Is the bible THAT special?Deu 10:17 For the LORD

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  • #159311
    Towshab
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    From the Christian GT & OT


    Act 10:34 So Peter opened his mouth and said: “Truly I understand that God shows no partiality,
    Act 10:35 but in every nation anyone who fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him.

    Rom 2:11 For God shows no partiality.

    Gal 2:6 And from those who seemed to be influential (what they were makes no difference to me; God shows no partiality)–those, I say, who seemed influential added nothing to me.

    Deu 10:17 For the LORD your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God, who is not partial and takes no bribe.


    Do you really think that the ones who wrote the scriptures had a greater understanding of G-d than anyone else? Why do you accept their authority over that of your own heart and mind?

    #159312
    Towshab
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    Ooops, messed something up :O.

    #159313
    Son of Light
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    Quote (Towshab @ Jan. 17 2008,13:03)
    From the Christian GT & OT


    Act 10:34  So Peter opened his mouth and said: “Truly I understand that God shows no partiality,
    Act 10:35  but in every nation anyone who fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him.

    Rom 2:11  For God shows no partiality.

    Gal 2:6  And from those who seemed to be influential (what they were makes no difference to me; God shows no partiality)–those, I say, who seemed influential added nothing to me.

    Deu 10:17  For the LORD your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God, who is not partial and takes no bribe.


    Do you really think that the ones who wrote the scriptures had a greater understanding of G-d than anyone else? Why do you accept their authority over that of your own heart and mind?


    dont forget where Paul says that even the gentiles and barbarians who have never heard the Law have a law written on there hearts.

    And some who live by that fleshy tablet on the inside of them will have that in there defense when judgement comes. As it both excuses and accuses them on that day.

    #159314
    NickHassan
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    Quote (Towshab @ Jan. 17 2008,13:03)
    From the Christian GT & OT


    Act 10:34  So Peter opened his mouth and said: “Truly I understand that God shows no partiality,
    Act 10:35  but in every nation anyone who fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him.

    Rom 2:11  For God shows no partiality.

    Gal 2:6  And from those who seemed to be influential (what they were makes no difference to me; God shows no partiality)–those, I say, who seemed influential added nothing to me.

    Deu 10:17  For the LORD your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God, who is not partial and takes no bribe.


    Do you really think that the ones who wrote the scriptures had a greater understanding of G-d than anyone else? Why do you accept their authority over that of your own heart and mind?


    Hi Tow,
    It shows your ignorance of the power of God in using men.

    Deep knowledge and education is not required for God's servants.

    My strength shows up best in weak vessels.

    #159315
    Towshab
    Participant

    Your strength? Are you a usurper like Paul?

    #159316
    NickHassan
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    Hi Tow,
    You will know the quote.
    Paul usurped nothing but Christ was working through him as he does through us in him.
    “I can do all things through Him who strengthens me”

    #159317
    Towshab
    Participant

    Yet Paul called it “my gospel”.

    Are we now at the “Gospel according to Nick”?

    #159318
    NickHassan
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    Hi tow,
    God used Paul and uses us.
    But the good news is God's message and we are only the messengers.
    Don't shoot.

    #159319
    Towshab
    Participant

    But why is your message different from WJ's? Are you saying WJ is a false messenger?

    #159320
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi tow,
    Yes

    #159321
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi tow,
    Matthew 22:29
    Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.

    #159322
    Towshab
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 16 2008,21:13)
    Hi tow,
    Matthew 22:29
    Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.


    It does not say “not knowing the scriptures which IS the power of G-d” does it? And are the scriptures of today the same that Jesus held as scripture? There are occasions when he calls on a prophecy that is not existing in the Hebrew Tanakh.

    #159323
    Towshab
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 16 2008,21:04)
    Hi tow,
    Yes


    How utterly sad. WJ seems to be very devout and you have the audacity to judge him. That makes him and Billy Graham. At this point, are to to say that you, Nick Hassan, are holder of all truth?

    #159324
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi tow,
    WJ preaches another human doctrine that is not taught in scripture.
    That makes him a false teacher by scriptural standards.
    He should not do so but old habits die hard.
    We are not one-no secrets there.
    We oppose his false work
    as servants should.

    Should you judge since you oppose God too?

    #159325
    seekingtruth
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    Quote (Towshab @ Jan. 17 2008,08:03)
    From the Christian GT & OT


    Act 10:34  So Peter opened his mouth and said: “Truly I understand that God shows no partiality,
    Act 10:35  but in every nation anyone who fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him.

    Rom 2:11  For God shows no partiality.

    Gal 2:6  And from those who seemed to be influential (what they were makes no difference to me; God shows no partiality)–those, I say, who seemed influential added nothing to me.

