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Quote (kerwin @ April 22 2013,01:11) Colter, It is God's job to Judge who is saved and who is not and I am content with that for he is both just and merciful.
The command “go and sin no more” is a loving command but I who live in the flesh am powerless to do it. God and the Anointed Jesus do not leave me powerless to obey that command but instead give power to those who believe God's Word's. That belief is revealed by the action of obeying all Jesus' teachings on obtaining that which teaches sinlessness and being its fruits. Jesus teaches the new covenant, the covenant that was coming but did not arrive until the days of his mortality were done.
I'm a disciple of Jesus and a believer in his original gospel of the “kingdom of heaven” wherein one is saved by faith and if necessary spiritual rebirth.I agree that God is certainly the source of strength in choosing to do his will or retreating back to the baser nature of animal man.
I trust that the kingdom of heaven will eventually cover the earth.
Colter
Quote (Mary @ April 20 2013,16:43) Quote (2besee @ April 20 2013,12:37) Quote (Mary @ April 19 2013,14:46) Body an Being Mary, that was awesome! Thanks for sharing that.
It was, I hope this young girl enjoys her new life an teaches many of insignifcance.
Amen, Mary.
Its is written to OBEY, Pay your Tax, That Tax is being used to Kill other Nations children. That Tax was used to Pay Roman solders to Kill any oposition to STOPING The roman empire from ruling Isreal, That Tax money Help Rome conquer Many Nations an spread its gospal all over the earth.
Is it written to pay your tax?
They were asking: “is it legal TO pay the tribute to”?
They weren't asking if they could not pay it, or if it was lawful to NOT pay it. Being that it had the image of a god (Caesar on it), the “image” of a god, there were some Jews who didn't think it lawful even to use that pagan currency. The question was: is it ok to pay THAT tax?
Jesus answer was basically: if you have the coin and use the coin, then you should pay back to Caesar what is owed. But, for those who didn't feel it was lawful to use that pagan coin, perhaps they felt they had no need to pay it, after what Jesus said.
Quote (david @ April 23 2013,12:29) Is it written to pay your tax? They were asking: “is it legal TO pay the tribute to”?
They weren't asking if they could not pay it, or if it was lawful to NOT pay it. Being that it had the image of a god (Caesar on it), the “image” of a god, there were some Jews who didn't think it lawful even to use that pagan currency. The question was: is it ok to pay THAT tax?
Jesus answer was basically: if you have the coin and use the coin, then you should pay back to Caesar what is owed. But, for those who didn't feel it was lawful to use that pagan coin, perhaps they felt they had no need to pay it, after what Jesus said.
Well i cant extract a coin From the fishes mouth, was jesus unemployed? Dosnt sound like it! They really have handed us signs an wonders to ponder,
He who collects the tax gave us Jesus's word, an its mighty supporting of all their tax system!They make us drink on the spirit while consuming excess spirits!
I wish the hadn't have destroyed Jesus's life, an had Pharisee an doctors write his words.Quote (2besee @ April 14 2013,00:05) t8, that is true
I see your point.Perhaps where it is not right is when other members use the Hotseat for “revenge”, because the poster has not answered their question to their satisfaction, when in fact the person HAS answered the question, just not how THEY want it answered. This happened to me. It seemed more of a battle of their own doctrines rather than a true search for truth, if you understand me.
Agreed. But as it has transpired, I think 3 tiles have ever been handed out because most people that do not answer are not dobbed in and that is fine. Stu refused to answer reasonable questions from me for years, and I never tiled him when I could have.But it got to the point in our conversation that it was either that or just leave all conversations with him because it was absolutely going nowhere and wasting everyone's time. And he got one tile in order to get him to have a reasonable conversation.
Not pointing at you when I say this, but it makes me laugh when I see the fear people have about the potential of being tiled for not answering a question. That fear is completely unfounded. And what is there to fear by answering a question truthfully. How hard is it to type, yes, no, I don't know. And what is so scary about that people. Are you afraid that you might be exposed for something. Where is your faith? Just answering as you see it and if you come up short, you will learn something. That is how it is suppose to work. And how bad is that? It isn't. It is good.
Where is your transparency. Why all the fear. It is one Forum called the Hot Seat. People get placed on there not very often, but in order to get a truthful answer.
And David, Jesus may not have answered a question. So what. He would have answered a good question.
Quote (Mary @ April 23 2013,16:31) They make us drink on the spirit while consuming excess spirits!
I wish the hadn't have destroyed Jesus's life, an had Pharisee an doctors write his words.
