Is trinity belief necessary for salvation?

[NickHassan]

Hi R,
Good.
So the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God was born of the Spirit of God.

We follow him.

[NickHassan]

Hi R,
So if he was born of the Spirit of God he was not already part of that God before that was he?

[karmarie]

Quote (glad tidings @ Aug. 18 2009,09:14)

To all: I was wondering if belief in the trinity was necessary for salvation?  I've never read in the book of Acts where anybody said that you must believe Jesus to be God in order to be saved.  In fact, I don't read the words “three persons”, or concepts like:  “hypostatic union”,  “essence” etc., anywhere. I do read “repent, and be baptized…in the name of Jesus Christ [Messiah].”  “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ., etc” Personally speaking, when I was converted at the age of 12, I didn't know what the word “trinity” meant , neither was  this concept spoken about where I had the conversion experience; but I do know this:  I was taught he is Lord and Savior – I did know what Lord [master] meant – and that seemed to be good enough because from that time onward, my life changed drastically.  Any thoughts???

Hi GT

I havent read all this thread so forgive me, but I also agree wit you, and the way I think I see it is like you pointed out the bible says,

We accept Jesus as the son of God , get baptised and obey his commandments, and do the best we can to help others, give to people, humble ourselves into submission, think about God, admire Gods creation ad respect it, pray, and find a way of sharing it with others, and I think God will reveal the truth to us if nessesary and when we are ready.

blessings

[karmarie]

Quote (Jodi Lee @ Aug. 19 2009,08:54)

Hi glad tidings, Jesus was a righteous man because the Spirit of God was working in him giving him wisdom and truth, thus providing him with the necessary influence to bring him great faith in God. The Spirit of God is not something that we choose, it chooses us and is given unto us at a specific time designated by our heavenly Father, who's will is for all men to be saved. What is necessary for salvation is God's Spirit, and God promises to give it to ALL men in due time!!  The Sons of God mentioned in the bible of whom the whole creation groans for the revealing of, are those children who are the firstfruits. They are the first but not the last to receive the Spirit of our Heavenly Father. They are those that along with Christ will be leaders with the purpose of delivering the rest of God's Spirit to mankind, so that God will be ALL in ALL.

Hi Jodi, great post! That puts it so well and theres so much truth in what you said.

Blessings.

[NickHassan]

Hi,
If you were ignorant and read the bible for the first time would you find a trinity God?
If you do commit to such beliefs you will become confused and isolated from God.
Of course you will have plenty of such likeminded friends and will never be alone.

[karmarie]

Quote (RokkaMan @ Sep. 01 2009,12:42)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 01 2009,12:27) Hi R, So he is not really the Son of God? He is, He is The Son of Man…being born of a human woman. The Son of God, being born of God The Father's Spirit… Pre-existing as The Word of God…he was always with The Father and already his Son. Mankind did not know that, so that is why after his birth it was a big thing to know he was The only begotten Son of God. Seriously Nick, when will you ask a difficult question…it's as if, you ask, we answer, you ask, we answer…and it never ends…

You know RokM I sort of get you here, is this one-ness belief or something else? Do you go to a church?

karmarie

[Proclaimer]

Take the Trinity Test.

https://heavennet.net/writings/trinity-11.htm

[Cindy]

Quote (RokkaMan @ Aug. 29 2009,07:40)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 28 2009,07:59) Hi R, God is in Jesus, His Son. Adding justifications to the works of men increases the problem. I'm not justifying the works of men, I'm understanding who Jesus is… So far what I understand from an anti-trinitarian view is that… Jesus was a man that was born from a virgin. Which Means he was an ordinary man born of a miracle birth that has never trully happened anywhere else but apparently is insignificant because he was afterall an ordinary man. This was the only man to come into existence and not sin, because God The Father chose to live inside him. Because he lived inside him, he did not sin, and died on the cross (when he shouldn't of died because he was sinless). We now can be forgiven for our sins, because we believe that a sinless man died for us. But he was only sinless because the Father chose to dwell inside of him. Ok, then my question is this….If God sees us as sinning as such a problem, why doesn't he choose to live inside of all of us the same way he did Jesus? That way non of us would be sinners, and we can all skip the crap that comes with life? Apparently God gave Jesus free will, so living inside of us wouldn't interfere with the free will concept.

If you justifying the man who came up with the trinity, then don/t believe in it!!! If you do then you believe that first the Holy Spirit is a Person and all three are equal, that is the trinity. I and others here do not believe in it. Jesus is the Son of God and the Spirit is the Fathers Soirit, that He gives to us at Baptism. In order to understand the things of God, we need to have God's Holy Spirit. That will unite us all to our Savior Jesus Christ and our Heavenly Father.
Peace and Love Irene

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