    Deu 10:17  For the LORD your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God, who is not partial and takes no bribe.


    Do you really think that the ones who wrote the scriptures had a greater understanding of G-d than anyone else? Why do you accept their authority over that of your own heart and mind?

    1 Corinthians 2:12-14
    12We have not received the spirit of the world but the Spirit who is from God, that we may understand what God has freely given us. 13This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words. 14The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.

    Neither our heart or mind can be trusted, but the Spirit of God will guide us into all truth.

    Just to be clear I do not believe that one individual obtains all truth, but we as a body of believers have all truth available to us.

    I also believe we will be held responsible for the truth we possess and answer for the truth we reject.

    Wm

    #159326
    Is 1:18
    Participant

    Quote (seekingtruth @ Jan. 17 2008,16:12)
    1 Corinthians 2:12-14
    12We have not received the spirit of the world but the Spirit who is from God, that we may understand what God has freely given us. 13This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words. 14The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.

    Neither our heart or mind can be trusted, but the Spirit of God will guide us into all truth.

    Just to be clear I do not believe that one individual obtains all truth, but we as a body of believers have all truth available to us.

    I also believe we will be held responsible for the truth we possess and answer for the truth we reject.

    Wm


    Well put ST, you're such a fountain of wisdom sometimes.

    #159327
    Towshab
    Participant

    Quote (seekingtruth @ Jan. 16 2008,23:12)

    Quote (Towshab @ Jan. 17 2008,08:03)
    From the Christian GT & OT


    Act 10:34 So Peter opened his mouth and said: “Truly I understand that God shows no partiality,
    Act 10:35 but in every nation anyone who fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him.

    Rom 2:11 For God shows no partiality.

    Gal 2:6 And from those who seemed to be influential (what they were makes no difference to me; God shows no partiality)–those, I say, who seemed influential added nothing to me.

    Deu 10:17 For the LORD your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God, who is not partial and takes no bribe.


    Do you really think that the ones who wrote the scriptures had a greater understanding of G-d than anyone else? Why do you accept their authority over that of your own heart and mind?

    1 Corinthians 2:12-14
    12We have not received the spirit of the world but the Spirit who is from God, that we may understand what God has freely given us. 13This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words. 14The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.

    Neither our heart or mind can be trusted, but the Spirit of God will guide us into all truth.

    Just to be clear I do not believe that one individual obtains all truth, but we as a body of believers have all truth available to us.

    I also believe we will be held responsible for the truth we possess and answer for the truth we reject.

    Wm


    Yet ST, just because Paul said this, does that make it reality? In my past as a Christian, I've heard some blatantly false things come from the lips of preachers who said they were led of the spirit. I had one teaching the church that interracial relationships were sinful and he went on to use the bible to try to prove his point. He didn't like me much when I showed him where he was wrong (after the sermon however).

    I then saw as another one preached that women should not work. The next week several quit their jobs. I know of one couple where the dad then had to take on a third job to make ends meet so his wife could stay home. Do you think a father that is never home honors God?

    #159328
    seekingtruth
    Participant

    Towshab,
    I could say that those you heard errors from weren't really “saved” but I cannot make that call. I know I have spoken in error in the past and I probably will again (though God knows I don't want to) and as I stated above I will answer for how I handled the truth I had. You knew those things you heard were false, did you believe this was what God wanted taught?

    You say you were a “christian” in the past if this is so then you experienced truth in your spirit and faith is meant to carry us through those times where our emotions (anger from false teaching or a “brother” who would not listen) are blinding us to that experience. That is why we are told to return to our first love. People who are teaching error will answer for it, we were warned about causing others to stumble. We were also warned that wolves would sneak in and not spare the flock. It is this testing of our faith that helps us to grow.

    I believe we need each other as we will be blind to deceptions in our own life (thus the meaning of “decieved”). Pride gets in our way and effects how we accept, retain, and/or filter truth.

    My opinion – Wm

    #159329
    acertainchap
    Participant

    Quote (seekingtruth @ Jan. 17 2008,22:24)
    My opinion – Wm


    There is nothing wrong with opinion, but could you back up what you said with Scripture?

    I'll help you out, here…

    Colossians 3:12

    Therefore, as God's chosen people, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience.

    2 Corinthians 9:7

    Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.

    Ephesians 4:32
    Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you.

    James 1:27

    Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.

    #159330
    Not3in1
    Participant

    Quote (seekingtruth @ Jan. 17 2008,16:12)
    I also believe we will be held responsible for the truth we possess and answer for the truth we reject.


    If you knew for certain it was truth, would you reject it?

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