a stranger. Do you still belong to this world Nick?The world knew him not.
If you submit to God you are by definition a Muslim but to you it is only the word “Muslim” that bothers you not the fact that you Submit to God.
Always let the truth triumph over your ego.
Hi BD,
So to submit to God do you submit to the complete authority of the Lord of all, Jesus Christ and his teachings?He never mentioned a prophet coming 500 years later with new teachings.
Can you show me a direct revelation of the coming of Jesus and the time he would come?Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 15 2009,14:29) Hi BD,
Can you not?
Do you not have faith in the scriptures?
I cannot nor can you because we both have faith in the scriptures and likewise I hear the voice of Christ in the Quran.We are both Muslim
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 15 2009,14:37) Hi BD,
To each their own.
May God bless you Always! and Peace be upon you!Quote (bodhitharta @ May 15 2009,14:36) Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 15 2009,14:29) Hi BD,
Can you not?
Do you not have faith in the scriptures?
I cannot nor can you because we both have faith in the scriptures and likewise I hear the voice of Christ in the Quran.We are both Muslim
Hi BD,
So you follow Jesus Christ?
Or do you love the scriptures and strain for hopeful echoes in your book?Should you try to serve two masters?
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