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Does not learning who God Almighty is including learning what he hates?
If you don't know whether he hates …we'll use WIT's “rape” example….if you don't know that he hates rape or not, then you really don't know God at all.
You may be able to distinguish that he is not his own grandpa or his son, but do you really know his personality, his characteristics, what he loves and what he hates?
When you say: “men need to know who God is,” that includes the fact that God is a lover of righteousness, that he is a jealous God entertaining no rivalry, that he hates lies, etc.
Hi david,
Seek ye FIRST the kingdom of God and HIS righteousness.
Moralism is seeking our own righteouness.
Our righteousness is as filthy rags.Yes, seek first his kingdom and his righteousness. Doesn't that include coming to know what he considers to be “right” and following suit.
You keep speaking of seaking your own righteousness.
I keep discussing what the Bible indicates God considers to be right.
Hi david,
Yousay
“You keep speaking of seaking your own righteousness. “
Where ?
Isaiah 64:6
But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.Quote Where ?
Your post above and most every post where you have the word “moralism.”
As I've said before, why do you keep speaking of seeking our own righteousness?
The topic of this thread is: “Is observing Christmas and Easter ok,” as in, Ok for a Christian who follows Bible standards.If you think the question is irrelevant, why do you keep arguing against me?
If you think that it is relevent, why do you keep sidestepping the actual question?Hi david,
How does one observe Christmas?
How does one celebrate Christmas?
What do these words mean to you?
You cannot but we aware it is going on but what level of involvement is sin to you?
Why are you searching out sins?1Cor 8
” 7Howbeit there is not in every man that knowledge: for some with conscience of the idol unto this hour eat it as a thing offered unto an idol; and their conscience being weak is defiled.8But meat commendeth us not to God: for neither, if we eat, are we the better; neither, if we eat not, are we the worse.
9But take heed lest by any means this liberty of yours become a stumblingblock to them that are weak.
10For if any man see thee which hast knowledge sit at meat in the idol's temple, shall not the conscience of him which is weak be emboldened to eat those things which are offered to idols;
11And through thy knowledge shall the weak brother perish, for whom Christ died?
12But when ye sin so against the brethren, and wound their weak conscience, ye sin against Christ.
13Wherefore, if meat make my brother to offend, I will eat no flesh while the world standeth, lest I make my brother to offend.”
What level of involvement offends your conscience?
This is not meat that has once been offered to idols.
Do these questions seem grey to you?
What harmony is there between Christ and Belial?
(What level of mixing is allowed between Christ and Satan?)Or what portion does a faithful person have with an unbeliever?
And what agreement does God’s temple have with idols?
What fellowship do righteousness and lawlessness have?
Or what sharing does light have with darkness?
God says: Get out from among them.
Hi David,
Syncretism is adding to truth false religious culture or something similar so if we do not get involved in the religion of Christmas is that enough for you?According to Wickipedia.com,
“Syncretism is the attempt to reconcile disparate, even opposing, beliefs and to meld practices of various schools of thought. It is especially associated with the attempt to merge and analogize several originally discrete traditions, especially in the theology and mythology of religion, and thus assert an underlying unity.”
And that is EXACTLY what was done with the pagans and Christ's birth. They took two very opposing schools of thought: (1) False gods are ok, and paganism is ok. (2) There is one true God only that should be worshipped. Mixing this with paganism is wrong. (2 Cor) And they stirred these ideas together.Quote Syncretism is adding to truth false religious culture
That is exactly what Christmas is. The truth is that Christ was born, and not on Dec 25. The false religious culture which has been added are just about every single custom associated with Christmas. You cannot deny that these customs are religious as they are still practiced by neo pagans today.So, taking the “religion of Christmas” as you say and not getting involved with the “religion” of Christmas….which religion are you referring to: the pagan aspects or the fact that people think it's Jesus birthday?
Because if you say you're just celelbrating Jesus birthday, why celebrate it with Satan's world on the day that that world celebrates it, which would seem to promote a false idea, that Jesus was born on that day? And it would also seem to indicate that you support or at least condone paganism, in that Christmas is a mixture of pagan customs and the belief that it is Jesus birth. Why would you want to do this?