Jesus said “Get behind me Satan” to Peter, when he exclaimed that Jesus should not be killed. What do you want me to say about you not wanting Jesus to die for the sins of mankind?Quote (Mary @ April 22 2013,14:03) Its is written to OBEY, Pay your Tax, That Tax is being used to Kill other Nations children. That Tax was used to Pay Roman solders to Kill any oposition to STOPING The roman empire from ruling Isreal, That Tax money Help Rome conquer Many Nations an spread its gospal all over the earth.
Don't use money then. Money is a system. It has rules. You want to use it, then play by the rules. Don't like the outcome, no one is forcing you to use it.Quote (Mary @ April 22 2013,11:03) Its is written to OBEY, Pay your Tax, That Tax is being used to Kill other Nations children. That Tax was used to Pay Roman solders to Kill any oposition to STOPING The roman empire from ruling Isreal, That Tax money Help Rome conquer Many Nations an spread its gospal all over the earth.
Well, it's written to obey the superior authorities.
BUT, it's also written to obey god as ruler rather than man, SO, when one conflicts with the other, you obey God, like the disciples did in the first century, when they REFUSED tomstop speaking about the kingdom of God, despite being ordered to by the authorities.So, you follow the rules unless those rules conflict with gods rules.
As for paying taxes, is it lawful to pay the tax? Is it lawful? Are we allowed to pay the tax? That was the question. Are they allowed to pay that tribute tax?
Quote (t8 @ May 11 2013,01:57) Quote (Mary @ April 23 2013,16:31) They make us drink on the spirit while consuming excess spirits!
I wish the hadn't have destroyed Jesus's life, an had Pharisee an doctors write his words.
Jesus said “Get behind me Satan” to Peter, when he exclaimed that Jesus should not be killed. What do you want me to say about you not wanting Jesus to die for the sins of mankind?
You can prove that Jesus Said That..
It is clear Jesus doesn't dispute those words after he past..an Hope its as clear John said those words t8..AcTUALLY its a double Hit
John
who was in great completion with Peter said that! sore loser. green with envy.Quote (david @ May 11 2013,08:07) Quote (Mary @ April 22 2013,11:03) Its is written to OBEY, Pay your Tax, That Tax is being used to Kill other Nations children. That Tax was used to Pay Roman solders to Kill any oposition to STOPING The roman empire from ruling Isreal, That Tax money Help Rome conquer Many Nations an spread its gospal all over the earth.
Well, it's written to obey the superior authorities.
BUT, it's also written to obey god as ruler rather than man, SO, when one conflicts with the other, you obey God, like the disciples did in the first century, when they REFUSED tomstop speaking about the kingdom of God, despite being ordered to by the authorities.So, you follow the rules unless those rules conflict with gods rules.
As for paying taxes, is it lawful to pay the tax? Is it lawful? Are we allowed to pay the tax? That was the question. Are they allowed to pay that tribute tax?
David,Those authorities were of the religion of Judaism and had authority over the Apostles. Why did the Apostles acknowledge them if they were a new religion?
Quote (kerwin @ May 12 2013,06:32) Quote (david @ May 11 2013,08:07) Quote (Mary @ April 22 2013,11:03) Its is written to OBEY, Pay your Tax, That Tax is being used to Kill other Nations children. That Tax was used to Pay Roman solders to Kill any oposition to STOPING The roman empire from ruling Isreal, That Tax money Help Rome conquer Many Nations an spread its gospal all over the earth.
Well, it's written to obey the superior authorities.
BUT, it's also written to obey god as ruler rather than man, SO, when one conflicts with the other, you obey God, like the disciples did in the first century, when they REFUSED tomstop speaking about the kingdom of God, despite being ordered to by the authorities.So, you follow the rules unless those rules conflict with gods rules.
As for paying taxes, is it lawful to pay the tax? Is it lawful? Are we allowed to pay the tax? That was the question. Are they allowed to pay that tribute tax?
David,Those authorities were of the religion of Judaism and had authority over the Apostles. Why did the Apostles acknowledge them if they were a new religion?
LOL! Jesus told those so called “authorities” that their father was the devil! They still don't realize the truth about Jesus, so they aren't much of an authority on anything other then incurable stubbornness.And sadly, Mush of the Jews confusion was the en- mass editing of the OT books during the captivity. They lost faith in the promise. When they returned to Jerusalem the priest began to use those new books as the word of God, the people once again fell into bondage of ritual and traditionalism.
Colter
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