The Bible no where conveys the idea in the slightest that one should celebate Jesus' birth. The early disciples didn't. That's why the date was lost. So why get involved at all with something that we don't have to and something that would appear to support syncretism (pure folly) and lies and paganism?
david
Quote so if we do not get involved in the religion of Christmas is that enough for you? What's left? The gross commercialism?
Hi,
David has judged that to have a joyous reunion with family on 25th December is a heinous crime.What do others think?
No. I have done nothing of the sort. If you happen to have an anniversary on that date, or its the date of some family reunion, whatever.
But if you are celebrating Christmas with the rest of the world, or even without the rest of the world, if you are celebrating this pagan, unholy, worldly holiday, even if you try to give it your own spin, doesn't that seem wrong?
Doesn't it?Quote What do others think? Better question: What does the Bible say about mixing true worship with false?
1 CORINTHIANS 10:20-22
“I say that the things which the nations sacrifice they sacrifice to demons, and not to God, and I do not want you to become sharers with the demons. You cannot be drinking the cup of Jehovah and the cup of demons; you cannot be partaking of ‘the table of Jehovah’ and the table of demons. Or ‘are we inciting Jehovah to jealousy’? We are not stronger than he is, are we?”2 CORINTHIANS 6:14-17
“Do not become unevenly yoked with unbelievers. For what fellowship do righteousness and lawlessness have? Or what sharing does light have with darkness? Further, what harmony is there between Christ and Béli·al? Or what portion does a faithful person have with an unbeliever? And what agreement does God’s temple have with idols? For we are a temple of a living God; just as God said: “I shall reside among them and walk among [them], and I shall be their God, and they will be my people.” “‘Therefore get out from among them, and separate yourselves,’ says Jehovah, ‘and quit touching the unclean thing’”; “‘and I will take YOU in.’””Quote (david @ Feb. 10 2007,06:13) No. I have done nothing of the sort. If you happen to have an anniversary on that date, or its the date of some family reunion, whatever. But if you are celebrating Christmas with the rest of the world, or even without the rest of the world, if you are celebrating this pagan, unholy, worldly holiday, even if you try to give it your own spin, doesn't that seem wrong?
Doesn't it?
Hi david,
You have publicly judged me on this matter as a sinner. Can you please back it up?I don't judge. The scriptures I have already quoted above do. By your own words Nick. Nick, you have already spoken of the folly of syncretism.
Please go check any encyclopedia. See if you can find that word in connection with Christmas and the pagan holidays held on the same day.
First post in this thread:
Quote s observing christmas and easter ok? What's your views? Do you hide bunny eggs so your kids can search for them?
Does St.Nick come down your chimney ? Does he leave you and your children gifts in the dead of winter?
Next post, NICK:
Quote Hi eliyah,
Surely you know these are of the whore of Babylon?
So, you understand that the customs associated with Christmas are of “the whore of Babylon.” We wouldn't want to be a part of that, would we?So, because you say this, I take it you don't use any of these customs, the holly, mistletoe, tree, lights, decorations, santa, etc.
So, what do you do on this day? This day that is a lie of Jesus birth? Do you sit around and read the scriptures about Jesus, as though this day had something or anything to do with Christ? Do you always make a point of celebrating in some way on this special day, which has been a special day, way before Christ? What exactly do you do? As Matthew, (qa) has recently said, your answers contain a lot of fluffiness. It's hard to know anything about you.
david
as i said on page 8:
“I implore the 2/3 of people who celebrate Christmas who don't even believe in Jesus and the other 1/3 who do to come out of Babylon the Great.
It started with false gods. It is still celebrated by neo pagans today. The customs and the date are the same. It is only the lie that it is Christ's birth that has been added!”
Quote (david @ Feb. 10 2007,06:26) I don't judge. The scriptures I have already quoted above do. By your own words Nick. Nick, you have already spoken of the folly of syncretism. Please go check any encyclopedia. See if you can find that word in connection with Christmas and the pagan holidays held on the same day.
Hi david,
Please quote me on the charge of syncretism
o nonjudgemental one.
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